Cubs Looking At Several Veteran Starters

[Captain Obvious]

Perhaps the Cubs know something you don't.

I was just being a sarcastic asshole.

 

[Cubsfanforever]

I dont get why they are going after yet another veteran pitcher.I would take a chance on webb but that is it.Vasquez already signed with florida so he is off the market. I would much rather see them go after a young starter like jorge dela rosa or zack grienke.I guess jermey bonderman would not be a bad option if he is healty. I also would like to see guys like chris archer who i think is the next cubs ace, casey coleman, jay jackson get a shot at the rotation.

 

[Jntg4]

I dont get why they are going after yet another veteran pitcher.I would take a chance on webb but that is it.Vasquez already signed with florida so he is off the market. I would much rather see them go after a young starter like jorge dela rosa or zack grienke.I guess jermey bonderman would not be a bad option if he is healty. I also would like to see guys like chris archer who i think is the next cubs ace, casey coleman, jay jackson get a shot at the rotation.

Forget Jay Jackson. I want Cashner to be in the rotation. If we sign Wood then Cashner would likely be made an SP rather than a Long or Middle Reliever with the SetUp role being shared by Wood and Marshall.

I think if Webb proves to be decent they trade him mid-season with a rotation of Z, Dempst, Cash, Archer, and Coleman.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Forget Jay Jackson. I want Cashner to be in the rotation. If we sign Wood then Cashner would likely be made an SP rather than a Long or Middle Reliever with the SetUp role being shared by Wood and Marshall.

I think if Webb proves to be decent they trade him mid-season with a rotation of Z, Dempst, Cash, Archer, and Coleman.

And Wells and Gorzo just disappear from the face of the earth?

 

[Jntg4]

Bullpen or Trade CO.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Bullpen or Trade CO.

You do not put Wells and Gorzo into the pen or trade them in favor of 2 rookies and Casey Coleman. Maybe Gorzo, but not when Wells is as close to free as it gets.

 

[Jntg4]

You do not put Wells and Gorzo into the pen or trade them in favor of 2 rookies and Casey Coleman. Maybe Gorzo, but not when Wells is as close to free as it gets.

There's 1 rookie and Coleman on that list. And yes I would. You want Archer stuck in the minors I see?

 

[DewsSox79]

You do not put Wells and Gorzo into the pen or trade them in favor of 2 rookies and Casey Coleman. Maybe Gorzo, but not when Wells is as close to free as it gets.

you wont win a World Series with Wells and Gorzo in the rotation. Might as well give the so called "prospects" MLB experience. 2011 should be beta testing.

 

[Jntg4]

you wont win a World Series with Wells and Gorzo in the rotation. Might as well give the so called "prospects" MLB experience. 2011 should be beta testing.

Why do you say so called prospects?

 

[Captain Obvious]

There's 1 rookie and Coleman on that list. And yes I would. You want Archer stuck in the minors I see?

Cashner has never started a game in the bigs, so I considered him a rookie. No, I don't want to see Archer in the minors, but I also don't want to rush him when we have pitchers who are doing a fine job. Still, Casey Coleman! You do not have him over Wells. No chance.

 

[Jntg4]

Cashner has never started a game in the bigs, so I considered him a rookie. No, I don't want to see Archer in the minors, but I also don't want to rush him when we have pitchers who are doing a fine job. Still, Casey Coleman! You do not have him over Wells. No chance.

I sure would.

 

[Captain Obvious]

you wont win a World Series with Wells and Gorzo in the rotation. Might as well give the so called "prospects" MLB experience. 2011 should be beta testing.

I'm fine with giving possibly Gorzo's slot to Archer, but for the love of God, you do not give Wells' spot to Coleman. Wells is a solid 3, Coleman's ceiling is about a 4.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I sure would.

And you're a dumbass. No surprise there.

 

[Jntg4]

I'm fine with giving possibly Gorzo's slot to Archer, but for the love of God, you do not give Wells' spot to Coleman. Wells is a solid 3, Coleman's ceiling is about a 4.

Let's not start debating Randy Wells again, please. Let's just forget this.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Let's not start debating Randy Wells again, please. Let's just forget this.

It's a good debate. Don't be a pussy. Wells is a solid 3 win pitcher. Coleman needs to be in the BP.

 

[Jntg4]

It's a good debate. Don't be a pussy. Wells is a solid 3 win pitcher. Coleman needs to be in the BP.

So Wells is a solid 3 pitcher with a 3.93 FIP. So Coleman and his 4.24 FIP are so bad that they need to be in the bullpen?

The difference isn't that big, definitely not SOLID #3 to Middle Reliever difference. Only using FIP because that's what you use.

 

[Captain Obvious]

So Wells is a solid 3 pitcher with a 3.93 FIP. So Coleman and his 4.24 FIP are so bad that they need to be in the bullpen?

The difference isn't that big, definitely not SOLID #3 to Middle Reliever difference. Only using FIP because that's what you use.

Not true. Look at his K/BB. Take a look at our 5 starters(Z, Demp, Wells, Gorz, Taco). How many of them have FIPs below 4? 0. How many have K/9 rates in the 4's? 0. How many of them have K/BB rates of under 1.5? 0.

 

[Jntg4]

FIP's below 4? Don't you mean none has FIPs over 4 as Wells is 3.93? Or are we looking at different sources with deferring information?

 

[DewsSox79]

:facepalm: really? god dammit! Randy Wells talk again?

 

[Jntg4]

:facepalm: really? god dammit! Randy Wells talk again?

Ya, sorry. I was dumb enough to reply.

To get back on topic:
Who wants Harang to be on the Cubs? Honestly, I do not.