Cubs offseason needs/ Talk

[CSF77]

Madrigal is a slap singles guy with average speed and glove at best. If he hits .350 it will be in Japan.

.350 was for OBA Last year was an exception and injured. He is a .300 hitter.

You have to remember that the shift will be banned next year so we will see a upscaling in BA league wide.

 

[Adipost]

I agree with this. I see it as a fall back plan. I don't see Jed going over 10/300 for any player. If those guys have that coin on the table Jed will go inhouse



That was a signal showing that the Cubs are not all in and are covering themselves.

Now what do I feel about it?

Howard:. Tenn next year
Hernandez: MB next year
Tritantos: SB next year

Cubs have quality IF depth pending. So do they need to go big at SS? Not really.

3B is a other animal. SS Hoerner is a top 10 talent. Mad healthy is a .300/.350 type hitter.

They are not in a bad place right now.

Heading into the roster deadline no team faces the crunch that the Rays do. With a full 40-man roster and nine Top 30 Prospects eligible to be added, the Rays are likely to make a flurry of moves ahead of the deadline. The victim of their own success, the Rays have faced similar roster crunches in recent years, often trading older prospects with forthcoming protection decisions for younger prospects years away from eligibility.

The Rays had to unload some guys at a considerable discount rather than outright losing them. This move was simply Hoyer seeing a good sale he couldn’t refuse and taking advantage of it. I don’t believe this move signals anything and has no bearing on free agency.

 

[JP Hochbaum]

Heading into the roster deadline no team faces the crunch that the Rays do. With a full 40-man roster and nine Top 30 Prospects eligible to be added, the Rays are likely to make a flurry of moves ahead of the deadline. The victim of their own success, the Rays have faced similar roster crunches in recent years, often trading older prospects with forthcoming protection decisions for younger prospects years away from eligibility.

The Rays had to unload some guys at a considerable discount rather than outright losing them. This move was simply Hoyer seeing a good sale he couldn’t refuse and taking advantage of it. I don’t believe this move signals anything and has no bearing on free agency.

Yeah this move had no indication on what the offseason plans are, was just a way to get a good depth guy with options for very cheap.

 

[knoxville7]

Cody Bellinger anyone? Just became a FA. Can play CF and 1B And is a LH bat. Who else in on a short term show me deal?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Cody Bellinger anyone? Just became a FA. Can play CF and 1B And is a LH bat. Who else in on a short term show me deal?

I assume bellinger (as well as most of the league) will get a huge bump from the shift ban too

 

[CSF77]

I just read it. His BABIP was crap. So the shift was a factor. Also he has not looked the same after his shoulder dislocation. But most major injuries take 18M to fully recover and last year was a improvement.

I am not against it. CF and 1B he can play and both need help

 

[Castor76]

I just read it. His BABIP was crap. So the shift was a factor. Also he has not looked the same after his shoulder dislocation. But most major injuries take 18M to fully recover and last year was a improvement.

I am not against it. CF and 1B he can play and both need help

I know it's not what you meant, but when I first saw "take 18M to fully recover" I saw it as 18 million. If the money was right and a short term deal, he could be a nice signing. If he just got back to his rookie and sophomore seasons, he'd be a great addition.

 

[SilenceS]

He was considered a target by the Cubs before he officially got non tendered. I think there is a match here and the type of player Hoyer would take a semi risk on based on timeline.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I know it's not what you meant, but when I first saw "take 18M to fully recover" I saw it as 18 million. If the money was right and a short term deal, he could be a nice signing. If he just got back to his rookie and sophomore seasons, he'd be a great addition.

I actually expect him to get a lot of interest. I don't think he'll be cheap. Sure, cheaper than the 18 mill he was scheduled, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still gets 12-15 on a 3-4 year deal. A team like the cubs probably needs to offer a little extra guarantee on years or $ to get him away from LA and some other bidders

 

[Castor76]

I actually expect him to get a lot of interest. I don't think he'll be cheap. Sure, cheaper than the 18 mill he was scheduled, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still gets 12-15 on a 3-4 year deal. A team like the cubs probably needs to offer a little extra guarantee on years or $ to get him away from LA and some other bidders

I think it will depend on where he thinks he is. IMO, if he thinks he can get back to his early form, then I think he'd want to get a short deal that can get him back into FA so he can get a big deal.

 

[SilenceS]

I think it will depend on where he thinks he is. IMO, if he thinks he can get back to his early form, then I think he'd want to get a short deal that can get him back into FA so he can get a big deal.

He is seeking a 1 year deal. He has turned down multiple years already. He wants a prove it deal thinking his shoulder injury lingered. He is betting on himself

 

[CSF77]

I know it's not what you meant, but when I first saw "take 18M to fully recover" I saw it as 18 million. If the money was right and a short term deal, he could be a nice signing. If he just got back to his rookie and sophomore seasons, he'd be a great addition.

Good catch. I got the opportunity to talk to Steve Finley back when he was in CF for the Pads and I asked him about Kerry Wood's injury and time frames. He was pretty right on saying 18 months. Injuries linger on and hamper play at that level of talent.

 

[CSF77]

I would do it TBH. His CF D is worth it alone. It bridges the gap to Crow-Armstrong. Jed get er dun.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Are the Cubs doing anything?

 

[knoxville7]

Are the Cubs doing anything?

Nobody doing anything lol

Wont be much action till the winter meetings I imagine

 

[JP Hochbaum]

Are the Cubs doing anything?

It is incredibly early still, winter meetings start Sunday and that usually kicks off a flurry of activity.

 

[CSF77]

Padres, Diamondbacks Among Teams Interested In Xander Bogaerts

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[CSF77]

So early info.

Few teams on Contreras. Houston wants him in a LF/C situation. Houston is the fav to win it so that might be his eventual choice.

Mets in on Rodon.

Philly targeting Turner.

Bogarts will not move off SS. SDP and Cubs have talked to Boaras.

So that is the pre-meeting news.

 

[TL1961]

So early info.

Few teams on Contreras. Houston wants him in a LF/C situation. Houston is the fav to win it so that might be his eventual choice.

Mets in on Rodon.

Philly targeting Turner.

Bogarts will not move off SS. SDP and Cubs have talked to Boaras.

So that is the pre-meeting news.

Hmmmm...

Contreras in LF and Boegarts not moving off SS.

Just like someone here suggested and predicted.

You're welcome, folks. I aim to serve.

 

[CSF77]

Recap: Feels Correa and Cubs are best match up. He wants in the spotlight again after his successor won the MVP. Cubs are a iconic franchies and it puts him into the spotlight.

Abreu signed with the Astros. So that one was off.

Kodai Senga makes sense. Has a shoot pitch that most ML hitters have not had to deal with.

So the Cubs have a bunch of holes to fill but targeting Correa, Senga then use the rest of their resources towards plugging holes with short term F/A while waiting for the farm to replace.