Cubs Spring Training Discussion Thread

[beckdawg]

Yet again, truly read these numbers and stop following KB's old, misinformed ass.

http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/2/14/1992424/success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects

Also, people completely miss the new CBA and how much it has truly changed the game. But hey, keep on doing what you do. I believe the old Pat is in there somewhere.

Just wanted to throw in that this "study" is probably on the low end for the simple reason that there wasn't as much available then as there is now. Now you can get the majority of AA+ games on demand AFAIK and even the lower minors are often available to. Also, the amount of stats available has vastly improved. I'm not saying those are the end all be all of prospect evaluation but more data is rarely a bad thing. The amount it is "better" is tough to say however.

 

[KBIB]

Lol, you dont even know the numbers. Also, of course more busted then made it. They are playing in the fucking major leagues not 8 year old first year of kid pitch. The numbers that keep getting stated include pitchers busting. Who is a top prospect of the Cubs thats a pitcher? CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson and there not even that highly rated. They could easily bust but they also arent considered in the same league as Almora, Bryant, and Baez. Edwards could compare to Soler. Then, you are looking at Alcantara, Volgelbach, plus the 4th pick this year, and most likely a top 5 next year. Thats not including some out of nowhere player that almost always comes around.

Yet again, truly read these numbers and stop following KB's old, misinformed ass.

http://www.royalsreview.com/2011/2/14/1992424/success-and-failure-rates-of-top-mlb-prospects

Also, people completely miss the new CBA and how much it has truly changed the game. But hey, keep on doing what you do. I believe the old Pat is in there somewhere.

Edwards is rated the 28th best prospect in all of baseball by BA. Thats higher then Almora and Soler.


Huh?



Crumpet?

 

[SilenceS]

Edwards is rated the 28th best prospect in all of baseball by BA. Thats higher then Almora and Soler.


Huh?



Crumpet?

You know there are more list then just BA, right?

 

[KBIB]

You know there are more list then just BA, right?

Sure. The internet is filled with them. But, considering BBA has been around for decades ill use them basically as the end all be all when it comes to prospect evaluation over some imbecile with six dollars a month to spend and an opinion.

Which means, Edwards is a highly rated pitcher. More thought of as an impact player then Almora and Soler. Which kind of puts a curve ball into your slider type of opinion. I mean, pitcher of the year in the minors, only has given up one home run in his career, gained 17 pounds in the off season....yeah, this guy isnt highly regarded one bit.....smfh




Crumpet?

 

[SilenceS]

Sure. The internet is filled with them. But, considering BBA has been around for decades ill use them basically as the end all be all when it comes to prospect evaluation over some imbecile with six dollars a month to spend and an opinion.

Which means, Edwards is a highly rated pitcher. More thought of as an impact player then Almora and Soler. Which kind of puts a curve ball into your slider type of opinion. I mean, pitcher of the year in the minors, only has given up one home run in his career, gained 17 pounds in the off season....yeah, this guy isnt highly regarded one bit.....smfh




Crumpet?

MLB top 100 list means nothing?

 

[Jntg4]

Sure. The internet is filled with them. But, considering BBA has been around for decades ill use them basically as the end all be all when it comes to prospect evaluation over some imbecile with six dollars a month to spend and an opinion.

Which means, Edwards is a highly rated pitcher. More thought of as an impact player then Almora and Soler. Which kind of puts a curve ball into your slider type of opinion. I mean, pitcher of the year in the minors, only has given up one home run in his career, gained 17 pounds in the off season....yeah, this guy isnt highly regarded one bit.....smfh




Crumpet?

BA w/o Callis is less of an authority now IMO. I like to compare to MLB.com (now that it has him), Baseball Prospectus, ESPN, Minor League Ball, etc. still.

 

[KBIB]

MLB top 100 list means nothing?

Its irrelevant . You stated;

Who is a top prospect of the Cubs thats a pitcher? CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson and there not even that highly rated.

I stated that is false and that Edwards is rated higher then Almora and Soler by the oldest prospecting publication on the entire planet. You put your foot in your mouth. Let it go now because you are riding downhill on a seatless unicycle without any pants on near a bunch of pot holes.


Crumpet?

 

[KBIB]

BA w/o Callis is less of an authority now IMO. I like to compare to MLB.com (now that it has him), Baseball Prospectus, ESPN, Minor League Ball, etc. still.

Callis was kind of a mark for himself on top of being a Cubs homer. BBA is better off without him, imo.


Crumpet?

 

[marines1]

crumpet

 

[SilenceS]

Its irrelevant . You stated;

I stated that is false and that Edwards is rated higher then Almora and Soler by the oldest prospecting publication on the entire planet. You put your foot in your mouth. Let it go now because you are riding downhill on a seatless unicycle without any pants on near a bunch of pot holes.


Crumpet?

So, you are saying that one is better then the other without any evidence. Thank you for dumbness. I didnt know one scout means more then the other. Thanks you for your knowledge. Did you and FirstTimer **** a whore together?

 

[SilenceS]

For the record, Almora is ranked in the top 20 and Edwards is ranked in the top 45. **** me, there is no difference.

 

[KBIB]

So, you are saying that one is better then the other without any evidence.

Evidence at what? Formulating an opinion? What part of "the oldest prospecting publication on the planet" is hard to comprehend and i will try my hardest to dumb down my reply for you to understand with small, one syllable words that fallopian tube filled with stupid semen you call a brain can take in without leaking about in your epic failure pumping tires here in this thread with your vapid opinion. Here, just for you;

YOU say ed ward not good
BBA say good
You silly

There. Better?

Thank you for dumbness. I didnt know one scout means more then the other. Thanks you for your knowledge.

Says the guy using only MLB's top 100 as a gauge? Did you really sign off on a brick wall blocking every lobe in your brain and you now have some sort of personal war brewing between the living neurons?

Did you and FirstTimer **** a whore together?

Well, is your mom still shaving her back hairs or is it ok to come over?


Crumpet?

 

[SilenceS]

Evidence at what? Formulating an opinion? What part of "the oldest prospecting publication on the planet" is hard to comprehend and i will try my hardest to dumb down my reply for you to understand with small, one syllable words that fallopian tube filled with stupid semen you call a brain can take in without leaking about in your epic failure pumping tires here in this thread with your vapid opinion. Here, just for you;

YOU say ed ward not good
BBA say good
You silly

There. Better?


Says the guy using only MLB's top 100 as a gauge? Did you really sign off on a brick wall blocking every lobe in your brain and you now have some sort of personal war brewing between the living neurons?

Well, is your mom still shaving her back hairs or is it ok to come over?


Crumpet?

It's ok to come over. She said it only take two fingers to grab your dick so the work is easier. Also, mlb top 100 isn't a good reference because it's not BA? You want to check out klaw rankings or the 30 other that don't put him not in our top 4. I love guys who don't follow the minors but to try to argue because they are bored fucking their sister/brother. Do you even know why he is rated so differently or do you just talk about one source and cross your fingers to match your cross eyed ass.


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[SilenceS]

Averaged rankings for the top 71 prospects:

Baez 4
Bryant 11
Almora 26
Soler 34
Edwards 55
Alcantara 70

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/2/...ts-byron-buxton-twins-xander-bogaerts-red-sox

 

[SilenceS]

Fisch, if you fingerbanged as many people as you thank bang. You would have one smelly hand!

:marshmallow:

 

[KBIB]

It's ok to come over.

Awesome. At least we are in agreement that your mom is a whore.

She said it only take two fingers to grab your dick so the work is easier.

Two? Damn she really is generous. I would think with those man hands she has I wasnt even a knuckler. But hey, watching Andre the Giant thru out my youth gave me a certain fetish.

Also, mlb top 100 isn't a good reference because it's not BA?

Scroll up, little fella. I think I wrote i consider BBA the end all when it comes to prospecting because they have been doing it for decades. I dont care whose has what opinion other then them. There are hundreds of sites dedicated to prospecting that dont have the pedigree BBA has, MLB's rag tag group of minions included. Again, it is irrelevant since you said nobody had him rated highly. Lets not forget this the next time you try and defend it. The brand which has spend decades producing information about baseball prospects has him rated higher then two of the golden boys in the org. It cannot be debated considering its proven correct. Your opinion, clouded by obvious bandwith, was wrong. Deal with it. Its ok.

You want to check out klaw rankings or the 30 other that don't put him not in our top 4.

And what does that have to do with BBA having him as a better prospect then Almora and Soler? What does that have to do with you stating he isnt a highly rated prospect when he is?

I love guys

Nothing wrong with that.....

who don't follow the minors but to try to argue because they are bored fucking their sister/brother. Do you even know why he is rated so differently or do you just talk about one source and cross your fingers to match your cross eyed ass.

Nothing but hogwash.

You said he wasnt a highly rated prospect. I proved you were wrong and that he was. And even a cross eyed Stevie Wonder with one hand in his sister and brother taking turns mounting each other can see it too.


Now, who is wrong, again?



Crumpet?

 

[SilenceS]

Awesome. At least we are in agreement that your mom is a whore.

Two? Damn she really is generous. I would think with those man hands she has I wasnt even a knuckler. But hey, watching Andre the Giant thru out my youth gave me a certain fetish.

Scroll up, little fella. I think I wrote i consider BBA the end all when it comes to prospecting because they have been doing it for decades. I dont care whose has what opinion other then them. There are hundreds of sites dedicated to prospecting that dont have the pedigree BBA has, MLB's rag tag group of minions included. Again, it is irrelevant since you said nobody had him rated highly. Lets not forget this the next time you try and defend it. The brand which has spend decades producing information about baseball prospects has him rated higher then two of the golden boys in the org. It cannot be debated considering its proven correct. Your opinion, clouded by obvious bandwith, was wrong. Deal with it. Its ok.

And what does that have to do with BBA having him as a better prospect then Almora and Soler? What does that have to do with you stating he isnt a highly rated prospect when he is?

Nothing wrong with that.....

Nothing but hogwash.

You said he wasnt a highly rated prospect. I proved you were wrong and that he was. And even a cross eyed Stevie Wonder with one hand in his sister and brother taking turns mounting each other can see it too.


Now, who is wrong, again?



Crumpet?

I see you ignored the average rankings post. I didnt know an average ranking in the 50's made him as highly rated as Baez, Bryant, Almora, and Soler. You sir, are a mongoloid of epic proportions. Now, go play dungeons and dragons little fella

 

[KBIB]

I see you ignored the average rankings post. I didnt know an average ranking in the 50's made him as highly rated as Baez, Bryant, Almora, and Soler. You sir, are a mongoloid of epic proportions. Now, go play dungeons and dragons little fella

What does "average ranking" mean when BBA has him rated higher then Almora and Soler?

You said;

CJ Edwards and Pierce Johnson and there not even that highly rated.

But;
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2014-baseball-america-top-100-prospects-free/

Says you are back peddling right now on your very own words.

Seriously, how does that feel? Or should I pull out my eight sided dice?


Crumpet?

 

[SilenceS]

What does "average ranking" mean when BBA has him rated higher then Almora and Soler?

You said;


But;
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2014-baseball-america-top-100-prospects-free/

Says you are back peddling right now on your very own words.

Seriously, how does that feel? Or should I pull out my eight sided dice?


Crumpet?

Im back pedaling because I use all scouts and not just one source which you were bitching about earlier? **** me, you are the biggest Mongoloid on here and thats saying something. Did you even read the article? Or are you that big of a fucktard?

 

[KBIB]

Im back pedaling because I use all scouts and not just one source which you were bitching about earlier? **** me, you are the biggest Mongoloid on here and thats saying something. Did you even read the article? Or are you that big of a fucktard?

If you used all scouts, you would have known BBA had him so highly rated, right?



Crumpet?