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x-ray of what?
x-ray of what?
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Because of where the break was, that's why! It was a really serious thing that happened to BU and there was no playing with that injury.
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Only when they say good things about Cutler
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I was saying it to be stupid like the person I quoted, not actually questioning it. "Alleged injuries" now.... What a joke.
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Just clearing things up as that wasn't the case at all with BU although you alluded to it.
JC, well there is real no proof like that, so that's why there is speculation.
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The people who are saying he is faking an injury are dumb. If you are in that group I'd be disappointed.
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I've never said a word about any of his injuries. but I will say there is a trend here.
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What trend would that be? The only connection I can see is he has really bad luck.
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Yup, they guy is cursed, what could have been!
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With injuries, yes. None of his injuries are recurring ones besides concussions.
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The trend of weird circumstances surrounding some of his injuries (the thumb and concussions are legit).
You can't deny that the he MCL, the groin, and this hammy don't raise some eyebrows.
Philip Rivers played an entire AFC Championship game on a torn ACL yet Cutler taps out after an embarrassing 6-14, 80 yards and an INT 1st half with a sprained MCL that apparently required no ice and just sat on the bench sulking and pouting. Weird but whatever we can let that slide I guess...
Then you have the groin pull after yet another terrible start (3-8, 28 yards, and an INT) that had him writhing on the cart like it tore off the bone yet it somehow was fine enough to play on 3 weeks later. Perhaps it was legit but it's just a bit funny how he's suddenly able to play after McCown leads a big win over the Packers. Then he makes an excuse about his ankle being an issue that supposedly compounded his groin injury during his poor showing in Det and yet the xrays for that turn up negative. Again just odd but ok we'll let that slide too...
And now you have this hammy which he somehow hurt running 10 feet to make a tackle. So much for being in "football shape" eh. Just gets up and walks straight into the locker room despite no noticeable limp with his head hung low after yet another embarrassing pick 6. Then for some odd reason spends the rest of the game in the locker room. Tony Romo breaks his collarbone and is back out on the sideline cheering and helping his team mates and yet Cutler remained in the locker room with a sore hammy that his own coach called “not really severe”.
Ok one weird injury is a fluke, twice is bad luck, but three times now, sorry but that's a trend.
I'm not going to say he's full of shit as I'm sure he legitimately hurt his knee, groin, and hammy, but after all these situations it becomes very hard to not at the very least question the way each was handled and the severity of them considering other players have played with similar situations. At the very least it makes you question his mental toughness, what kind of commitment his has to the game, and whether he's truly willing to go that extra mile for his teammates. I mean really he couldn't of gutted out a sore hammy?!?
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First you blame him for coming back quick within 3 weeks when "it appeared severe". Then you blame him for missing time at all when it "was running 10 yards." Seems like you are blaming him no matter what. Are you blaming Rose for all his injuries? Or is that just bad luck? What about Grant Hill? What about Tracy McGrady? Football only you say? What about Mike Brown?
I agree that it was weird that Cutler didn't return to the sideline. BUT, that was not his decision. I heard that it was Fox's.
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The question is why would he come back that quickly if the groin injury was as severe as he made it out to be writhing around on the cart like it was tore off the bone? I've pulled my groin before, if it was truly that bad where he's rolling on the ground in agony there's no fucking way the doctors would of cleared him to play in 3 weeks. If the docs cleared him to play in 3 weeks then obviously the severity of the pull wasn't as major as he made it out to be.
I'm not blaming him for anything, just speculating on the odd circumstances surrounding these particular injuries. The hammy just seems like yet another convenient opportunity for him to extract himself from a situation that's not going his way anymore. He didn't appear to be hobbled by any sort of leg injury as he walked off the field... His own coach said it "not really severe" which naturally begs the question of whether he could of gutted it out or not. He was actually playing well in that game prior to the pick 6, so why would he be so quick to throw in the towl? You can't tell me this isn't the least bit fishy.
Not sure what your point is here. Those players you listed are injury prone, clearly so is Cutler.
What we're questioning here is his mental toughness and the true severity of these particular injuries and whether or not he could of played thru them or if he used them as an easy way out of situations that weren't going his way.
Was it though? Or is Fox just being a good coach and keeping things in house and not throwing his QB under the bus? Impossible to say for sure, which is why we're speculating here. Sorry if this speculation hurts your delicate, overly sensitive feelings regarding Cutler.
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So because there was no medical evidence for you to see a tear, you are skeptical? Ok I guess on the packers game be skeptical, but we all watched him limp around on the field against Detroit after trestman let him come back too early, you really think that one of fishy? As for this year, oh all his bad games, why this one? He was playing very well prior to the int. Just don't make sense to me. As for playing through it, that is probably not up to him alone. Fox may have told him no, that could be why he came back on the field prior to going back in the locker room. We can never really be sure, but I don't understand the thought process. All the hits he has taken on the field, the trucking dbs for yards and a preseason game, yet feign an injury when things go bad? He has had many bad games that he finished, and these ones that he got hurt in were not even his worst ones. Just don't make any sense to me.
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Broc, your entire theory is based on speculation. With Rose atleast, there has been some rumblings about his desire to play that have leaked. We have never seen that leak out from inside the locker room regarding Cutler. All we know is that he was voted team captain by every player on the team. You would think that by now, if he faked injuries or was not tough, he wouldn't get the player support.
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IMO, with the Detroit game in 2013, Cutler wanted to play because he saw blood after they had just beaten the Packers and Rodgers went down. He was not ready to come back clearly, but his toughness convinced Trestman to start him. It was Trestman who was the idiot to play him when he clearly wasn't ready.
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That's how I saw it. The announcers were even mentioning it. It's just weird to me that fans will question the severity of an athletes injury, yet call in sick to work on a Monday with a tummy ache. Crazy.
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There are plenty of reasons to not like Cutler but everything you just said was completely idiotic, wild speculation or just plain wrong.
You get way to emotional when talking about Cutler and you're really grasping at straws here. Mick and FirstTimer do a good job of stating his criticisms without having to reach into the conspiracy basket. This is why nobody takes you serious.
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No fucking shit sherlock. What gave it away, my statement that I'm speculating here?!? Is that not allowed on the internet anymore?! Do I need to break into Halas Hall and steal Cutler's medical files before I'm allowed to form any opinions or speculate about any of it? Good fucking lord get the sand out of your vagina.
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guys, after this season, can we heal together?