DeShaun Watson - Crunching the Numbers

[Spitta Andretti]

The Bears can’t afford Watson because of the Foles contract.

Foles only costs 6.5 million next season. What are you talking about?

 

[remydat]

i dont find him making noise in the media will be significant, when I say significant I'm talking about antonio brown levels of noise in the media. My memory could be off but I remember Mcdaniels not deeming cutler a fit and tried to trade him without even talking to him and letting him find out via social media, after that he was undermining the team. The other difference here is that while mcdaniels had crazy level of power with Denver, with the texans I dont see NC being given the kind of power to just trade their franchise star without Mcnair's blessing.

Yeah like I said, time will tell who is right. The first step is to wait and see how pissed he is.

Foles only costs 6.5 million next season. What are you talking about?

He is salty because I said we should not sign 4M because he is not the future. He is then pretending my issue was the fact we couldnt afford 4M because of Foles when my issue was 4M sucks and I could use the money wasted on him to actually sign someone good. He doesnt grasp that spending money to get Watson is infinitely better than wasting it on a QB that couldnt hokd Watson's jock strap.

4M nuthuggers tend to hold grudges.

 

[remydat]

I'll entertain the Watson talk, but if Watson has any say in a trade destination, I'm sure Chicago is near the bottom.

The reason he is largely frustrated with Houston is because of the disrespect he feels from management. So if that's the case why would he want to come here?.He has openly stated in the past that he felt it was disrespectful the Bears never even met with him or showed any sort of interest in the pred draft process. Even going as far as to insinuate our management may be racist.

But in the end, he probably has none to little say. But we would have to bend over backwards to amend the wrongs of the past.

Ok fire Pace then. That was easy.

You sold me a bit. He definitely would astronomically make the Bears better. I might not be as high on the defense without Pagano as you, but atleast we have a legit chance with Watson.

Did you hear the Texans press conference when they brought in the new GM? It was a shit show. McNair was comparing Caserio to building a wall LMAO. Both of them refused to say they would not trade Watson when asked multiple times. Just said the run of the mill crap you would probably hear a new GM say about Trubisky.

Yeah made me feel that this could hapoen even more.

 

[remydat]

Ok all in on Watson please. I would rather spend 3 firsts on Watson than 2 firsts trading up for an unknown QB prospect not named Lawrence or Fields.

 

[Briggs is GOAT]

Eh, the reality is Watson is largely already a finished product and excelled under a worse coach in BOB. So I give zero fucks about Nagy in this scenario. If he is available, you absolutely have to fucking do this. Bears are a Super Bowl contender with Watson IMO as he not only helps the O but he would completely re-energize the D IMO especially if we keep Fuller and Hicks.

- Trade for Watson and resign ARob, O is good to go with Watson/Monty/ARob/Mooney/Kmet.

- Use whatever draft-capital you've got on the D.

- Become a perennial playoff team.

We really do have good talent on offense, just missing the QB. There's also a lack of depth at WR, but that's ok, you won't be perfect. With Watson the Bears would be division contenders and a definite WC team each year.

 

[Leomaz]

REMEMBER HE HAS A NO TRADE CLAUSE......
DeShaun Watson wants no part of coming to Chicago.....none.

 

[remydat]

REMBER HE HAS A NO TRADE CLAUSE......
DeShaun Watson wants no part of coming to Chicago.....none.

When did you speak to DeShaun?

 

[Leomaz]

When did you speak to DeShaun?

2 days ago. His girlfriend is my aunts husbands cousin.....

 

[PrideisBears]

REMBER HE HAS A NO TRADE CLAUSE......
DeShaun Watson wants no part of coming to Chicago.....none.

Why do you say that?

 

[Leomaz]

Why do you say that?

Just my opinion sort of.

With all things being equal why would you make a lateral move just to move?
The income taxes are higher in Illinois
He is settled in Texas...I assume
He is from the south.

change my mind

 

[and 69 others]

Why do you say that?

Because as everyone knows, Ryan Pace is racist

 

[remydat]

Just my opinion sort of.

With all things being equal why would you make a lateral move just to move?
The income taxes are higher in Illinois
He is settled in Texas...I assume
He is from the south.

change my mind

He can still live in Texas in the offseason if he wants as it is less than a 2 hour flight from Chicago.

All things arent equal though. It comes down to who offers more and how bad he wants out.

 

[Leomaz]

He can still live in Texas in the offseason if he wants as it is less than a 2 hour flight from Chicago.

All things arent equal though. It comes down to who offers more and how bad he wants out.

Of course he can.
He knows that.
And why wouldn’t he.
I live in another state then where I work in.
I highly recommend it.
It’s great.
Not sure how the taxes work for NFL PLAYERS but he may then have to pay taxes in both states.
I pay state taxes to 2 states

 

[remydat]

He has to pay taxes in all states he plays games.

 

[Leomaz]

He has to pay taxes in all states he plays games.

So that won’t de a deciding factor except Illinois would be the the highest one I imagine.

do you know when the players contract actually ends after they play out their contract? Like Robinson?
Is it up to the date of franchising?

 

[satchice]

Ok all in on Watson please. I would rather spend 3 firsts on Watson than 2 firsts trading up for an unknown QB prospect not named Lawrence or Fields.

Is that really you best offer? NO way is what I think Texans would say to that.

I think if I am the Texans GM I would be looing for
2021 1st. 2nd, 5th
2022 1st, 2nd
2023 1st, 5th

or

2021 1st, 3rd, 5th
2022 2nd, 3rd
WR Mooney
MLB Smith

EDIT

BTW I really enjoyed the thread, but you need to be more realistic with the offer. Basically, you are saying a top 5 QB in his prime with 4 year left on his contract for only 2 or 3 late 1st? seriously!??

 

[remydat]

I was only listing the number of 1st round picks. There are already reports that Texans want a massive haul. How much they get will depend on numbers of bidders and how Watson behaves.

 

[Nail Polish]

Im not a fan of Watson, but he is better than what we have.

However, it makes no sense to bring him here to work under Nagy.. He will just get ruined.

 

[hckypro19ja]

Just my opinion sort of.

With all things being equal why would you make a lateral move just to move?
The income taxes are higher in Illinois
He is settled in Texas...I assume
He is from the south.

change my mind

Its not a lateral move....alot of people on here said this will be a playoff team if Watson was on it, so itll be an upgrade for him

 

[Leomaz]

Its not a lateral move....alot of people on here said this will be a playoff team if Watson was on it, so itll be an upgrade for him

Well it was a playoff team without him.