Dexter Dilemma

[dennehy]

Cause they'll do it post June-1st. It'll save them a bit on the cap (I think). I say "I think", cause the part I'm not sure about is the void years. Not sure what years those get accelerated to... next year or the year after. Regardless, your point is valid, which is why I'd just pay him a reasonable number to be a rotational guy. Gervon still rotates snaps and there won't be a ton of teams dying to give out monster contracts in June, so he's a solid vet to add at a reasonable cost to provide part time production.

That's fair, but I still don't think it makes sense unless he's really limited. A post June 1 cut would not lower the overall hit, just push some of into 2026. Looks like they would save $2m and then add $13 or so in 26. They will probably also release him early and designate post-June 1, so he can hit the market early.

My overall point is why would the Bears want him as a rotational guy if the 49ers don't? They aren't particularly strong at DT either.

 

[bears51/40]

Dexters never going to be a 4-3 DE, but DTs rotate to the point where one guy only plays about 60% of the available snaps at his position. I think you could comfortably have a stable of Dexter-Nolen-Billings all playing "starter" loads but in more favorable situations to the players skillset- IE you keep Billings off the field on obvious passing downs and do your best to get Dexter off the field on obvious run downs.

The other thing is scheme. Though Allen runs a 4-3 base it is not the same as last year under Flus.

 

[dabears70]

He is the 3tech, so thats saying he needs to be replaced.

Unless you mean a backup 3 tech

Call it backup or say they're splitting time but whoever wins the starting job in TC/Preseason gets the start while the other comes in and gets his time on the field as well.

 

[DefNextYear]

That's fair, but I still don't think it makes sense unless he's really limited. A post June 1 cut would not lower the overall hit, just push some of into 2026. Looks like they would save $2m and then add $13 or so in 26. They will probably also release him early and designate post-June 1, so he can hit the market early.

My overall point is why would the Bears want him as a rotational guy if the 49ers don't? They aren't particularly strong at DT either.

Yea, maybe we don't... but he's not going to get monster money from anyone. He's had a long, relatively very healthy career. I am not sure what his last injury means for his future in terms of reliability, but at least he's not a dude that regularly hits the IR.

I have no idea what the Niners motivations are, but they are probably about to give Purdy a huge deal and I see them as going through a mini reboot as they dump off guys who won't be there in the next 2 years or so. They probably want to clean the books up as much as possible. I'd like to know if it means the void years can be accelerated to 2026. If so, I can see the flexibility advantage of taking that hit in 2026 vs 2027. Otherwise, financially, cutting him is a red flag cause they barely save anything. I don't know if there's offset language in the contract... but if there is, then that's maybe why. Otherwise, as you said, maybe he is totally worthless at this point.

 

[HearshotKDS]

The other thing is scheme. Though Allen runs a 4-3 base it is not the same as last year under Flus.

Yeah, Allen does some cool stuff on 3rd down especially on 3rd and long. Looks like he did almost 50/50 on 4 down and 3 down linemen on 5+ DB personnel in 2024 so there will be a ton of opportunity to move guys around on the DLine.

 

[Xplosive]

That's fair, but I still don't think it makes sense unless he's really limited. A post June 1 cut would not lower the overall hit, just push some of into 2026. Looks like they would save $2m and then add $13 or so in 26. They will probably also release him early and designate post-June 1, so he can hit the market early.

My overall point is why would the Bears want him as a rotational guy if the 49ers don't? They aren't particularly strong at DT either.

GM's make curious decisions all the time, theres no reason to assume he's totally washed and the Bears don't need him based on John Lynch.

He tore his triceps muscle... Is that generally career ending at age 32?

 

[dabears70]

Harrison Graham predicts where he thinks some of the top free agents will sign.

Has Bears signing D.Dalman and Josh Sweat. Has Trey Smith getting re-signed by the Chiefs.

 

[Runruffshod75]

Gervon Dexter was an Eberflus pick, a Deforest Buckner type pass rushing 3-Tech. As a 6'6" 310lbs former basketball player that only did 22 reps on the combine bench press, he lacks the strength to anchor and get stops against the run.

The Bears were #28 against the run in the NFL allowing 4.8 yards per carry. Every team they faced "got off the bus running". As we all know, losing Billings to a torn pectoral muscle only magnified the problem.

So, what solutions should the Bears look for to fix the interior D-Line?
Should Dexter be moved to DE and hope he can develop into a Trey Hendrickson type?
Should the Bears find a big 330lb NT to play next to Dexter to help him play the run?

How would you fix the run defense heading into the off season??

I dont know if I would call it a dilemma. He's just not a dominant 3TECH that you'd scheme an1 GAP 4-3 defense around and nor will he ever Be a Hendrickson type DE.

Dexter should be. 3-4 DE on a team like Pittsburgh. Fans on here want to constantly use pressures to size Dexter up to Carter when NFL OCs are going nuts doubling up and gameplanning around Jalen Carter.

No OC has ever uttered the words we need to gameplan around Gervon Dexter unless they're looking to run the ball right at him

For a guy that's rarely doubled and leaves alot to be desired against the run he should be providing more than the vaunted pressure stat with 5.5 sacks as an every down DT in a 17 game pass happy crapshoot.

On a contending 4-3 defense like Buffalo, San Francisco, or Philadelphia Gervon Dexter is a backup rotational.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

My plan would be to get better players at every position

Punter with the comp pick for Ian?

 

[dennehy]

GM's make curious decisions all the time, theres no reason to assume he's totally washed and the Bears don't need him based on John Lynch.

He tore his triceps muscle... Is that generally career ending at agr 32?

You'd rather assume Lynch is just an idiot and there is no logic to the decision? Because that's the other assumption. There is no economic reason for it. They have lots of cap space.

 

[Xplosive]

You'd rather assume Lynch is just an idiot and there is no logic to the decision? Because that's the other assumption. There is no economic reason for it. They have lots of cap space.

They gain $17M of 2026 cap space by getting rid of him this year, according to the cap calculator

 

[dennehy]

They gain $17M of 2026 cap space by getting rid of him this year, according to the cap calculator

But they would lose that same amount in rollover over from this year.

 

[Toast88]

1. Build your defense around Dexter
2. Profit?

 

[DefNextYear]

They gain $17M of 2026 cap space by getting rid of him this year, according to the cap calculator

He was restructured in December with the plan to release.

The 49ers reduced Hargraves’ base salary from $19.9 million to $2.1 million, dropping Hargraves salary cap number from $28.105 million to $10.305 million in the process. The original cost to cut Hargraves would have been either $24.86 million on the cap or $28.105 million during free agency if using the June 1. This will allow the team to designate Hargraves as a post June 1 release, count for just $10.3 million on the cap during free agency and then have it drop to and have his cap number count for $8.6 million in 2025 if Hargraves is still hurt and defer $17.485 million to 2026.

49ers Restructure Javon Hargrave's Contract | Over the Cap

49ers Restructure Javon Hargrave's Contract | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

 

[bearsfan1977]

This is your angry drunk talking. We only jave 2 starters signed and so there is no reason not to try and get better OL. Why would I sign Shelton if I can get Dalman. Sober up dude.



Good for you but I dont like getting football opinions from angry drunks. Thanks for sharing though.

I think Dalman is massively overrated and will get overpaid. His pass blocking is average at best. Shelton settled in pretty nicely.

I hope they reach out to NOLA about McCoy. A very good vet C who would be under contract for the next 3 years at about 15m per.

 

[Xplosive]

I think Dalman is massively overrated and will get overpaid. His pass blocking is average at best. Shelton settled in pretty nicely.

I hope they reach out to NOLA about McCoy. A very good vet C who would be under contract for the next 3 years at about 15m per.

I know what the analytics say but I went back and watched Dalman's performance against Philly and Was... He did a good job and wasnt getting ragdolled like Shelton. I think he is a solid option.

If McCoy is a good C why would they be trading him, is his backup much better or something?

 

[dennehy]

I know what the analytics say but I went back and watched Dalman's performance against Philly and Was... He did a good job and wasnt getting ragdolled like Shelton. I think he is a solid option.

If McCoy is a good C why would they be trading him, is his backup much better or something?

They should be rebuilding, with negative $51m in cap space and a bad, old, expensive QB. Who knows if they will, though.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Was told Carter didn't have a very impactful game in the Super Bowl.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889880971841048856

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Harrison Graham predicts where he thinks some of the top free agents will sign.

Has Bears signing D.Dalman and Josh Sweat. Has Trey Smith getting re-signed by the Chiefs.

Who in thefuck is Harrison Graham?

 

[Szlachcic]

Was told Carter didn't have a very impactful game in the Super Bowl.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889880971841048856

Yep, that one play was impactful, but it was only one..