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People need to take responsible for their choices. Everyone wants a quick fix. That's why stupid fad diets or cleanses are so en vogue and come and go. It's why people like Aragon have people set 6-12 months goals rather than 12 week goals.

People can also over eat on "healthy" foods. If you're eating 5,000 calories a day regardless of if it comes from salads or Big Macs you;re doing it wrong.

I actually agree people tend to want quick fixes and fad miracle diets, but what does that have to do with cutting all of the processed carbs out of your diet, eating some carbs appropriate to your activity level, and eating a lot of high quality protein sources and fibrous green veggies as well as nuts/fats?

That isn't a fad or a quick fix.....that's a new mode of eating that simply works better for a large portion of the population who has a very specific biochemical response to simple quick burning carbs taken in without lots and lots of protein/fiber...one that causes appetite to shoot through the roof and binging to occur.

I can eat 5k cals in a day quite easily.....tons of whole milk and cereal, chips, baked goods, croissants.....taco bell fare....etc. etc

I wouldn't be able to eat 5k of fillet and sauteed broccoli more than 1-2 days in a row if my life depended on it. You just fill up on that quality protein and fiber.

What can I tell you, that is how a lot of people's bodies simply work.

Will power has nothing to do with it.
 

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The information presented is correct. The problem is people don't have self discipline. I would call that fat by choice.

Big effing Ding!!!!
 

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Will power has nothing to do with it.

what does that have to do with cutting all of the processed carbs out of your diet, eating some carbs appropriate to your activity level, and eating a lot of high quality protein sources and fibrous green veggies as well as nuts/fats?
Will power has everything to do with that.
 

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Will power has everything to do with that.

Uh what.

I don't even think we're disagreeing really in retrospect:

You are telling people to eat less and move more, and I am giving them the tools to make it more efficient and realistic.

Conversations about will power and being "good" or "bad" with your diet is really an aside...

If you eat less than your maintenance, you will lose weight.

If you eat a lot of protein and fibrous veggies you will tend to eat less calories than eating processed high carb shit. For people who have put on a lot of weight during their life, the effect is probably dramatic in many if not most cases.

You should also lift stuff, do some HIIT and make sure to ATG squat.

That's all i'm really saying.
 

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Beer, tacos, cheeseburgers, fries, pizza, etc. That's my diet.
 

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Beer, tacos, cheeseburgers, fries, pizza, etc. That's my diet.

mmmmm I could go for tacos..... when I make tacos at home I eat like 8 tacos for a meal.... not sure if healthy
 

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mmmmm I could go for tacos..... when I make tacos at home I eat like 8 tacos for a meal.... not sure if healthy

I could eat like 4 or 5 mcdonalds breakfast biscuits without blinking an eye. I have never done it because I will only allow myself 2, but the thirst for more is real.
 

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mmmmm I could go for tacos..... when I make tacos at home I eat like 8 tacos for a meal.... not sure if healthy

I did that New Years' eve, but uh, I had a little help.
 

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I could eat like 4 or 5 mcdonalds breakfast biscuits without blinking an eye. I have never done it because I will only allow myself 2, but the thirst for more is real.

You haven't been enormously hungry one day and just gone apeshit on a China Buffet or something?


I used to do that shit all the time post workout.


Probably killed 1200 cals in crab rangoons alone; 3k total or something nuts.

Take the plunge bro....It's January time to bulk and...

Make,

[video=youtube;EzAUyVxJyf0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzAUyVxJyf0[/video]


What good does being super lean do you right now?
 

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You haven't been enormously hungry one day and just gone apeshit on a China Buffet or something?


I used to do that shit all the time post workout.


Probably killed 1200 cals in crab rangoons alone; 3k total or something nuts.

Take the plunge bro....It's January time to bulk and...

Make,

[video=youtube;EzAUyVxJyf0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzAUyVxJyf0[/video]


What good does being super lean do you right now?

Dirty bulk for the win
 

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I don't think people in this thread are acknowledging that there is (or can be anyway) a difference between "eating healthy" and "eating to lose weight".

Clearly the ideas are related, but they aren't the same thing. So if people are arguing over meal composition vs strict calorie intake, they aren't fucking discussing the same topic.

It IS possible to eat shit food and loose weight through calorie reduction.
It IS possible to eat healthy food and get fat as shit.

Fucking both can be true. Its fucking annoying to see people bickering when they aren't even talking about the same thing.
 

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Further, imo most of the time, weight problems come from portion control. In the USA most people eat as a recreational activity. Its a form of entertainment. We have lost or suppressed or natural sense of hunger. Most people aren't eating only to fulfill hunger. Most people are eating, at least some of the time, because its a national pastime.
 

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