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The Eastern Conference is there for the taking and everyone seems to know that but the Bulls FO. Are they just sitting on their hands waiting for the playoffs to start while everyone else is looking to improve or what? The Cavaliers have found a way to add another shooter, another wing defender, and a replacement for Varajao. The Hawks, Wiz, and Raptors are getting healthy and starting to gain chemistry. And still we don't even hear any rumors that the Bulls are trying to find any help.

Stevie Wonder can see that the Bulls need another wing defender to help Jimmy Butler and there are many teams looking to trade assets.

The Celtics Jeff Green certainly would have looked nice on the Bulls, Denver is looking to move Wilson Chandler/Aaron Afflalo.... Iman Shumpert would have been a nice addition to get from Phil Jackson...Corey Brewer would have fit the bill too but he's in Houston now...

The point is this team is too close to being able to win it all to try and stand pat or play it safe. There are moves to be made to improve this team and it would be a damn shame if GarPax fails to do what it takes to bring a championship back to Chicago this year.
 

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GarPax sure did their job when they drafted Derrick Rose (former MVP), Joakim Noah (reigning DPOY), Taj Gibson (finished 2nd in 6th man of the year voting), Jimmy Butler (reigning conference player of the month), and Nikola Mirotic (reigning conference rookie of the month).

Honestly, there is not much that can be done. Arron Afflalo would be really nice, but do you want to give up Taj or Noah to get him right now? I'm not so sure.

Let's see the truth for what it is. If Derrick Rose starts playing anywhere near the level he did a couple of years ago and/or if Joakim Noah regains his quickness and strength in his injured knee, then this team is a serious title contender.
 

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Making moves midseason gets us nowhere closer than we are now. Even if you add another star, you have to go through an adjustment period with that player. If the right offer comes along, then that's different. But the right offers have not come along. Jeff Green, Afflalo midseason, and a number of other guys wont make a lick of difference this year, and by then, we'll have our rookies more comfortable in the NBA. It's like being stuck in the mud, and deciding to rev the engine doesn't help.

Don't buy into hype, then your expectations will closer resemble reality.

Maybe we can completely rebuild, and architect a team like the Atlanta Hawks. LOL, you never know what is going to happen, who gets hurt, and where everything goes. The Knicks just buy big name after big name, and it does nothing for them.
 

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Afflalo or Chandler are not stars and i think will adjust fairly easy (even still plenty of time to get worked in)

i also don't think they would cost much to get either

i definitely think the wing needs to be addressed in some shape or form whether its signing Ray Allen or making a trade...we're just too weak there...can't put our eggs in Doug's basket again especially coming off knee surgery
 

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I don't think we're in need to make a trade. Just get everybody healthy and find your rythm.

Noah has to rest the knee and don't forget that we're missing our best two shooters. When they are back, the zone will open up again for Derrick and Jimmy.


Thibs has to find a way to defend the pick and roll better though.


I think we're still on a good way.
 

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EVERYONE ELSE IS MAKING MOVES Y WE NO MAKE MOVES FIRE EVERYONE TRADE THE TEAM :kermit:
 

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The Eastern Conference is there for the taking and everyone seems to know that but the Bulls FO. Are they just sitting on their hands waiting for the playoffs to start while everyone else is looking to improve or what? The Cavaliers have found a way to add another shooter, another wing defender, and a replacement for Varajao. The Hawks, Wiz, and Raptors are getting healthy and starting to gain chemistry. And still we don't even hear any rumors that the Bulls are trying to find any help.

Stevie Wonder can see that the Bulls need another wing defender to help Jimmy Butler and there are many teams looking to trade assets.

The Celtics Jeff Green certainly would have looked nice on the Bulls, Denver is looking to move Wilson Chandler/Aaron Afflalo.... Iman Shumpert would have been a nice addition to get from Phil Jackson...Corey Brewer would have fit the bill too but he's in Houston now...

The point is this team is too close to being able to win it all to try and stand pat or play it safe. There are moves to be made to improve this team and it would be a damn shame if GarPax fails to do what it takes to bring a championship back to Chicago this year.



I agree 100% and basically posted the same a minute ago on another tread.
 

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i think either Pau or Noah needs to come off the bench.

Go with Noah/Mirotic and Taj/Pau

At least this way you get 1 guy on each rotation that can body a big man and stretch out niko/pau out to the elbow or baseline with noah/taj posting looking for cutters in the lane.

I dont see anyone the bulls could add that would justify giving up draft picks or any of the role players besides snell. I like the roster they have now and think the current roster can get it done. We've seen flashes of what happens when they are all healthy and playing with focus.

Spacing has been a real problem without a solid wing. Bull's back court attacking the rim is a big part of how the team's offense runs as a whole. It opens up easy looks, which we haven't been getting with dunleavy/mcbuckets out.

Defensively, i think noah's health is a real concern, but so is the lack of communication and effort. This has been echoced with multiple players talking about the lack of defensive success can be attributed to lack of communication between players. Read somewhere noah hasn't been communicating as effectively because he's trying to manage the pain in his knee.
 

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Afflalo or Chandler are not stars and i think will adjust fairly easy (even still plenty of time to get worked in)

i also don't think they would cost much to get either

i definitely think the wing needs to be addressed in some shape or form whether its signing Ray Allen or making a trade...we're just too weak there...can't put our eggs in Doug's basket again especially coming off knee surgery

I don't think that they really need another scorer. I think that they need a good defender. The Bulls are getting absolutely killed by the opposition guards and SFs. Butler cannot do it by himself. They will likely have two first round picks next year. They don't need another star, just a good defender.
 

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I don't think that they really need another scorer. I think that they need a good defender. The Bulls are getting absolutely killed by the opposition guards and SFs. Butler cannot do it by himself. They will likely have two first round picks next year. They don't need another star, just a good defender.

Chandler and Afflalo are good defenders

Ray Allen would basically be a bare minimum type move just to add another body to the rotation
 

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Once Mike Dunleavy returns they aren't short. I think you're seeing a dynamic in play missing Dunleavy the same as when Hinrich is injured. It's not that they put up the stats that people on here live by and hone their fantasy GM skills on, they contribute the intangibles winning coaches look for and they don't make as many mistakes. MDJ rotates and plays good help defense, he moves the ball on offense, comes off picks to either get open or draw defenders. If Tony Snell or Mirotic at the 3 could do those things they'd be getting plenty of minutes.

Chandler and Afflalo are new to their teams but they are already ready to trade them? Start thinking about that, young players who have had opportunities to play on several teams, never turned into stars. There are reasons you're missing that they don't find teams that want to keep them around as pieces to build a championship team. Ray Allen is still at home, he knows exactly what any team can afford to pay him and he can see what teams he might fit in on and get some meaningful minutes. Repeating, Ray Allen is still at home. Either he doesn't see a team worth signing with or more teams than you want to admit don't think he can do it anymore.


Or they should rest Noah, Rose and the rest of the team, get scrubs and draft picks and tank.
 

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Chandler has been on the Nugs since 2011 and they traded for Afflalo thinking they would be in playoff contention this year but they aren't due to injuries and i think Shaw still trying to run the triangle

but its nothing wrong with them as players both are solid overall and fit the bill for what we need
 

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The bulls need help from the 3pt line, that's for sure. Either Dunleavy or McDermott has to come in and make a real impact. Otherwise, teams will continue shutting down the paint and watching Butler/Rose struggle. Acquiring Ray Allen would be of minimal risk. But with the slump the bulls are going through, I cannot see how GarPax can make it happen. Other names are either way too expensive or not worth the risk.
 

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The issue that the OP rightly (and correctly) addresses has been discussed ad nauseum. Change is not a popular topic with Bulls fans (or fans of any Chicago based team). They get so caught up with the hero worship that they can't see the necessities of the team.

Truthfully, players like Noah, Taj and Deng should have been moved years ago when they actually had value. With the exception of Taj, it's too late now. That ship has sailed. The Bulls are stuck with these guys for the next 3 or 4 years. After that, the rebuild, which has been delayed for all the excuses homer fans come up with to justify staying pat, will be painfully slow and cruel to a fan base that has sold out tickets for a decade. You get what you ask for, I guess.


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The issue that the OP rightly (and correctly) addresses has been discussed ad nauseum. Change is not a popular topic with Bulls fans (or fans of any Chicago based team). They get so caught up with the hero worship that they can't see the necessities of the team.

Truthfully, players like Noah, Taj and Deng should have been moved years ago when they actually had value. With the exception of Taj, it's too late now. That ship has sailed. The Bulls are stuck with these guys for the next 3 or 4 years. After that, the rebuild, which has been delayed for all the excuses homer fans come up with to justify staying pat, will be painfully slow and cruel to a fan base that has sold out tickets for a decade. You get what you ask for, I guess.


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Signing Pau and Brooks was standing pat. Drafting McDermott was standing pat. Getting Mirotic to come over was standing pat. Got it.

And Noah will be an expiring deal next season. And Taj's salary going forward is totally tradable. Thanks for the riveting contributions! You definitely need to be a part of the Chicago sport think tank.
 

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The issue that the OP rightly (and correctly) addresses has been discussed ad nauseum. Change is not a popular topic with Bulls fans (or fans of any Chicago based team). They get so caught up with the hero worship that they can't see the necessities of the team.

Truthfully, players like Noah, Taj and Deng should have been moved years ago when they actually had value. With the exception of Taj, it's too late now. That ship has sailed. The Bulls are stuck with these guys for the next 3 or 4 years. After that, the rebuild, which has been delayed for all the excuses homer fans come up with to justify staying pat, will be painfully slow and cruel to a fan base that has sold out tickets for a decade. You get what you ask for, I guess.


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Dude, what the hell are you talking about??? The Bulls are still a contender to go to the Finals. You don't need another defensive stopper, you need Derrick Rose to actually play some damn defense. I this shouldawouldacoulda bs is just that...bs.

Give me a break.
 

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I think this team is close enough to championship contender to make a move to get another wing. as long as that move doesn't compromise any of the core players. the guy they theoretically acquire doesn't have to be an all star, just someone who can come in and provide defense along the perimeter and hit the open 3. Dunleavy and McDermott will be coming back, but neither one plays very good defense.
 

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I think this team is close enough to championship contender to make a move to get another wing. as long as that move doesn't compromise any of the core players. the guy they theoretically acquire doesn't have to be an all star, just someone who can come in and provide defense along the perimeter and hit the open 3. Dunleavy and McDermott will be coming back, but neither one plays very good defense.

I agree, I don't think we need to make a major move. It's no coincidence that the struggles have come when our two best shooting wing players are out with injury. Rose's inconsistency and Noah's knee have been magnified cuz of this as well. I really think Thib's is also struggling to find a comfortable bench lineup too.

It's no wonder teams are all of a sudden packing the paint. Thib's need to react to this better, imo. He's tried Snell, Kirk, and now Moore in this role. Personally, I'd like to see more of Moore.

The bottom line is that we have a good month prior to the trade deadline. Dunn and McD should be back by then. The Bulls don't have to panic just yet. This doesn't mean that they don't make a trade, but it's highly unlikely they will.

This is why I like acquiring Allen. He's the best way to add a floor spreader w/o messing with the current lineup. I also realize that Allen is somewhat over the hill. However, this would keep his expectations to a minimum.

The one he'll be able to do is move w/o the ball, and hit the 3. At this point, I'd rather have that than Kirk myself. I believe that Allen could light it up with all the rest he's had. This is just another reason for the Bulls not to make a hasty trade at this point.

And to me, the people that want to trade McD for marginal improvement are crazy. All you have to do is look to tonights game, and what Korver is doing for ATL. If McD can come anywhere close to what Korver is doing, and it will be a great thing for the Bulls.

The Bulls can't give up on that just yet, imo, especially since he's only played 11 minutes in 17 games on an extremely deep lineup.
 

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