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Perhaps. But how many star players you know of are only one handed drivers? You can’t just only drive to your strong side and be a legit star in the league. I literally can’t think of any. He also looks kind of slower than what I would have expected from all the hype. Looks average athletically. Great shooter and stroke though.
Haven't Manu and Harden pretty much made their living off driving mostly left? It's just that pretty much no one can stop them. I mean you can't literally only drive one way 100% of the time, but those two pretty much drive dominant side a vast majority of the time. Same with Tony Parker now that I think of it. You don't necessarily need to be perfectly ambidextrous like Kyrie.
 

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Ok so you have a leg up on me cause I only watched highlight videos. But it seems like literally every drive he takes is to the right. From the vids I watched I never saw him drive left. Huge concern.

Yeah that is a weakness of his right now as well as his athleticism. He has also struggled with going up against bigger, more athletic defenders.

That being said, I'm not really concerned with that. I think he can figure that all out, especially given he's only 19. My only concern would be how he reacts to adversity as I don't know much about him as a person. Johnny Manziel was the man in college and hit it rough in the NFL and couldn't recover. I'd imagine being that great and achieving all those accolades that he has at such a young age would inflate your ego. How he handles adversity would be the only thing I question.
 

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Haven't Manu and Harden pretty much made their living off driving mostly left? It's just that pretty much no one can stop them. I mean you can't literally only drive one way 100% of the time, but those two pretty much drive dominant side a vast majority of the time. Same with Tony Parker now that I think of it. You don't necessarily need to be perfectly ambidextrous like Kyrie.

Harden uses his right hand enough to break ankles even though he keeps going left, so its not really the same as a pure lefty.
 

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Harden uses his right hand enough to break ankles even though he keeps going left, so its not really the same as a pure lefty.
So is the thing with Doncic that he literally never uses his left hand or just that he primarily drives right? Because again, the latter seems to be something that if the player is really good enough, doesn't matter.
 

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http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft


LMAO...

I swear, this site is the worst. But damn they are good with SEO.

In case they update it....


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On one hand, I want MPJ to fall to us; but if he does that probably means the medical for his back didn't check out...
 

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I am not fooled at all concerning Michael Porter. Unless he is in a wheelchair, I am drafting him. Even if he is not winning dunking contests like he used to, 6-10 with handles and 3 point range will always translate. If the Bulls take Trae Young over him, Wendell Carter, Bamba or Mikal Bridges I would be pissed. Kris Dunn is fine.
 

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If the Bulls think they can atract Thompson to the city of Chicago to play the wing and be the shooter, maybe their looking at wings is a smoke screen?

Not that you can have enough anyway, or they wouldn't still acquire two...its still what I expect.

I just am smelling a hard pursuit to make "Clay Thompson" the franchise guy. Dunn-Lavine-Thompson-Markenenen and #8 with Portis/Valentine and others off the bench...

?? for my money, that build has nice balance whether you want to add another stretch wing or go with a defensive center monster. Thompson give you better defense than the majority of wings or three and D guys though. and better shooting percentage, quick release, both more than enough to spread the floor and pair with Markenen on offense.

I guess if I could have any free agent I would be happy to invest in Cousins or Thompson because they change both ends. You could argue that attribute is more important than alot of stats put up around the league. Can you do multiple things? Then you are worth it if you do one thing at a premium. Thompson does two things. Cousins rebounds at a premium, is one of the best post move guys.

I'd take Thompson first but believe either of those guys or both would change our fortunes and be happier in Chicago then they have been other places so far.

We need Thompson more though, because Markenen shares some redundancy with Cousins. Every 3-pointer Cousins takes is one that Thompson or Markenen don't. An older center with a foot problem now...not worth the risk.

Acquire Thompson, trade up to land Porter Jr. Keep a fleet of defensive/rebounding centers for defense and fouls when you play certain teams.

I keep saying Thompson because the White Sox acquired his brother, and I expect he will visit our city soon in his off-season. It seems like part of some master plan to me.

This team has a future if they pick the right free agent, and land Porter Jr. I think they should move alot of draft capital personally to make that happen at #4. Take no chances, pay the #4 price he is worth even more than, and move Valentine or Dunn or Portis and a couple extra picks. Its about fitting that perfect core together.

Porter Jr, Markenen, Thompson/Cousins could be built around, Lavine and Dunn and Portis and other supporting pieces can be found, but of those Lavine is the most "special".

I think the turnaround will be quick, I just need to see more chess out of Hoiberg and less checkers before I believe keeping him for any length of time is the right thing. He is eroding the intelligence of the team and mishandling the locker room.

Whatever lands Thompson, but damn...Walton/Thompson? Is Kerr going to leave? Could he come back?

The Atlanta coach was playing chess and developing young players...I would get that guy if a Thompson connection does not exist.
 

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Given the choice between Boogie and Klay, give me Klay. Thompson/Lavine/Lauri/MPJ is a very good base.

I wouldn't hate parting with Lavine to guarantee MPJ, but I do think he'd be a valuable contributor to a contender and I'd rather keep him if possible. Everyone else on the roster except Lauri should be up for grabs to move up.
 

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I am not fooled at all concerning Michael Porter. Unless he is in a wheelchair, I am drafting him. Even if he is not winning dunking contests like he used to, 6-10 with handles and 3 point range will always translate. If the Bulls take Trae Young over him, Wendell Carter, Bamba or Mikal Bridges I would be pissed. Kris Dunn is fine.

Fine for a lottery team, Dunn is far from fine from anything resembling a starter on a playoff competing team.
 

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Fine for a lottery team, Dunn is far from fine from anything resembling a starter on a playoff competing team.
Nah...you could replace George Hill with Dunn and I think they'd be in the same place lol
 

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Not all young players are NBA ready. Those are just the breaks. Kyle Lowry, Eric Bledsoe, both were in the same boat as Dunn(to their own unique circumstances), both became starting PGs on playoff teams.

PG is not a draft priority. The Bulls are stacked with PG 'potential' and have seen enough flashes from players to ride the storm.
 

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Keita BatesDiop showed up one one sites mock for the Bulls 22nd pick.

I think everyone feels like, in this so-called deep class, the Bulls are going to reach for 2nd rounders with their 22nd pick. LOL


These mocks are pretty comical. Unless we do just Pick Hutchison and call it a day.
 

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Mo Bamba’s 3 quarter court sprint time in his private workout for the Bulls would have tied for the fastest at the combine. It’s also faster than what Westbrook, Wall, Walker, Wade and Harden ran.
 

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Not all young players are NBA ready. Those are just the breaks. Kyle Lowry, Eric Bledsoe, both were in the same boat as Dunn(to their own unique circumstances), both became starting PGs on playoff teams.

PG is not a draft priority. The Bulls are stacked with PG 'potential' and have seen enough flashes from players to ride the storm.

I kind of look at it like what the T Wolves did. I think they got up to 6 point guard picks and they eventually moved them all and settled for Teague after a down year in atlanta.
 

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Worst case scenario: both Bamba and MPJ go before we pick. Chaos ensues. We either try and move up or play it safe. In that case I have no clue what we end up doing.
 

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Not all young players are NBA ready. Those are just the breaks. Kyle Lowry, Eric Bledsoe, both were in the same boat as Dunn(to their own unique circumstances), both became starting PGs on playoff teams.

PG is not a draft priority. The Bulls are stacked with PG 'potential' and have seen enough flashes from players to ride the storm.

Guess I missed those flashes, I think our guards overall are at or near the bottom of the NBA.

And from what I’ve seen, Dunn is not in the same area code as Lowery or Bledsoe.
 

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Guess I missed those flashes, I think our guards overall are at or near the bottom of the NBA.

And from what I’ve seen, Dunn is not in the same area code as Lowery or Bledsoe.

Yes, there were flashes for sure. Especially before Dunn broke his teeth.

Keep in mind the context of what I said. Dunn at this stage in his career is WAAAY better than Lowry or Bledsoe at the same stage.
 

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