Dream Team vs. Modern Teams

[Crystallas]

FG% #'s are all relative to the game moving to a guard-play dominated league, NOT because of difficulty.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

FG% #'s are all relative to the game moving to a guard-play dominated league, NOT because of difficulty.

i didn't make the post...nor do i necessarily condone it

so:shrug:

 

[clonetrooper264]

the depth and defense was ridiculous as well

ewing,robinson,pippen,payton(was he on there?),jordan,stockton(all time leader in steals),olajuwon,etc.

they have a good size advantage and there is so much depth there it's insane...and ya the guys were helped a little by the hand check...but alot of those guys were incredible defenders

while you had bird and magic at the end of their careers, you had guys like robinson,barkley,jordan,pippen,malone,ewing, robinson, and others in their prime

Assuming you're talking about who was on the Dream Team, neither of those guys were, but you're right about all the others.

Just as reference (in case anyone for some reason doesn't know) the players on the Dream Team were

Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Stockton, Malone, Bird, Mullin, Drexler, and Laettner.

Carry on.

 

[clonetrooper264]

FWIW, I think the Dream Team would destroy the modern teams. Sure 1-12 the modern players are more athletic, but that 92 team had some pretty darn good athletes as well (Jordan, Pippen, Drexler, etc). Plus they have a huge big man advantage. Barkley/Malone and Robinson/Ewing are better than pretty much any modern big man that was on recent Olympic teams. Throw in 2 of the best defenders ever in Jordan and Pippen and the wizard of a PG that was Magic Johnson (and this is even after he had been out of the NBA for a year) and offensively, you can't really stand up to this team while defensively, they could hold their own at every position except for PG probably.

The one thing that I will give modern teams is that their PG play is probably much better suited to beating the Dream Team than any other team they played. Since guys like CP3 and DWill are really fast PGs and guarding quick PGs was the Dream Team's only real weakness defensively, I'll give the advantage to the modern teams. However, even then, the defensive prowess of every other player, plus the fact that Stockton was a really good defender himself and Magic wasn't horrible, plus he had his length, I don't think that advantage would amount to that much.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Assuming you're talking about who was on the Dream Team, neither of those guys were, but you're right about all the others.

considering i pulled those out of thin air, not bad...i don't have extensive knowledge of the team other than what is commonly passed around

i know that laettner was obviously the only college guy there

Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Stockton, Malone, Bird, Mullins, Drexler, and Laettner.

Carry on.

could have easily looked that up..but that fact assumes that i actually feel like it

 

[clonetrooper264]

considering i pulled those out of thin air, not bad...i don't have extensive knowledge of the team other than what is commonly passed around

i know that laettner was obviously the only college guy there





could have easily looked that up..but that fact assumes that i actually feel like it

Yeah idk, just thought I'd throw it out there for reference. Now people don't have to look it up (while it remains visible :lol

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

FWIW, I think the Dream Team would destroy the modern teams. Sure 1-12 the modern players are more athletic, but that 92 team had some pretty darn good athletes as well (Jordan, Pippen, Drexler, etc). Plus they have a huge big man advantage. Barkley/Malone and Robinson/Ewing are better than pretty much any modern big man that was on recent Olympic teams. Throw in 2 of the best defenders ever in Jordan and Pippen and the wizard of a PG that was Magic Johnson (and this is even after he had been out of the NBA for a year) and offensively, you can't really stand up to this team while defensively, they could hold their own at every position except for PG probably.

The one thing that I will give modern teams is that their PG play is probably much better suited to beating the Dream Team than any other team they played. Since guys like CP3 and DWill are really fast PGs and guarding quick PGs was the Dream Team's only real weakness defensively, I'll give the advantage to the modern teams. However, even then, the defensive prowess of every other player, plus the fact that Stockton was a really good defender himself and Magic wasn't horrible, plus he had his length, I don't think that advantage would amount to that much.

the biggest advantages i see from the dream team are depth,inside presence, and defense

howard is the only quasi-dominant,classic big man in the league currently by it's term(love,yes, but he is a much different player..more euro)

back in the day you had robinson,ewing,olajuwon,malone(differs a bit from the other 3 however) barkley,etc.


i think the fact that you have 4 elite rebounders and scorers in the post for the dream team is very very tough for any team to handle, especially when you can match that with just howard and maybe lebron out of position

robinson and ewing were incredible shot blockers and defenders and would make like tough for guys with knacks for driving like wade,lebron, and company and make life tough for the other guys in the paint

i think, in that case, the physicality advantage is a bit mitigated, guys like ewing and robinson had more than enough strength to combat players on the 2008(especially robinson..holy shit his arms are chiseled)

the fact that you have guys like stockton,drexler,robinson, and others coming off the bench is a testament to the amount of top to bottom talent the team had

i think the dream team wins by 10....it's probably close for a bit of the game then jordan and company close

i will say that alot of those guys on the team had incredible mentalities, which translated in an interesting way as a unit

those guys could will themselves to completely shut down teams

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Yeah idk, just thought I'd throw it out there for reference. Now people don't have to look it up (while it remains visible :lol

understandable....one of the thing i am not good at is looking transitively through eras

like, i know shit about the '70s

'80s, if i focus on that specifically, is a little easier to tackle

but then you expect me to compare all these eras in a nutshell? no chance...too much to digest, and things such as that huge ass post i posted from TDD are true, but there's so much more context, like the fact that post guys were utilized more back in those eras, which increased FG%

this subject is terribly hard for me to grasp, i can't focus too well on the generalized comparisons

god i love insomnia...i'm wavering between internet ramblings and calvin and hobbes

the tenth anniversary book is the best..because i enjoy patterson's commentary

 

[clonetrooper264]

understandable....one of the thing i am not good at is looking transitively through eras

like, i know shit about the '70s

'80s, if i focus on that specifically, is a little easier to tackle

but then you expect me to compare all these eras in a nutshell? no chance...too much to digest, and things such as that huge ass post i posted from TDD are true, but there's so much more context, like the fact that post guys were utilized more back in those eras, which increased FG%

this subject is terribly hard for me to grasp, i can't focus too well on the generalized comparisons

god i love insomnia...i'm wavering between internet ramblings and calvin and hobbes

the tenth anniversary book is the best..because i enjoy patterson's commentary

I just love Calvin and Hobbes. :hi5: to you.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I didn't even bother replying to this thread because there shouldn't even be a question about how the origional Dream Team would kick the modern teams asses by double figures each game.
Even Helen Keller wouldn't be too deaf, dumb or blind to see and know that.

Bottom line, I'm rolling with Dream Team 1 yesturday, today and tommorow based on the fact that a huge portion of the greatest basketball players and minds in history with supior disceplin together on 1 team was like a team full of basketball gods that were bigger than life.
I also must add that I believe Dream Team 2 would also beat todays version of a Dream Team but that's another story and topic and I don't want to break any forum rules, just saying. :lol:

 

[RC_Skinny22]

How is there even a question? The Dream Team was built with the best players to ever play the game of basketball!

No chance, absolutely no!

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Assuming you're talking about who was on the Dream Team, neither of those guys were, but you're right about all the others.

Just as reference (in case anyone for some reason doesn't know) the players on the Dream Team were

Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Barkley, Robinson, Ewing, Stockton, Malone, Bird, Mullins, Drexler, and Laettner.

Carry on.

Mullins ?

So your telling me there's more than 1 Mullin?

Wow, I never knew. That's new knowledge I have took in thanks to your steadfast wisdom and saved unknown history that baffles even the minds of those who research and write the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Gosh, thanks man.

 

[NCChiFan]

I look at the freakish nature of the original Dream Team, and the roles they all fit within. You had freakish PG's, who actually passed first. You had Power Forwards that actually played Power Foward, not PF's that want to sit out at the arc and hit 3's, and ditto for Centers. Small forwards that could hit 3's and pass. Best 2 to ever play the game. Everyone knew there role and played thier role.

Modern Dream Team? Aside from 1 center and Kobe all the rest of them have almost the exact same game. Everything is slash drive, Lebron, Wade, Rose, Westbrook, Durant (though he can shoot), Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Meh...

 

[clonetrooper264]

Mullins ?

So your telling me there's more than 1 Mullin?

Wow, I never knew. That's new knowledge I have took in thanks to your steadfast wisdom and saved unknown history that baffles even the minds of those who research and write the Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Gosh, thanks man.

:elephant:

Well played

 

[BigP50]

I disagree that either team would kill the other. I think the dream team was the best basketball team ever assembled but also think that this years team is a wayyyyy more athletic. Whichever team won it would be very close.

 

[JosMin]

There is literally a zero percent chance the Dream Team would lose to a "current squad of stars" or any other team, for that matter.

Please, look at this roster again --

They aren't losing to anyone.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

There is literally a zero percent chance the Dream Team would lose to a "current squad of stars" or any other team, for that matter.

Please, look at this roster again --

They aren't losing to anyone.

the **** is up with barkley's skin?

 

[clonetrooper264]

the **** is up with barkley's skin?

Bad tan? :dunno:

 

[BigP50]

I see them, best team ever I know that. But sometimes better athletes beat better teams. I.E. Thunder over Spurs this year.

 

[clonetrooper264]

I see them, best team ever I know that. But sometimes better athletes beat better teams. I.E. Thunder over Spurs this year.

Idk...the only guys that the modern team would have a definite athletic advantage over are the aging Bird and Magic, Laettner, Mullin, and Stockton. Offensively everyone except probably Laettner and Mullin could probably do their job just as effectively against more athletic competition. Defensively, all those guys had a lot of help from all NBA defenders either in the paint or on the perimeter.

The Spurs' main guys were also far older than the Thunder's main guys. I mean, their big 3 were all over 30 while the Thunder's were all younger than 25. That plays a huge factor. In this case, most of the Dream Team is in their prime. Only guys who weren't were Bird and Magic, and those guys were still really good.