Elite NFL QBs

[FozzyBear]

Mahomes is the most elite.

Rob Johnson never sniffed elite nor did Brad. But that Bucs D was lights out!

Joe is elite due to a shortage of elite at the current time. LMAO

Just because the QB position is sus atm doesnt make Joe elite by default. If Joe was Elite he would have won that SB, right?... i forget how many picks Stafford had 2..3? AND the elite guy couldnt capitalize right... QB position is sus because ppl too impatient to let kid develop... also... organizations ruin dem kids too cause they cant develop.. among other things but yeah,.,.

Bucs d was lights out... hmmmm.. so are you saying you can win games, let alone a SB without an elite QB?

shitty teams keep chasing an elite QB that never happens all the while great organization build good teams and remain competitive. ala those steelers....

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Just because the QB position is sus atm doesnt make Joe elite by default. If Joe was Elite he would have won that SB, right?... i forget how many picks Stafford had 2..3? AND the elite guy couldnt capitalize right... QB position is sus because ppl too impatient to let kid develop... also... organizations ruin dem kids too cause they cant develop.. among other things but yeah,.,.

Bucs d was lights out... hmmmm.. so are you saying you can win games, let alone a SB without an elite QB?

shitty teams keep chasing an elite QB that never happens all the while great organization build good teams and remain competitive. ala those steelers....

You forget the first post so soon. Doesn't necessarily equate to rings but will get you through the regular season and closer to it. He got close! And look how bad they are without him. He means too much to his team not to be elite.

We just come from an era of a handful of elite QBs who went out around the same time. Takes time to restock.

There are always exceptions to the rule but if you follow the rule, you have a much better chance at getting there.

A great QB is the 1 position in highest demand year in and year out for good reason. You don't here fans sayin' let's tank for this RB or this WR. No, you always want the top pick for the top QB prospect cause nothing has the potential of turning a team around quicker.

 

[FozzyBear]

You forget the first post so soon. Doesn't necessarily equate to rings but will get you through the regular season and closer to it. He got close! And look how bad they are without him. He means too much to his team not to be elite.

We just come from an era of a handful of elite QBs who went out around the same time. Takes time to restock.

There are always exceptions to the rule but if you follow the rule, you have a much better chance at getting there.

A great QB is the 1 position in highest demand year in and year out for good reason. You don't here fans sayin' let's tank for this RB or this WR. No, you always want the top pick for the top QB prospect cause nothing has the potential of turning a team around quicker.

things take time to develop m8... like you said.. Joe needs more time and the resume to be elite... elite Joe wins that SB...good joe loses it.... fields needs more time and a good oc to be chigoat..

fans are generally football dumb though... like they put all the wins and losses on the QB.. yet there is a team, coaches, org and opposing franchises that can affect the outcome...

SF is winning with purdy... y? cause they built a team... building a team is easier than finding a mahomes... also takes a staff... if pace listens to me and takes mahomes, he more than likely isnt kc mahomes..

build a team.. find a QB that can manage and you can compete for SBS... luck out and develop a guy and that elite QB helps you become a dynasty... KC was a good squad before mahomes.. NE was a good team before that game manager brady became the goat.. steelers before the game managing big ben developed into an elite.. peeps be wanting the chicken before the egg..

 

[Warrior Spirit]

things take time to develop m8... like you said.. Joe needs more time and the resume to be elite... elite Joe wins that SB...good joe loses it.... fields needs more time and a good oc to be chigoat..

fans are generally football dumb though... like they put all the wins and losses on the QB.. yet there is a team, coaches, org and opposing franchises that can affect the outcome...

SF is winning with purdy... y? cause they built a team... building a team is easier than finding a mahomes... also takes a staff... if pace listens to me and takes mahomes, he more than likely isnt kc mahomes..

build a team.. find a QB that can manage and you can compete for SBS... luck out and develop a guy and that elite QB helps you become a dynasty... KC was a good squad before mahomes.. NE was a good team before that game manager brady became the goat.. steelers before the game managing big ben developed into an elite.. peeps be wanting the chicken before the egg..

He's shown the signs, taken the correct route of the elite. 1st year rookie on shit team, figures shit out and already making them better. Then got hurt. 2nd year goes all the way to the SB but has to lose to the Rams in Matt Stafford's 1st year there cause NFL script says so. 3rd year takes them to conference championships but has to lose to Chiefs this time cause NFL script says so.

Purdy is purdy good. Not like they could win with any old Lance/Fields type QB.

Nobody is saying you need an elite QB but, the better your QB, the better your team.

Look at the consensus GOAT. Didn't win all those rings by himself although that ends up being the perception of most. Even a GOAT needs lady luck and refs on his side from time to time.

 

[jsu34]

bro youre confusing an elite QB with capable one. Bengals? Joe isnt elite yet.. sorry.. neither is Josh Allen.. i wouldnt even say they be great.. they r good.. but to be elite, is to be great...

Also Fields>Pickett..

Steelers are winning with subpar QB play.. WHY? Legendary organization ran by the rooneys, top teir coach and a TEAM that can compete in spite of their QB.

Bro, Bears could have went wildcat with fields this year and won more than they lost if they had a competent OC and a visionary at HC.. not some DC

As a long-time Steelers fan, I concurr 1000%. Fields >>>> Pickett.

 

[Trayhezy]

An Elite QB can keep his team competitive and win games even when his team has multiple deficiencies.

Elite QBs can overcome a bad defense, a below average Oline, a lack of receiving talent, a non-existent running game etc.

An Elite QB can win in the regular season if you give him the bare minimum to work with.

There are usually at most 3-4 Elite QBs at a given time...another 5-8 good ones and the rest are interchangeable.

Fans become hyper focused on Elite QBs because the GM has crapped the bed on putting together a competent roster.

No QB no matter how great can overcome a shitty roster.

 

[KittiesKorner]

I want some trenches

 

[theConjuring]

An elite qb is someone who steadies your team through a bad draft or two, an injury laden season, a shaky offensive line, a below average defense, etc in any given year.

They give you several spins of the wheel with playoff berths just about year in and year out.

For instance, Burrow almost won a sb in year 2 with a bad line, and coming off an acl tear.

 

[theConjuring]

If Rex doesnt rexks his finger and knee yrs 1 n 2.. does he develop into the GOAT?

Wasn't it his ankle? It ruined his mobility, and teams started pressuring him up the gut.

 

[TL1961]

To me, the question is not whether Fields can be “elite“ or where he ranks one to 32.

The question that needs to be asked is rather simple: Can the Bears win a Super Bowl with this man under center?

That’s really what it boils down to.

If the Bears are not quite certain that the answer is yes, they need to draft a quarterback.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

To me, the question is not whether Fields can be “elite“ or where he ranks one to 32.

The question that needs to be asked is rather simple: Can the Bears win a Super Bowl with this man under center?

That’s really what it boils down to.

If the Bears are not quite certain that the answer is yes, they need to draft a quarterback.

The answer is obviously yes. If Trent fucking Dilfer can, then Fields certainly can.

The real question to me is do you want to pay a QB 50-60 a year for multiple years?

 

[dbldrew]

Elite QBs make everyone around them better, they are at their best when the lights are brightest.

With Fields needing everything perfect around him and how terrible he is in the 4th quarter, to think that Fields would be an elite QB on another team is laughable

 

[knoxville7]

What is elite anyway? stats? rings? availability? track record?

Bros, if its all of the above... theres only 1 elite QB currently in the NFL.... Mahomes.. everyone else is on lesser tiers..
The odds of Drake Mayonnaise and Caleb cant beat top teams Williams are gonna be elite are slim to none..

If Fields were the Steelers QB, theyd be a legitimate superbowl contender this year.. Build da team out.. play complementary foosball.

Last paragraph is complete bullshit. LMAO. You nuthuggers are ridiculous.

As for the opening paragraph, all of that except not necessarily rings even as it will get you much closer. It's hard to explain to schleps. You need the wherewithal to be able to recognize the incredible difference a great QB can make to your team during the regular season, especially in the cap era in which the emphasis has been on parity. During the regular season, you face a great percentage of mediocre teams. A great QB is going to get you a lot more wins over these teams than an average one will.

Look around, clown, it's easy to see. Why does the NFC South suck? Cause all their QBs do. Why is the AFC south so mediocre? Cause their QBs have been. How did Houston take a giant leap up to mediocrity from the steaming pile of dog shit they were last year? They nailed that 2nd pick in the draft and struck gold at QB!

Why do the Chiefs own their division and need not worry about getting upset here or there? Cause they have the most elite QB. The Pats have shown you how hard it is to move on without your elite QB. The Bengals have been the only team to offer competition to the Chiefs in the playoffs for the past couple of years but without their elite QB, they're no better than the Bears.

You must not know what a paragraph is, cuz there are not multiple paragraphs in his post, dumbass.

 

[PrideisBears]

Last paragraph is complete bullshit. LMAO. You nuthuggers are ridiculous.

As for the opening paragraph, all of that except not necessarily rings even as it will get you much closer. It's hard to explain to schleps. You need the wherewithal to be able to recognize the incredible difference a great QB can make to your team during the regular season, especially in the cap era in which the emphasis has been on parity. During the regular season, you face a great percentage of mediocre teams. A great QB is going to get you a lot more wins over these teams than an average one will.

Look around, clown, it's easy to see. Why does the NFC South suck? Cause all their QBs do. Why is the AFC south so mediocre? Cause their QBs have been. How did Houston take a giant leap up to mediocrity from the steaming pile of dog shit they were last year? They nailed that 2nd pick in the draft and struck gold at QB!

Why do the Chiefs own their division and need not worry about getting upset here or there? Cause they have the most elite QB. The Pats have shown you how hard it is to move on without your elite QB. The Bengals have been the only team to offer competition to the Chiefs in the playoffs for the past couple of years but without their elite QB, they're no better than the Bears.

Are you upset?

 

[KittiesKorner]

Are you upset?

when isn't he?

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Are you upset?

No. You good?

 

[PrideisBears]

Elite QBs make everyone around them better, they are at their best when the lights are brightest.

With Fields needing everything perfect around him and how terrible he is in the 4th quarter, to think that Fields would be an elite QB on another team is laughable

If that’s the case as someone mentioned earlier we can eliminate Burrow, Allen and herbert from any list that consider them elite. Seems only Elite QB is Mahomes

 

[PrideisBears]

No. You good?

I’m worried about your blood pressure. If you’re gone who will moderate the donator forum ?

 

[TL1961]

The answer is obviously yes. If Trent fucking Dilfer can, then Fields certainly can.

The real question to me is do you want to pay a QB 50-60 a year for multiple years?

So, if the Bears’ D literally sets the record for fewest points allowed in a season Fields can win.

Good measuring stick.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

So, if the Bears’ D literally sets the record for fewest points allowed in a season Fields can win.

Good measuring stick.

I mean it’s the wrong question to ask because many QBs can win a SB.