ESPN: Dirk to opt out of contract and become free agent.

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the thing is maybe for a year or two, then he's too old and he's on the books for max+ for three more years.
 

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never said I wanted Dirk over Bosh. But I would be pretty excited if we signed Dirk.
 

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Karl Malone was the best PF ever, and I have no doubt of that in my mind. Bosh isn't that good... he's like a poor man's 2004 KG. He doesn't play with enough intensity on the defensive end. He isn't a good shot-blocker. He's a great offensive rebounder and that's how he gets most of his high-percentage shots. He takes too many outside shots as well for a PF. I guy like Stoudemire or even Boozer would serve us better on offense because both of those guys are pick-and-roll/low-post scorers - who can hit the 15 foot shot as a secondary weapon. Bosh likes to face you up and take you off-the-dribble, and is all over the place.

I think that all the current top PFs in the NBA has flaws. KG & TD are the best on defense but they are aging. Stoudemire, Nowitzki, Bosh, and Boozer the best scorers but none are good on defense...and the 2 best scorers (Nowitzki are Stoudemire) will only get you 7-9 rebounds.

Pau Gasol looked lost vs the Celtics in 2008, and got punished by Perkins. But honestly, I think that he is actually the most fundamentally-sound PF in the NBA. He may be a little soft, but he is naturally a finese type of player. Plus, I think that he has continued to improve since '08. It is unfair to say that Gasol only looks good because of Kobe... hell- Kobe looks better because of Gasol. I'm not saying he's the best PF, but that's just a bit unfair to imply that Kobe made him who he is. Before Pau, LAL as getting bounced by PHX every year. Pau puts up monster stats in a balanced, deadly offense... not easy to do.

good post, agree with what you said.
 

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I agree with mostly everything you just said but still completely disagree on Dirk VS Bosh
 

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I wonder if Bosh will really go wherever Bron goes.
 

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john stockton can definitely make someone look very good can he not. and also most career turnovers.

a poor man's MVP...?
 

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I wonder if Bosh will really go wherever Bron goes.
It might not be up to him. If Bosh goes somewhere with no cap left, Bosh cant do anything. I would love to see him and LBJ agree on a pay cut each and going to Chicago to win multiple titles. But again, Bosh did say he didnt want to play second banana to anyone and he's still denying the whole list thing so we dont know if he will play with Bron or Wade.
 

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sign and trade for deng. if lebron demands it, it'll happen.
 

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Id love LeBron as a Bull but i would love him more if he managed to rid us of Dengs hideous contract
 

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what would that matter? his contract would be up so all parts of the contract would not apply anymore because it's up? am i right on that?
 

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It might not be up to him. If Bosh goes somewhere with no cap left, Bosh cant do anything. I would love to see him and LBJ agree on a pay cut each and going to Chicago to win multiple titles. But again, Bosh did say he didnt want to play second banana to anyone and he's still denying the whole list thing so we dont know if he will play with Bron or Wade.

just trade Kirk and Deng and sign Bron and Bosh, that easy. :tongue:
 

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Thats not the point. The point is that teams might not have the money to sign Bosh. Say we get LeBron and Bosh wants to go to Chicago. We cannot sign him unless Deng and Hinrich are gone. TOR can either take two bad contracts or let Bosh walk for nothing and at least try to use their money on someone else instead of on Deng and Hinrich(which they still have Jack and Calderon)
 

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sign and trade for deng. if lebron demands it, it'll happen.

Oh come on man. No it wouldn't. The Cavs would rather just keep their cap space and go after someone like Amare/Boozer or Lee. Or even save it for next year for Melo.

Let LeBron leave is a lot better than letting LeBron leave and taking on a terrible contract. They already have one in Varejo.
 

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they wouldn't have actual cap space. even after lebron leaves they'll have maybe 5 mil. that's it.
 

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They wont get Boozer. He screwed them years back when he signed with Utah. They hate him in Cleveland.
 

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