Failure to stop at a stop sign
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You can go and ask for as continuance, or have someone else do it for you if you have a good reason
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Ah a continuance!! That makes sense. I thought he was talking about calling in and saying that date was inconvenient for him and if they can change the date.
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lol..I hope not
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You should've just offered him a blowie or something.
That sucks though. I think the only time I actually stop at stop signs is if I'm high or have had anything to drink. I never drive while drunk but if I've had a drink or two at dinner, I get very paranoid. So I'll spell "S-T-O-P" at each sign before I go
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People accept blowies from you? Siiiiiiiiick.
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Lol well I didn't say I offer people blowies. That was my suggestion for the poster with the issue.
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That's one way to look at it haha
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It depends. He may only have the 'Violator Report', which will NOT have the officer's narrative containing the officer's probable cause for stop. The officer's narrative (probable cause for stop) would be on the officer copy as there is also a court copy as well. It depends on whether or not this agency uses Tracs (a citation issued via in-squad printer), which I would almost bet my retirement they do.
Some agencies require 100% reporting, which would require this officer to do a written report separate from this citation. Some agencies require their traffic officers to do this as well. Now 95% of agencies would have the officer’s narrative on the officer copy, but I highly doubt BNB would have the officer's narrative on the citation that was issued to him. He would probably need to request a copy of this, which would be vital should he review video and decide whether or not he wanted to fight this citation. Discrepancies in the probable cause for stop and video could help his case if he were to exhaust such an avenue.
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if there is this little red sign that says stop, for the future you may want to infact stop. just sayin
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It might be different where you live, but in Chicago all the copies are the same..There isn't a narrative..It just has a place for the date/time, personal info, and violation etc. The cop testifies from memory, unless he makes some personal notes for himself somewhere.
I will have to ask my brother if they went to computerized citations in Chicago or not.
EDIT..I just looked on-line and found that as of Feb. 2014, Chgo is still using hand written citations from books
The new Version 8.0 Violation Notice citation books will become effective Saturday, 22 February 2014 at 0001 hours. After that time, Department members will not issue a Violation Notice citation from any previous versions.
1. The new version number for the Citation book is 8.0.
2. The new color for the face of the Citation book is bright green.
3. A violation of 9-64-170(a) MCC - "Special types of vehicles" is effective in all wards.
4. The list of codes for plate types and vehicle makes have been revised.
I do know that they went to electronic case reports a while back, but it appears they still use the old fashioned books for moving citations
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That's not what I was asking :shrug:
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All stop signs should be yield signs. Except at school crossings.
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They are in the minds of people out in the suburbs lol.
Idk how many times I have been driving on a 45 mph road out by my moms house and people coming out of the subdivisions will slow down to a near stop, and then blow the stop sign and plop themselves in front of me at 20 mph and then accelerate to 40 mph after about a mile.
People treat Stop signs as a suggestion from their parents like "Well if it seems good to me I will take it but otherwise **** it, I'll do what I want"
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So I went to court yesterday and the judge was pretty awesome.
He said everyone there that was there for ONLY stop sign violations [and there was over 50 of us], then he'll cut us a deal where we only pay 194 bucks and that's it. Otherwise, it would have been 294, insurance would have gone up and it would have gone on our record. But that didn't stop some dumbasses from saying "Not guilty."
There were also a few instances in which he asked people if they wanted to get their license back for 50 bucks, and they said they didn't have 50. He asked them how much they had... they gave him an amount, and he said "good enough."
So yeah... I got pretty lucky.
He said everyone there that was there for ONLY stop sign violations [and there was over 50 of us], then he'll cut us a deal where we only pay 194 bucks and that's it. Otherwise, it would have been 294, insurance would have gone up and it would have gone on our record. But that didn't stop some dumbasses from saying "Not guilty."
There were also a few instances in which he asked people if they wanted to get their license back for 50 bucks, and they said they didn't have 50. He asked them how much they had... they gave him an amount, and he said "good enough."
So yeah... I got pretty lucky.
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Same here for my ticket. Basically said you plead guilty three months supervision and $185. Totally worth it. He was actually a real nice guy and I had no problem calling him, Your Honor
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That's good news BNB...Congrats!
BTW...Those idiots that plead NG...I'd bet they got found guilty...lol
BTW...Those idiots that plead NG...I'd bet they got found guilty...lol
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The first person who said not guilty, the judge told him, and I'm paraphrasing, "Because you're saying not guilty, you'll have to come back again. And when you come back, it'll be your word against the officer's word. Since neither of you have proof, we have to go by motive. What's your motive for saying you did stop? To not pay anything. What's their motive for saying you didn't stop? Nothing. They're just doing their job. So you'll probably lose either way." He still said "not guilty." The judge then told him to sit on the side to think about it for a little while and to come back up when he's ready. He walked up to the judge a few minutes later and said "Not guilty." The judge kind of threw his arms up and said "Okaaaaay. good luck."
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Id bet the judge put a reminder note on that guys file too...hahahahah
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