Favorite prospects not named Anderson or Carter?

[Camden Cutler]

Cool. What about the offensive problems that the Bears have had for the last 40 years?

he's wearing number 1 and is currently on your roster

your offense with bad talent is putting up 30 points per game when he plays...your defense with just as bad talent is giving up 30+ points per game
i understand its easy to get caught up in Bear cliches after years and years of it being true but your defense has bigger issues than your offense right now

besides you're acting like i said spend free agency and all draft capital on defense

 

[gallagher]

Yep and moved to Vegas in 2021. Went to school at UNL. Our football was just slightly less shitty than it's been the last 6 years but not much!

Dang, I have family South of Lincoln just over the Kansas border. Was there still a big coffee pot on stilts like some water tower off the highway on the way to Kearney?

 

[gallagher]

One of the deepest positions in FA is RB. Also historically easiest to fill throughout the draft. One of the weakest in FA and also one of the bears biggest needs is WR. If bears are going offense in round 1, picking a RB over WR would be pretty crazy. They should be in position to have their pick of the litter at WR even if they trade down. Herbert has one of the best, if not the best YPC of all RBs. They do not need to invest a top 10ish pick on a RB and I’d wager a good chunk of money that Poles doesn’t draft a RB with his first ever 1st round pick selection

Oh I am quite sure he is aiming to invest in the trenches in round one. And my hope is Anderson on that matter.

The best offensive weapon in the draft is a running back. Its certainly easy to get a good running back, and Herbert has had a lot of good carries for us this year.

Given what I have seen, which granted is from my couch with popcorn, I am not sure I like any WR in the top 5. Robinson seems like a guaranteed stud in comparison. I like a lot of WR talent with the second rounder from the ravens, or the third round pick.

 

[ZenBear34]

Bro, Maine is nowhere near Chicago

Park Ridge literally borders Chicago.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Park Ridge literally borders Chicago.

Whoosh

 

[Tillman33]

I know some compare him to Kevin White but I like Quentin Johnston a lot. His size + speed combo is just so rare and freakish. I think he will be a really good player at the next level.

The Bears could trade back to 8 or 9 for a kings ransom and draft him, and then they suddenly have two 6 ft 4 receivers on the outside with 4.4 speed.. with arguably their best receiver in the middle of the field, and a budding pro bowl TE and RB to boot. Skill at every position on offense and loaded up with draft picks + FA capital for the next 2 seasons to build a top defense and Oline.

That would be such a good strategic move imo. The Bears are on the cusp of being a special offense and now they need a special player on that side of the ball to compliment Fields. This move is exactly what the Bengals did in drafting Chase when they probably could have gone OLine.

Also probably makes the Bears and Fields an even better rushing/blocking attack with two receivers on the outside with that kind of size

 

[Enasic]

Oh I am quite sure he is aiming to invest in the trenches in round one. And my hope is Anderson on that matter.

The best offensive weapon in the draft is a running back. Its certainly easy to get a good running back, and Herbert has had a lot of good carries for us this year.

Given what I have seen, which granted is from my couch with popcorn, I am not sure I like any WR in the top 5. Robinson seems like a guaranteed stud in comparison. I like a lot of WR talent with the second rounder from the ravens, or the third round pick.

I don’t love any WR at 5. That said, I think Johnston/Addison/JSN would all be good picks starting around 10. JSN is the safest, IMO but Johnston has the highest ceiling. I really like Addison though and wouldn’t be surprised if he ended up the best of the 3. I’d be happy with any of the 3 though if the Bears traded down to 10 or below.

 

[Enasic]

I know some compare him to Kevin White but I like Quentin Johnston a lot. His size + speed combo is just so rare and freakish. I think he will be a really good player at the next level.

The Bears could trade back to 8 or 9 for a kings ransom and draft him, and then they suddenly have two 6 ft 4 receivers on the outside with 4.4 speed.. with arguably their best receiver in the middle of the field, and a budding pro bowl TE and RB to boot. Skill at every position on offense and loaded up with draft picks + FA capital for the next 2 seasons to build a top defense and Oline.

That would be such a good strategic move imo. The Bears are on the cusp of being a special offense and now they need a special player on that side of the ball to compliment Fields. This move is exactly what the Bengals did in drafting Chase when they probably could have gone OLine.

Also probably makes the Bears and Fields an even better rushing/blocking attack with two receivers on the outside with that kind of size

Johnston actually needs a lot of work as a blocker despite his size. I’d still love a kings ransom trade down and selecting Johnston though.

The OL has actually held up well the past couple games. Jones has been playing great and they’ve been getting solid RT play from Reiff/Leatherwood. It’s hard to imagine the Bears not coming away with at least 1 starter in FA (likely C), but I wouldn’t rule out 2 new starters signed in FA. If that happens, I don’t see any way they draft another OL in the 1st.

 

[jive]

Gaythrough? I suggest some time with @jive to smoke a little weed and calm yourself.

Did someone call the doctor? I'm ready to dole out some healing. I'll start with myself.

Tonight's prescription is Kush Mintz

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Dang, I have family South of Lincoln just over the Kansas border. Was there still a big coffee pot on stilts like some water tower off the highway on the way to Kearney?

There's one right outside of Omaha. It's still there and still weird lol

 

[Tillman33]

Johnston actually needs a lot of work as a blocker despite his size. I’d still love a kings ransom trade down and selecting Johnston though.

The OL has actually held up well the past couple games. Jones has been playing great and they’ve been getting solid RT play from Reiff/Leatherwood. It’s hard to imagine the Bears not coming away with at least 1 starter in FA (likely C), but I wouldn’t rule out 2 new starters signed in FA. If that happens, I don’t see any way they draft another OL in the 1st.

Agreed. It would be like building a better version of what the Eagles are right now - they used this same strategy too and will have a top 5 pick next year too lol

I maintain that Jalen Hurts would look no better as a passer this year if they didn’t acquire AJ Brown and Goedert staying healthy. Bears will never truly build around Fields if they are trying to piecemeal it together with reclamation projects

 

[TL1961]

Skoronski also has that local flavor.

He's a Maine South graduate.

If he's the right guy, that's one thing.

Never let the fact a guy is local impact your decision in drafting.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I literally don't like anyone else if the Bears stay in the top 5. I can't even come up with a 5th best player that I'd be comfortable taking at 5, after Young, Stroud (who they won't take), Carter, and Anderson.

Bresee- doesn't impress me. Good, not great athlete. More of a big motor guy instead of a guy with elite traits, IMO
Skoronski- like has been said, high floor, maybe not an elite ceiling. But that may be fine for OL, if he can stay at OT
Murphy- looks the part, but gives me Clowney vibes. You draft him top 5, you're expecting elite pass rushing potential, but he's a run defender over all else
Johnston- he's probably who I'd have 5 right now, elite potential, reminds me of Tee Higgins. Most likely in this draft to be a true alpha, but doesn't have elite hands or route running
Addison- most likely to produce at the NFL level, but can he be a #1 WR at 175lbs?
Tyree Wilson- again looks the part, freakishly long arms, has a ton of pressures, but doesn't have elite burst
Paris Johnson- don't love him, 1 year as a starter at OT. Looks the part, but previously a guard. Needs a lot of work, IMO.
Cam Smith- best CB, could argue he's 5th best pick, but I just can't stomach 3 earliest picks all used on DBs in 2 years.

I'd feel a lot more comfortable taking one of these guys at like picks 8-10 instead of top 5. And I'd have Bresee and Johnson more in the 15th pick range.

Why is Paris Johnson being a guard for a year a problem?

 

[iueyedoc]

Genereal Booty QB OU
Decoldest Crawford WR NEB
Dylan Deatherage OL W. Mich
Bumper Pool LB UNLV
New Zealand Williams DB SDSU

have to be my top 5 prospects not named carter or anderson .

 

[rawdawg]

Why is Paris Johnson being a guard for a year a problem?

Him being a guard isn't a problem. Him only having 1 year experience at tackle is. I see the upside there, but I see a long way to get there. A way that would be shorter if he had more than 1 year at LT.

 

[rawdawg]

he's wearing number 1 and is currently on your roster

your offense with bad talent is putting up 30 points per game when he plays...your defense with just as bad talent is giving up 30+ points per game
i understand its easy to get caught up in Bear cliches after years and years of it being true but your defense has bigger issues than your offense right now

besides you're acting like i said spend free agency and all draft capital on defense

First of all, they put up 30 points 4 times this season (counting a game w/ 29). They are still 19th in points scored. Even taking out the Siemien start, they still only average 21.67 with Fields. So, yeah, not anywhere close to 30ppg.

Secondly, do you think it's sustainable to put up 30 points per game when you can't execute a simple dropback pass because there is pressure in the QB's face in 2.5 seconds or because WRs aren't getting open? Sure they held up vs GB this week, but just the week before they allowed 5 pressures on 8 drop backs with Trevor Siemien getting rid of the ball in 2.3 seconds.

Third, we've seen Tua, Hurts, Allen, etc. take off when their teams added a stud WR. We've seen stud OLs make guys like Jimmy G and Jacoby Brissett look like solid QBs. I know they aren't getting both a stud WR and stud OL, but they need talent there. And a lot of it. I didn't say you said to spend all capital on D. But you are suggesting to spend ALL 4 of the only top 60 picks Poles has (last year and this coming year) on defense.

Support your QB for once.

Draft after Fields- Brisker, Gordon. Now you want DT and DE first 2 picks, granted did get Jenkins in 2nd
Draft after Trubisky- Roquan, granted did get Daniels and Miller in 2nd, then didn't have another pick til 3rd
Draft after Cutler- granted no 1sts or 2nds but Gilbert, Wootton, Major Wright, McClellin and Kyle Fuller were some of their early picks after having Jay.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Him being a guard isn't a problem. Him only having 1 year experience at tackle is. I see the upside there, but I see a long way to get there. A way that would be shorter if he had more than 1 year at LT.

I don’t know… seems like one of the safest picks in the draft to me. Consensus 5 star outa HS. Plays well at guard entire sophomore year. Plays well at LT entire junior year. He’s always looked the part, and played great for two years at a big time program. To me he looks like a plug and play OL for the next ten years. If Jones has LT down put him at RT. Just seems like a boring, safe pick… the type the Bears usually don’t make.

 

[rawdawg]

I don’t know… seems like one of the safest picks in the draft to me. Consensus 5 star outa HS. Plays well at guard entire sophomore year. Plays well at LT entire junior year. He’s always looked the part, and played great for two years at a big time program. To me he looks like a plug and play OL for the next ten years. If Jones has LT down put him at RT. Just seems like a boring, safe pick… the type the Bears usually don’t make.

I got you. I think Skoronski is the safe pick. I think Johnson is more upside that safe right now. And he's a fine pick, I just question it in the top 10. I think there's more value in guys like Jaelyn Duncan or Anton Harrison if you can get them later (probably have to have an early to mid 2nd though). And he does have the upside to justify top 10. So, I wouldn't hate the pick at all, just scares me a little.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I got you. I think Skoronski is the safe pick. I think Johnson is more upside that safe right now. And he's a fine pick, I just question it in the top 10. I think there's more value in guys like Jaelyn Duncan or Anton Harrison if you can get them later (probably have to have an early to mid 2nd though). And he does have the upside to justify top 10. So, I wouldn't hate the pick at all, just scares me a little.

Haven’t watched Skoronski. I’ll get around to it in the next few months.

 

[dabears70]

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