Fields: 169 yards passing after 4 TOs by Detroit just isn't going to cut it.

[pdxbearsfan]

Most teams would love to have Fields on their roster.

Yes, Campbell and McDaniel seem to like him, smart guys, both.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Even though I disagree, I’ve never been a jerk to someone who believes Fields is the guy or personally insulted them for that. I just hope that when the Bears either release or trade away Fields, those of us who were honest with our assessments of Fields get some much-deserved apologies.

I'll get right on that another day.

 

[cubsforlife]

CJ Stroud is out here throwing to mid WRs and he’s in the MVP conversation as a rookie. I saw Justin Herbert throw for 4000 yards and nearly 30 TDs in his rookie year, mind you he had Anthony Lynn as a HC. Whilewe are three years in and still have no idea what Fields is. At the end of the day, with all the excuses, maybe it’s just time to accept that he’s just not good enough.

Stroud is not available for us to get any longer. I'm talking future, not past.

As far as the 3rd year, everyone develops at their own pace and with their own talent around them. No situation is the same. How many years did it take Alex Smith or Ryan Tannehill to become good? I think fields can be a lot better than those two given time. That doesn't mean I would never change qb, but who? I don't think williams or maye are it. Also, it's still highly visible that fields is still improving. He's not getting worse or staying stagnant, he is progressing. Don't just throw that away for a project that could be what he is currently with time. Unless you feel he's currently good enough with alot more potential to him than fields possesses.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Fixed.

Did you forget Walter was a Bear?

 

[pdxbearsfan]

I don't know about that. I think we're straddling the line between bottom third and middle third as far as talent level goes. Still, that should be better than 3-8 though considering our bad schedule so far. That's why I'd really like to see what we could do with an even competent NFL coaching staff before jumping to massive conclusions like Darnell Wright is a bust, Fields is not just not a franchise QB but an awful QB and so on.

If you've got the 1st overall pick this year and your own at say #5, I would imagine the thirst for a trade-up to get Williams or Maye would be as fervent or more than last year. If I could get a legit star player and a future 1st, or 2 future 1sts and more in exchange for trading down to ~#8, I seriously entertain it. This team still needs real blue-chip talent all around the roster, so maybe you grab Bowers at #5 and a real impact defensive player at #8 (McKinstry, Turner, etc). Maybe even trade down again to recoup the 2nd given up for Sweat and really focus on cramming the roster full of talent as much as possible for a new coach and a new QB that you might be looking for in a year or two anyway. It's not like drafting a guy in the top 10 doesn't mean he gets 3 years automatically: see Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, Josh Rosen, etc.

Best case scenario at that point is that it was the terrible coaching staff, Fields turns out to be a Lamar Jackson-ish player and now you're simply loaded with draft capital to keep building the team up. Worst-case, you're looking to draft another guy in 2025 and you've still got the draft capital to do it along with more blue-chip talent already in place.

On the right track with this.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Yes, that's correct because the Bears maybe get 10 points w/o JF.

Yeah, that's why it hasn't happened since 1932. You're so smart.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

How do bears fans still believe in Fields at this point? It's mind-blowing. Literal Stockholm syndrome.

A QB cannot succeed lacking pocket and field awareness. Mediocre accuracy notwithstanding. They have a chance at the potential #1 pick and people want them to pass on a QB. It's hilarious to the point of absurdity.

Idiot.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

The point is, Bears fans have been saying forever that they can’t move on from their QBs, because they’re going to turn into studs later. They never do.

Yes, the organization sucks. The coaching sucks. The quarterbacks also just haven’t been good.


All the people pushing back: Go on record right now. Do you honestly believe Fields is going to turn it around and become great?

If not, what are you even arguing?

If so, necro this and put me in my place.

I'm all in on JF even with the piss poor coaching.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Who is the QB? They look like shit. Both Maye and Williams. Plus Williams is a head case. Neither rose to the occasion against good competition. I wouldn’t draft either

You said that well and are correct.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

all pac12 defenses suck

Check on the Ducks before you say that. Either the only or 1 of 2 teams with top 10 in both "D" and "O".

 

[baselman1974]

CJ Stroud is out here throwing to mid WRs and he’s in the MVP conversation as a rookie. I saw Justin Herbert throw for 4000 yards and nearly 30 TDs in his rookie year, mind you he had Anthony Lynn as a HC. Whilewe are three years in and still have no idea what Fields is. At the end of the day, with all the excuses, maybe it’s just time to accept that he’s just not good enough.

So you are saying coaching matters? Also QBs mature at different rates. Is Herbert close to the playoffs? No he isn't because his coaches suck. Demico Ryans is a good HC that has his people work on players' strengths. Look at Texans defense. Its good.

Also look at Strouds stats yesterday 73% 336 yards 2 CDs and 3 INTS. Those 3 INTs suck. Other players kept the Texans win. The Bears need the defense and coaches to fucking step up especially up by 12 with 4 1/2 minutes to go. They didn't.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

You're leaving out the part where the offense had the ball in between those 2 drives and could have ended the game. Instead they went 3 and out and only took like 12 seconds off the clock. Just 1 first down leaves Detroit with barely any time left in that situation. Then got the ball back with 2 timeouts and immediately fumbled due to a complete lack of pocket awareness.

Yeah, it was definitely lack of awareness in that 1.1 seconds he had.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

I find it somewhat humorous that no one is mentioning the almost 9 minute drive in the 4th quarter that would've sealed it for any properly coached team.

But Eberflose's D prowess showed once again why his defenses have never been elite

That drive was beautiful and should have sealed it.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Well said . . .

Yeah, I agree with the OP as well.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

I think a new coaching staff can bring the best out of him.

Look at McDaniels with Tua, Siriani with Hurts, and Peyton with Wilson. New coaching can probably mold Fields into a top 10 QB in league. Fields have athletic ability and traits that very few QBs have. He also works hard.

If the Bears have 2 top 5 picks, lots of coaches will be interested.

Solid comments!!

 

[cubsforlife]

So you are saying coaching matters? Also QBs mature at different rates. Is Herbert close to the playoffs? No he isn't because his coaches suck. Demico Ryans is a good HC that has his people work on players' strengths. Look at Texans defense. Its good.

Also look at Strouds stats yesterday 73% 336 yards 2 CDs and 3 INTS. Those 3 INTs suck. Other players kept the Texans win. The Bears need the defense and coaches to fucking step up especially up by 12 with 4 1/2 minutes to go. They didn't.

I agree. But also, fields can step up some of these times with the game on the line.

 

[Toast88]

I'm all in on JF even with the piss poor coaching.

If you truly believe Fields is going to turn it around and be great—not just hope—hey, I can respect that.

 

[LiverpoolBearsFAn]

Scott even acknowledged that he screwed up by slowing down.

Yeah - it was actually a great throw.

Williams or Maye won't make difference with this coaching staff.

Completely agree - if I was the agent of either of them and the Bears still had these coaches in place then I’d be advising them against signing for the Bears. It’s vitally important to put a young QB into a good system with good coaches and I genuinely believe some young QBs have never realised their potential because they landed in the wrong place. Fields may be one, but I still think he could be a top ten QB in the league.

 

[Bearcub13]

And Getsy did what the meatballs wanted - plenty of designed runs in another loss.

And of course, Fields fumbled the game away.

So the 104 yards rushing doesn't count....

 

[onebud34]

So the 104 yards rushing doesn't count....

He'll reply once he gets back from his vacay to Cali