Fields: Lost his Balls???

[discplayer]

That would make sense if they actually ran a gameplan similar to last year for fields.

They did not. Another stupid report from a guy who is just a journalist.

The packers put a spy on fields to stop the run. The answer to that is NOT throwing a bunch of fucking screens. Getsy's gameplan was dogshit, simple as that.

Fields needs to improve, but you can only critique him so much when the coaching staff is asking him to play like a guy with a limp noodle for an arm.

Limp noodle for an arm and legs like Nick Foles. Getsy and Getting it, in my opinion. If Luke doesn't take advantage of Fields' strengths, threatening the D with them to set up all kinds of options (which will also build Justin's confidence back up to where it was) then he is so unequivocally unqualified. Getsy, not Fields!

I can only imagine what a bonafide offensive mind (Payton, K Shannahan, Reid) could do with Justin Field's strenghts. I sure hope there soon comes a time when I get to see it for real rather than "only imagine" it.

 

[dbldrew]

I can only imagine what a bonafide offensive mind (Payton, K Shannahan, Reid) could do with Justin Field's strenghts. I sure hope there soon comes a time when I get to see it for real rather than "only imagine" it.

They would create a perfect scheme to get guys open.. that Fields would still not throw it to them..

And then all the fanboys would still blame everyone else but fields

 

[msadows]

They would create a perfect scheme to get guys open.. that Fields would still not throw it to them..

And then all the fanboys would still blame everyone else but fields

Except we have yet to see that happen. A game where fields has a perfect pocket and open guys all over the field.

He needs to be better, but the entire team and coaching staff has to be better. Developing a QB isn't on one guy.

Fields completes some of those open passes and we still lose by double digits, and you'd still find something to shit on him for.

This team is bad right now, extremely unprepared, and it has nothing to do with talent, at least on offense. Thats the most concerning part.

 

[msadows]

Also, the majority of us are very open to criticism of fields, especially after last week.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for the success of the most talented QB the bears have ever had. There is something wrong with hoping for his failure, like you and fatboi and turdtuckey do.

 

[discplayer]

They would create a perfect scheme to get guys open.. that Fields would still not throw it to them..

And then all the fanboys would still blame everyone else but fields

Hmm... so that's what you remember of JF during his time at UGA or Ohio St? He didn't throw to open receivers? You are just believing your own narrative without any objectivity, clearly. The young man was Nagy'd first, now is being coached "down" (rather than up) by what is appearing to be another unqualified goof... That's what I see.

What is happening now, with Justin, does not add up to what we all saw from him in college.

 

[discplayer]

Also, the majority of us are very open to criticism of fields, especially after last week.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for the success of the most talented QB the bears have ever had. There is something wrong with hoping for his failure, like you and fatboi and turdtuckey do.

That'll preach, msadows! Nailed it.

While I was as unhappy about Justin's apprehension to let it rip as the next guy, I am still so excited about what he can become!

 

[run and shoot]

"Saying he is a young developing QB is you trying to excuse him."

It's the truth. And it has nothing to do with your projection of "excuse"

"Absolutely no one had claimed he should check down when guys are open."

JF was following Getsy's "horizontal game plan". Stop avoiding this >>>>>"horizontal game plan".

It is also the truth that Fields failed to throw to guys open down the field.

Getsy's horizontal gameplan had guys open running horizontal routes down the field but Fields did not throw to them. That's the truth.

Yeah I analyzed the routes (see link below). I watched the full Qb school Analysis. JT scolded Getsy's game plan.

JF is still suffering from a lack of pass pro in addition to janky route design JT points this out Go to @24:44 and @25:07 in link
#67 (Justin Fields Week 1 vs Green Bay Analysis) There's no way I'd theow the ball into some of those route combinations

 

[dbldrew]

Except we have yet to see that happen. A game where fields has a perfect pocket and open guys all over the field.

He needs to be better, but the entire team and coaching staff has to be better. Developing a QB isn't on one guy.

Fields completes some of those open passes and we still lose by double digits, and you'd still find something to shit on him for.

This team is bad right now, extremely unprepared, and it has nothing to do with talent, at least on offense. Thats the most concerning part.

Except that we have, all last year my entire argument was he was slow to process and would not throw to open WRs.. every game I would show examples of this, nothing has changed so far in year 3.

The light bulb better turn on for Fields and quick

 

[dbldrew]

Hmm... so that's what you remember of JF during his time at UGA or Ohio St? He didn't throw to open receivers? You are just believing your own narrative without any objectivity, clearly. The young man was Nagy'd first, now is being coached "down" (rather than up) by what is appearing to be another unqualified goof... That's what I see.

What is happening now, with Justin, does not add up to what we all saw from him in college.

Year 3 in the NFL and if you have to go back to his college performance then you have already lost the argument.

Every high drafted QB that ended up a bust had great college performance.. college vs pros is a completely different animal.

 

[dbldrew]

Also, the majority of us are very open to criticism of fields, especially after last week.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for the success of the most talented QB the bears have ever had. There is something wrong with hoping for his failure, like you and fatboi and turdtuckey do.

Lol should I quote how many times you personally attacked me when I pointed out those criticisms? If that's "very open" then I would hate to see the alternative

 

[run and shoot]

Except that we have, all last year my entire argument was he was slow to process and would not throw to open WRs.. every game I would show examples of this, nothing has changed so far in year 3.

The light bulb better turn on for Fields and quick

The YT video below shows that when JF gets pass pro....he processes quickly and hits the open wr's. And don't say it's the exception.
It's the rule when he decent pass pro. ?

JF hitting wr's and bringing the Bears back

 

[dbldrew]

The YT video below shows that when JF gets pass pro....he processes quickly and hits the open wr's. And don't say it's the exception.
It's the rule when he decent pass pro. ?

JF hitting wr's and bringing the Bears back

this YT video shows great protection for Fields, every throw but 1 he had great protection and plenty of time in the pocket

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Also, the majority of us are very open to criticism of fields, especially after last week.

There is nothing wrong with hoping for the success of the most talented QB the bears have ever had. There is something wrong with hoping for his failure, like you and fatboi and turdtuckey do.

Anyone that wants Fields to play bad or fail is not a true Bears fan. Likewise, anyone that would rather be "right" that Fields is not the guy than be wrong and see him success is also not a Bears fan.

What does happen though a lot on this board is people that end up BEING right are willing to gloat that they are right because it makes them feel that their future predictions are more important or hold more weight because they were right. A LOT of people are guilty of this mentality. But there is a subtle but huge difference.

 

[run and shoot]

this YT video shows great protection for Fields, every throw but 1 he had great protection and plenty of time in the pocket

There was some pocket collapsing on some of those throws. For 2023 JF had 17 tds vs 11 ints. An improvement over 2022.
I see you avoided any discussion about footage below>>>>

 

[shoez90]

Coaching staff decided fields was too good at running and throwing deep, and defenses would expect it. So they turned him into chad pennington.

This is what happens when you spend second half of season finding a identity only to throw it out the following year. If Getsy does same shit game two fire him before game three if not fire Eberflus game four. Getsy wants to be the guru behind the offensive wins and he has a player with unconventional talent. He was trending right last year but he's so hell bent on making JF into AR. He needs to go. We were stupid to get a OC from a pocket passing team. JF doesn't need to be a pocket passer he needs to be decisive and accurate. If he is that we win games. There's about six other QB models that we can pull from to see that reality. Mahomes Hurts Jackson Tua Stroud Young they can throw from the pocket but that doesn't make them pocket passers. AR, Brady Payton Brees were the last of that prototype. Look around read the fukin room already.

 

[dbldrew]

There was some pocket collapsing on some of those throws. For 2023 JF had 17 tds vs 11 ints. An improvement over 2022.
I see avoided any discussion about >>>>

eventually the best pocket will collapse given enough time, This is another problem that Fields has, he holds onto the ball too long, which is because he does not process whats happening quickly enough. But cherry picking one game and trying to extrapolate that all games would look like that if he had a pocket is flawed when 99% of his INT came when the OL gave him plenty of time and a clean pocket.

Fields has a major flaw to his game and if he doesnt figure this out quickly he will be done in Chicago. I originally figured he would get most of this year if not all of it barring injury. With how much flack the coaches are getting and Getsy coming out that its execution that is the problem, I'm thinking that leash is a lot shorter now.

 

[remydat]

Yeah I analyzed the routes (see link below). I watched the full Qb school Analysis. JT scolded Getsy's game plan.

JF is still suffering from a lack of pass pro in addition to janky route design JT points this out Go to @24:44 and @25:07 in link
#67 (Justin Fields Week 1 vs Green Bay Analysis) There's no way I'd theow the ball into some of those route combinations

JT also scolded Fields for not throwing to open guys downfield. It is both.

 

[shoez90]

Just curious how many running plays you want called for Fields? 5? 10? 15?

5-8 a game seems like a decent number to me. (in addition to scrambles)

I think that's reasonable but you have to have the threat. Once the Pack seen he wasn't running and the line was a turnsty they rushed every fukin play. He throws good on the run use it why have him throw a behind screen from the pocket makes no fukin sense. was horrible execution of shitty plays by a group who basically met on the bus on the way to the stadium. Just poorly handled no preseason of value with basically a new team and like I said wtf has Luke been telling this poor kid. Seriously him in the pocket is going to shorten his career faster than him running I believe that. Do we want a Andrew Luck situation for real?

 

[shoez90]

I see a completely different and confident thrower @run and shoot

Something doesnt ?right ?

Well if that's what works fuk the pocket passer mindset!! He can throw for 4,000 on the run but like I said there has to be a threat. If there's no threat there's no hope he is most dynamic runner/passer when allowed and they refuse flat out to use it simply mind blowing.

 

[run and shoot]

Yeah I analyzed the routes (see link below). I watched the full Qb school Analysis. JT scolded Getsy's game plan.

JF is still suffering from a lack of pass pro in addition to janky route design JT points this out Go to @24:44 and @25:07 in link
#67 (Justin Fields Week 1 vs Green Bay Analysis) There's no way I'd theow the ball into some of those route combinations

JT also scolded Fields for not throwing to open guys downfield. It is both.

Ok so no commentary on .....@24:44 and @25:07 in link #67 (Justin Fields Week 1 vs Green Bay Analysis) ???
And bad route combinations
I've mentioned the above several times. But ur gonna continue to drive by it ....right ???