TezMaKai
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Reality is not a plane of existence for whatever douchebag generation you identify with.
Depends on the script.
Reality is not a plane of existence for whatever douchebag generation you identify with.
Agreed. Biggest QB stats are yards, completion percentage, INT rate, and sacks. Go Bears!
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You avoided the football strategy question. You brought up routes and can't discuss them when questioned
Then you avoided the JF passing and running for TDs last season to the
tune of 30+ points / game. While the defense squandered leads.
Can you run the numbers and let me know how you got to 30+ppg from the bears last year....would love to see the attempted spin on that one.
And i haven't avoided anything....they give him quick hitting timing routes (he's not a timing passer)....they flood zones with 1-2 reads....and guys are either spaced poorly and/or fields doesn't throw it on time.
They give him deep crosses or outs and guy usually won't let it go in advance of seeing someone open.
If he played like he did vs wash/denver.....two pretty poor d.....vs those being one-offs; you'd have a different story....but he came out vs minn and looked exactly like he has his entire career...awful in the pass game and leading a disjointed offense.
You left out the INTS. Who threw more INTS
Thus far Bagent has an INT rate of 0.05 on 96 attempts - while Fields had an INT rate of 0.04 on 50 attempts. So - pretty equal all things considered - which is on par for any rookie QB really. So - it looks like equal in that category with Bagent the clear frontrunner in TDs, yards, and completion percentage.
There was a 7 game stretch last yr where JF put up 30 + points. The defense gave it back.
But I get it, You don't like JF as a Qb.....regardless of the positives. And there are specific routes that aren't used with JF.
U brought up routes , but refuse to discuss them by name. That's cool
First 3 games....Bagent threw more INTS. than JF. But you don't like JF. I get it
Bc Fields sucks. He's proven it over and over. It fucking sucks but he's ultimately the one responsible for letting the Bagent Mania run amuck.Like, do you know how messed up it is that Fields has managed 220+ passing yards SIX times in his entire career? Bagent has now done it twice in three starts. That's fucked up.
There was a 7 game stretch last yr where JF put up 30 + points. The defense gave it back.
But I get it, You don't like JF as a Qb.....regardless of the positives. And there are specific routes that aren't used with JF.
U brought up routes , but refuse to discuss them by name. That's cool
I think it was a 4 game stretch starting with the Patriots and ending with the Detroit game. They did put up 27 the following week against ATL tho.
That is like saying Mitch was on pace for 32 TDs after that TB game. Not a chance brother!On pace for over 4k yards and 37 touchdowns and 15 interceptions prior to the injury.
Don't bother. Nobody cares. Anybody can look up box scores from last year. Thanks budI wrote about when it happened. I'd have to look for it. There was a stretch where JF was a period where balling out but the D was faltering. Yeah....he was avg, 2-4 TDs / game. If I can find that post, I'll share it.
Dude, don't talk too much about fecal explosions. That gets runny shits excited.That is like saying Mitch was on pace for 32 TDs after that TB game. Not a chance brother!
Also, keep in mind that Fields biggest deficiencies as a QB directly correlate to his current injury status! Sacks result in the highest rate of injuries for QBs out of all play outcomes (obviously) and Fields, the most explosive athlete at the QB position in the NFL today (sorry Lamar), has an insanely high sack rate! How could the best athlete at the position get sacked so much? That is freaking bonkers brother!
So, even if he had been playing consistently great football in 2023 before the injury (lets face it - he was back to looking like a total fecal explosion against MIN just as he was before his two 15 minute of fame games) is that a guy who you'd invest into? He has missed time in all three seasons thus far.
First 3 games....Bagent threw more INTS. than JF. But you don't like JF. I get it
First 3 games...Bagent has thrown for more yards, more TDs, higher completion percentage, and less sacks.
To the bolded part - as the great Khabib Nurmagomedov would say "Brahther, this number 1 bullshit" - I like Fields - he is a good kid and freaking great athlete. He is going to make Taysom Hill seem like an afterthought to most once he settles into the right RB/WR/Slash role for an offense in the league. Hopefully ours next season brother!
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Hell yes brother - I am glad you seem to agree - and kudos to you for not taking that long to come around to looking at the stats and making the decision. I know it's tough when some of our favorite players completely fucking bust like Fields did - it gets pretty depressing but the coolest part for us Bears fans is we had a little football angel in Tyson Bagent show up at our front door. Go Bears!Bagent over JF as a Qb. I get it
Hell yes brother - I am glad you seem to agree - and kudos to you for not taking that long to come around to looking at the stats and making the decision. I know it's tough when some of our favorite players completely fucking bust like Fields did - it gets pretty depressing but the coolest part for us Bears fans is we had a little football angel in Tyson Bagent show up at our front door. Go Bears!
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Hell yes, I agree. As a matter of fact that I actually said that first. But no big deal let us not get caught up in the minutiae - I am just glad you agree with that."He is going to make Taysom Hill seem like an afterthought to most once he settles into the right RB/WR/Slash role for an offense in the league."
In theory yes.,....dude still needs to get rid of the ball and struggles with progression of route tree......he already had the longest time from snap to thrown in the leauge.
This is comical....you peopleThere was a 7 game stretch last yr where JF put up 30 + points. The defense gave it back.
But I get it, You don't like JF as a Qb.....regardless of the positives. And there are specific routes that aren't used with JF.
U brought up routes , but refuse to discuss them by name. That's cool
Clearly he can'tDon't bother. Nobody cares. Anybody can look up box scores from last year. Thanks bud
First 3 games...Bagent has thrown for more yards, more TDs, higher completion percentage, and less sacks.
To the bolded part - as the great Khabib Nurmagomedov would say "Brahther, this number 1 bullshit" - I like Fields - he is a good kid and freaking great athlete. He is going to make Taysom Hill seem like an afterthought to most once he settles into the right RB/WR/Slash role for an offense in the league. Hopefully ours next season brother!
BEAR DOWN
Hell yes, I agree. As a matter of fact that I actually said that first. But no big deal let us not get caught up in the minutiae - I am just glad you agree with that.
Hell yes, I agree. As a matter of fact that I actually said that first. But no big deal let us not get caught up in the minutiae - I am just glad you agree with that."He is going to make Taysom Hill seem like an afterthought to most once he settles into the right RB/WR/Slash role for an offense in the league."
First 3 games...Bagent has thrown for more yards, more TDs, higher completion percentage, and less sacks.
To the bolded part - as the great Khabib Nurmagomedov would say "Brahther, this number 1 bullshit" - I like Fields - he is a good kid and freaking great athlete. He is going to make Taysom Hill seem like an afterthought to most once he settles into the right RB/WR/Slash role for an offense in the league. Hopefully ours next season brother!
BEAR DOWN
That is like saying Mitch was on pace for 32 TDs after that TB game. Not a chance brother!
Also, keep in mind that Fields biggest deficiencies as a QB directly correlate to his current injury status! Sacks result in the highest rate of injuries for QBs out of all play outcomes (obviously) and Fields, the most explosive athlete at the QB position in the NFL today (sorry Lamar), has an insanely high sack rate! How could the best athlete at the position get sacked so much? That is freaking bonkers brother!
So, even if he had been playing consistently great football in 2023 before the injury (lets face it - he was back to looking like a total fecal explosion against MIN just as he was before his two 15 minute of fame games) is that a guy who you'd invest into? He has missed time in all three seasons thus far.