Fields vs Williams college stats compared

[pdxbearsfan]

it'll come down to the combine workouts. What stands out visually from Caleb vs Justin right off the bat is quickness of footwork dropping back in pocket and ball release speed.

Anthony Richardson was a surprise to go #4 overall . . . his combine work raised attention

Anthony Richardson is the most athletic quarterback prospect to ever test at the NFL Combine. Here’s why that matters.

Richardson blew the roof off the NFL Combine in Indianapolis two months ago with his measurements and athletic testing numbers.

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I doubt CW works out at the combine, will wait for his pro day.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

Stop with this meaningless garbage. What was the temperature and angle of the moon on game day?

 

[Canth]

I know I have said it before in other threads, but one of the big things that really jumps out to me about Caleb's stats is just how much more he threw the ball than most other prospects.

He basically started for most of the 3 years he played in college and it was a high volume passing attack offense. He has simply seen more looks and made more throws than most. And he did it at a very high level.

I also liked that his completion percentage went up a bit each year. Total yards and TD's were down his last year, but he also had 100 less attempts, so that seems to align.

 

[Les Grossman]

He’s a much better quarterback than Wilson or Lance, but the question is about whether Fields is the superior prospect to Williams. He’s not. Otherwise, he would’ve gone higher than #11.

It also doesn’t matter bc Fields is not a prospect anymore.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

If you want to know who your QB is before his 3rd year a good start would be to NOT wait for 3 years before getting him protection or targets!

Why would Williams be coming into such a great situation? Because we have 1 WR, 1 TE and 2 OTs. That is what Bears fans think is a great offensive situation for a QB.
If we leave it at that for Williams for 3 years he's not going to be good either.

I'm of the thought that the risk with staying Fields and building around him is too little too late. Not because he never could've been but that he's broken.
The risk with Williams or any other QB is the Bears wait and see again because saying a QB isn't lighting the world on fire because they don't have protection or targets is just an excuse.
Someone has to be feeding the fans these idiotic ideas.

He still ain’t it. Shit happens. Sometimes you’re not dealt the right cards. Sometimes some get lucky with everything around them. Some don’t. It’s the way of life. Doesn’t take away the bad things that JF has done. Fumbles, 4th quarter interceptions, missing defenders, etc. He’s had some good things too. But the bad outweigh the good. Just time to move on IMO. Even if it ain’t the popular choice for whatever reasons.

 

[run and shoot]

How much of it was attributable to Fields having a much better defense and not needing to the force the ball as much?

You'll notice Fields tanked in the NFL in known passing situations in the 4th quarter.

You avoid the getsy factor and the play not to lose ..4th qtr play calling

 

[run and shoot]

Jf is what he is, a mirage who thinks LeBron is better than mj

JF never witnessed Jordan. Most guys in their early to late 20's probably view LeBron. as the best they've seen

 

[Spitta Andretti]

You avoid the getsy factor and the play not to lose ..4th qtr play calling

More excuses

 

[bears5150]

Williams also played in the Pac-12 which is a weak conference for defenses. Im on the wagon for getting one of the best OT in the draft and get this OL fixed, keep Fields and let the cards fall where they may next year. Trade out of the first pick and pick up an extra first next year. I just don't see Williams as the answer.

 

[run and shoot]

You avoid the getsy factor and the play not to lose ..4th qtr play calling

More excuses

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

Considering you dont acknowledge Fields limitations and why Getsy calls what he calls in those situations. You have zero idea

One thing we do know is that its a thought around the league that the QB was more the issue than Getsy

 

[run and shoot]

You avoid the getsy factor and the play not to lose ..4th qtr play calling

More excuses

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

Considering you dont acknowledge Fields limitations and why Getsy calls what he calls in those situations. You have zero idea

One thing we do know is that its a thought around the league that the QB was more the issue than Getsy

SIGH.....It's frustrating when ppl dodge direct questions Lets do this again......

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

Yes or NO

 

[Canth]

Considering you dont acknowledge Fields limitations and why Getsy calls what he calls in those situations. You have zero idea

One thing we do know is that its a thought around the league that the QB was more the issue than Getsy

I think a lot of limitations in an offense become visible in the 4th quarter especially when everyone knows that the team has to throw the ball.

It's fair to say that not all those limitations were Fields. Clearly at times there were issues with protection, sometimes it would be a clear drop by the receiver, and other times, it was Fields. For whatever reason, the offense often just did not click in key situation and especially known passing situations.

Now having said that, Fields is/was integral to the offense struggling in those known passing situations.

I mean, just look at these situational stats from nfl.com. It's not a pretty picture. Again, I agree it's not all Fields, but...he owns a good chunk of it too.

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Key snapshots:

 

[Spitta Andretti]

SIGH.....It's frustrating when ppl dodge direct questions Lets do this again......

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

Yes or NO

Being ignorant isn't lying. But you're still wrong

 

[Spitta Andretti]

I think a lot of limitations in an offense become visible in the 4th quarter especially when everyone knows that the team has to throw the ball.

It's fair to say that not all those limitations were Fields. Clearly at times there were issues with protection, sometimes it would be a clear drop by the receiver, and other times, it was Fields. For whatever reason, the offense often just did not click in key situation and especially known passing situations.

Now having said that, Fields is/was integral to the offense struggling in those known passing situations.

I mean, just look at these situational stats from nfl.com. It's not a pretty picture. Again, I agree it's not all Fields, but...he owns a good chunk of it too.

NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League

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clearly this is all getsys fault

 

[DaaBears]

Free agency, trades and the draft cannot possibly come fast enough.

 

[run and shoot]

SIGH.....It's frustrating when ppl dodge direct questions Lets do this again......

Did I lie about the 4th qtr play calling ??? Yes or NO

Yes or NO

Being ignorant isn't lying. But you're still wrong

What's ignorant about the statement below??? Poor play calling has happened in the 4th qrt.

run and shoot said:

You avoid the getsy factor and the play not to lose ..4th qtr play calling

 

[run and shoot]

Being ignorant isn't lying. But you're still wrong

I guess Eberflus is being "ignorant" with his statement below. It's a indirect swipe at getsy.

From the article:

Did Matt Eberflus call out former Chicago Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy?​

"Being creative, you want to be curious, to make the scheme go with the skillset that we have. Being adaptable. You got to be able to adapt. During the course of a season, you are going to have injuries at times. You are going to have different skill sets in there. In-game adaptability. You got to be able to have in-game tactics. Being a leader. Being a teacher."
- Matt Eberflus, Chicago Bears HC

 

[truthbedamned]

Considering you dont acknowledge Fields limitations and why Getsy calls what he calls in those situations. You have zero idea

One thing we do know is that its a thought around the league that the QB was more the issue than Getsy

Link?

 

[Toast88]

At one point, the Pac 12 had 5 teams in the top 12. They had a team make the national title game and another team beat the shit out of a highly ranked Big 12 team in Oklahoma in a bowl game, and yet somehow the Pac 12 sucks.

If the SEC has a season like the Pac 12 did last year, everyone talks about how great a season it was for the SEC. Not saying the Pac 12 is as good, but it’s not bad competition like some people parrot.