I mean, yeah, I honestly do think we're discounting how hard it is to project success in the pros for a QB and how lucky you have to be to find a hit. We absolutely suck at developing an offense in general, but there is a lot on the QB himself to be that catalyst for change.
What I am saying is that QBs do not do this by themselves.
Even in the teams you mentioned, only the Packers have been this unicorn of QB development with two Hall of Famers and now a wait-and-see guy in Love. LaFleur is clearly a great coach and can scheme around his guys as well as anyone, as hard as it is to admit.
Wanna Guess who got there when that first Hall of Famer came through the door? Andrew Walter Reid.
He took Brett Favre and developed him after Atlanta cast him off.
The 49ers in the last 15 years burned through the developmental years of #1 overall Alex Smith, high 2nd round pick Colin Kaepernick, and most recently 3rd overall pick Trey Lance. They absolutely lucked out that their 7th rounder was a dude that can play.
Is it luck that the 7th round guy can play? Or maybe Kyle Shanahan is a great coach. He has gone to two Super Bowls with Jimmy Garrapalo and Brock Purdy
The Patriots are now trying out their second 1st rounder in 4 years after lucking out for two decades that a 6th rounder became the GOAT.
Yes But that 6th rounder played back up to a guy that was already a pro bowl QB in Drew Bledsoe
Aint it amazing how these franchises can have multiple probowl qbs back to back while the bears have had only one in 40 years
The dynamic on the Chiefs totally changed the moment Mahomes stepped on the field. Same with Bengals and Burrow, and Bills with Allen.
Of course you give ALL the credit to Mahomes. As great as he is, guess who was the guy who jumped UP to draft him....Andrew Walter Reid.
The same guy who developed Donovan Mcnabb into a borderline hall of famer and got some very good years out of Alex Smith after he was cast off as you mentioned.
Buffalo fans were ready to launch Allen into the sun as a bust midway through his 2nd season. Brian Daboll developed him into the guy you see now. Then turned around and got Daniel Jones to a pro bowl. Bears should have backed the Brinks truck up to hire him instead we got Ebergoof. Maybe we should see who helped develop Burrow and target some of those guys.
Meanwhile the Rams gave up on Goff, the Eagles gave up on Wentz, etc.
Wentz is wentz, no argument there.
However Sean Mcvay took two different qbs to Super Bowls and Goff was one of them.
Reid, Mcvay, and Shanahan have taken and developed QBs. And have taken Mutliple QBs on deep playoff runs and to Super Bowls
My point is that Great coaches can make average talent into good Qbs and Good talent in to Great.
Bad coaches waste good talent and ruin it.
If the Bears want to develop a franchise quarterback then they need to get coaches in here who's sole goal is to develop quarterbacks. Not glorified DCs and shade tree OCs who want to show how smart they are and how massive their playbook is. Otherwise in three years we will be saying the same thing about Caleb Willams that was said about Mitchell Trubisky, Justin Fields and Jay Cutler. And the cycle continues.