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A bit fatalistic though. She saw what happened when she made Gendry Lord of Storms End.

Best way for her to have the people love her was to allow the surender, promote and reward those that fought for her and rule fairly.

It is like she turned intona millennial overnight expect instant gratification type love and loyalty.
You don't understand man, we're all snowflakes.
 

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Oh, now you want to be in the GOT world while you trying to to say logistics of war in the real world. I cant keep up with you. I know burned down guys who dont bend the knee has no affect on their children. Only if she burns them herself. Yet again. they foreshadowed this forever and you still have issues cause you basically created your own story.

What are you talking about? This show is clearly set in a medieval world and my discussion of logistics of war is based on basic fundamentals of warfare that exist in a medieval type setting and ones they have used on the show previously when it was Martin who had written the battles.

2nd, if you kill a murderer, it has an effect on their children but not sure your point. They get killed because they are a murderer. This would be like you claiming that because a government punishes criminals, it is perfectly logical once they start murdering kids.

The Tarley's waged war against Dany and then refused to bend the knee. By the laws of Westeroos, she was completely justified in killing them which is why no one including Jon freaked out about it. She could have shown mercy but not doing so is not really that unusual for this world. Jon and others will freak out about this precisely because what she did was not in keeping with the laws of Westeroos.

When Robert Baratheon became King, he would have killed Jon. By your logic, it now means that Robert eating children for breakfast would be ok since he was shown previously trying to kill the Mad King's children. That is absurd. He would have killed Jon because Jon would be a political risk. Just like Dany killed the Tarleys because they were a political risk being enemies who refused to yield even in defeat. Damn near every single monarch in the 7 Kingdoms would have considered or done the same. That bears no resemblance to just wantonly burning kids for shits and giggles.

It is patently absurd to use legal and justified actions that damn near every political player would do as a means to suggest a descent into mass murder of children is in character.
 

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What are you talking about? This show is clearly set in a medieval world and my discussion of logistics of war is based on basic fundamentals of warfare that exist in a medieval type setting and ones they have used on the show previously when it was Martin who had written the battles.

2nd, if you kill a murderer, it has an effect on their children but not sure your point. They get killed because they are a murderer. This would be like you claiming that because a government punishes criminals, it is perfectly logical once they start murdering kids.

The Tarley's waged war against Dany and then refused to bend the knee. By the laws of Westeroos, she was completely justified in killing them which is why no one including Jon freaked out about it. She could have shown mercy but not doing so is not really that unusual for this world. Jon and others will freak out about this precisely because what she did was not in keeping with the laws of Westeroos.

When Robert Baratheon became King, he would have killed Jon. By your logic, it now means that Robert eating children for breakfast would be ok since he was shown previously trying to kill the Mad King's children. That is absurd. He would have killed Jon because Jon would be a political risk. Just like Dany killed the Tarleys because they were a political risk being enemies who refused to yield even in defeat. Damn near every single monarch in the 7 Kingdoms would have considered or done the same. That bears no resemblance to just wantonly burning kids for shits and giggles.

It is patently absurd to use legal and justified actions that damn near every political player would do as a means to suggest a descent into mass murder of children is in character.
So, which way should I bring in my Dragon when I am facing a fleet?
 

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So, which way should I bring in my Dragon when I am facing a fleet?

Amazing how in one episode Dany's dumbass tries to attack Euron's fleet head on instead of flying around the back but then in this episode she magically attacks the Golden Company from behind.

So this has nothing to do with real world tactics. There is no logical reason for Dany to attack from behind one week but then try and attack head on the other week as if she just magically read a copy of Sun Tzu during the week. You trying to make it about me trying to bring real world tactics in this when the simple fact is the characters go from tactical geniuses to flaming idiots within a single episode.

Also no logical reason for Euron to hit a flying target with 3 scorpion bolts in a manner of seconds and then magically the next 1000 shots can't hit Dany at all. Guess his +150 precision buff was only good for one episode.
 

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Amazing how in one episode Dany's dumbass tries to attack Euron's fleet head on instead of flying around the back but then in this episode she magically attacks the Golden Company from behind.

So this has nothing to do with real world tactics. There is no logical reason for Dany to attack from behind one week but then try and attack head on the other week as if she just magically read a copy of Sun Tzu during the week. You trying to make it about me trying to bring real world tactics in this when the simple fact is the characters go from tactical geniuses to flaming idiots within a single episode.

Also no logical reason for Euron to hit a flying target with 3 scorpion bolts in a manner of seconds and then magically the next 1000 shots can't hit Dany at all. Guess his +150 precision buff was only good for one episode.

Dumb and dumber made a show of shock and subversion. If you are into no story line just a bunch of shit getting graphically fucked up it’s a satisfying season. If you are into more in depth stuff that stopped three seasons ago
 

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Dumb and dumber made a show of shock and subversion. If you are into no story line just a bunch of shit getting graphically fucked up it’s a satisfying season. If you are into more in depth stuff that stopped three seasons ago
Lulz.
 

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Amazing how in one episode Dany's dumbass tries to attack Euron's fleet head on instead of flying around the back but then in this episode she magically attacks the Golden Company from behind.

So this has nothing to do with real world tactics. There is no logical reason for Dany to attack from behind one week but then try and attack head on the other week as if she just magically read a copy of Sun Tzu during the week. You trying to make it about me trying to bring real world tactics in this when the simple fact is the characters go from tactical geniuses to flaming idiots within a single episode.

Also no logical reason for Euron to hit a flying target with 3 scorpion bolts in a manner of seconds and then magically the next 1000 shots can't hit Dany at all. Guess his +150 precision buff was only good for one episode.
So, I need to reference the Patton Papers when I watch a show about Dragons and magic.
 

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I love how we suddenly have to sacrifice excellent storytelling because there are "dragons and magic."
 

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So, I need to reference the Patton Papers when I watch a show about Dragons and magic.

No you need to think about what you watched last episode and what you watched this episode and think about whether the character's tactical sense or abilities has somehow significantly changed over a single episode. Dany goes from idiot to tactical genius in one episode. Euron goes from Hawkeye to Stevie Wonder in terms of marksmanship over a single episode.

I am shocked the previous 7 seasons didn't overwhelm you with the quality of the writing and character progression as it is obvious you appear to not care about those things. I get it, you love spectacle. To each his own.
 

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Snapping implies a decision made on impulse in the heat of the moment. This was not a snap. The way it was written, Dany did not go crazy when Missandei died. She was upset but still rational like when she told Tyrion she would relent if they rang the bells.

Further, people that snap and take it out on innocent people would generally do so because they can't get to the actual cause of their pain. Like Terrorists who can't get at the leaders that they hate so they kill innocent people instead.

By contrast, Dany had the object of all her pain and rage in front of her as she knew for a fact where Cersei was and instead decides to delay punishing the one person she needs to punish so she could brutally murder children.

It would be like a Jew having Hitler in his sights and instead deciding to kill a bunch of German potato farmers while given Hitler ample time to escape.

So her snapping could make sense if they actually didn't set it up where she snaps at innocent people while Cersei is right there for the murdering. As it stands, she just got lucky that Cersei was delayed from escaping.
Wrong. That's a "snap decision", which is not what I was talking about. I'm talking about a series of traumatic events leading to Dany "snapping", as in losing her shit. Two completely different things. Damn, you like to argue; do you ever think before you go into full arguing mode, or do you just let it flow? Kind of annoying.
 

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I love how we suddenly have to sacrifice excellent storytelling because there are "dragons and magic."
And I love how everyone suddenly has to be a scriptwriter or critic because a huge budget show is finishing things up too quickly. Jesus, people, get over yourselves. If you were so good, you'd be raking in millions putting this shit together right now, and they'd be pissing into the void on a message board. There is literally no way these guys could have pleased more than 25% of the people at once, especially given the time frame they're finishing up in. Maybe that's their fault, maybe it's HBO's - who knows. Either enjoy it or don't, but let's slow down on the tearing someone's creative process apart because they took on an impossible job and it's not to your particular liking. It sounds so pretentious.

Does anyone here want to discuss the remainder of the series rather than shit on everything? I'd love to hear from you if so...
 

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And I love how everyone suddenly has to be a scriptwriter or critic because a huge budget show is finishing things up too quickly. Jesus, people, get over yourselves. If you were so good, you'd be raking in millions putting this shit together right now, and they'd be pissing into the void on a message board. There is literally no way these guys could have pleased more than 25% of the people at once, especially given the time frame they're finishing up in. Maybe that's their fault, maybe it's HBO's - who knows. Either enjoy it or don't, but let's slow down on the tearing someone's creative process apart because they took on an impossible job and it's not to your particular liking. It sounds so pretentious.

Does anyone here want to discuss the remainder of the series rather than shit on everything? I'd love to hear from you if so...
Nope, they want to read spoilers then get mad at said spoiler being right.
 

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No you need to think about what you watched last episode and what you watched this episode and think about whether the character's tactical sense or abilities has somehow significantly changed over a single episode. Dany goes from idiot to tactical genius in one episode. Euron goes from Hawkeye to Stevie Wonder in terms of marksmanship over a single episode.

I am shocked the previous 7 seasons didn't overwhelm you with the quality of the writing and character progression as it is obvious you appear to not care about those things. I get it, you love spectacle. To each his own.
I watched a beautiful episode of human emotion.
 

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I love how we suddenly have to sacrifice excellent storytelling because there are "dragons and magic."
Sacrifice? Its a tv show. You are legit upset because they didnt fulfill your story needs
 

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Nope, they want to read spoilers then get mad at said spoiler being right.
This is 1000% right. So sick that some douches on the internet can't just let people enjoy things without wrecking it for them via giving them spoilers. What kind of mental makeup does a person like that have? Assholes.
 

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And I love how everyone suddenly has to be a scriptwriter or critic because a huge budget show is finishing things up too quickly. Jesus, people, get over yourselves. If you were so good, you'd be raking in millions putting this shit together right now, and they'd be pissing into the void on a message board. There is literally no way these guys could have pleased more than 25% of the people at once, especially given the time frame they're finishing up in. Maybe that's their fault, maybe it's HBO's - who knows. Either enjoy it or don't, but let's slow down on the tearing someone's creative process apart because they took on an impossible job and it's not to your particular liking. It sounds so pretentious.

Does anyone here want to discuss the remainder of the series rather than shit on everything? I'd love to hear from you if so...

Lol, so no one is allowed to criticize because we aren't writers. Thats some funny shit. If they didn't want the criticism, they should've put something out on par with the previous seasons.
 

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Sacrifice? Its a tv show. You are legit upset because they didnt fulfill your story needs
No shit, because telling the story is their legit job. How does that escape you?
 

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