Garza Trade Reaction Thread

[Jntg4]

Now that the shock has calmed down, and we know the whole trade, and it's official, post your final reaction here.

Mine's coming up.

 

[X]

It's been a successful off-season. We're still a couple pieces away, but our pitching is solid, our bullpen is better, and if Pena can hit .260 w/ his normal power, we will have fixed first base.

Still need to get rid of Fuku and Colvin, imo...for a guy that can hit regardless of who is pitching...but I'm satisfied w/ the off-season, when things seemed bleak at first.

 

[Jntg4]

Archer - Garza Replaces him I guess, and there was little room for him AND McNutt in the rotation anyway.
Lee - 2B aren's hard to find, and I like Castro at SS. I'm fine with DeWitt until the deadline or the offseason.
Guyer - With Szczur picking baseball apparently, I don't care much. Sori will still be here until 2014 anyway. And Byrd till 2012, and we have Colvin, Jackson, and Szczur ahead of him anyway.
Chirinos - We have Geo and Castillo bahead of him. Only downside is that he was key to an O'Day deal.
Fuld - Who gives a shit?

Garza - No ace, but decent for a #2, good for a #3.
Perez - Wrote "The Fabulous Bastards", and he has a chance to rebound his career and get back to where he was as a prospect.
Rosscup - Never played above A-, so we'll see.

 

[Jntg4]

So, I guess I like the trade now that I've analyzed it more.

 

[Jntg4]

It's been a successful off-season. We're still a couple pieces away, but our pitching is solid, our bullpen is better, and if Pena can hit .260 w/ his normal power, we will have fixed first base.

Still need to get rid of Fuku and Colvin, imo...for a guy that can hit regardless of who is pitching...but I'm satisfied w/ the off-season, when things seemed bleak at first.

Hendry said he won't trade Colvin. But then again, he said that about Archer too.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

The only think I'm bummed about is that Sam Fuld was traded. Which is an odd thing to say, I know, but he was incredibly exciting to watch. He always hustled and although he would never hit for quite the power, I would have liked to see him play LF in 2013 after Fonzie's contract expires.

I think if Garza gets 13-14 wins and stays healthy, it's not a bad deal at all.

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

Archer - Garza Replaces him I guess, and there was little room for him AND McNutt in the rotation anyway.
Lee - 2B aren's hard to find, and I like Castro at SS. I'm fine with DeWitt until the deadline or the offseason.
Guyer - With Szczur picking baseball apparently, I don't care much. Sori will still be here until 2014 anyway. And Byrd till 2012, and we have Colvin, Jackson, and Szczur ahead of him anyway.
Chirinos - We have Geo and Castillo bahead of him. Only downside is that he was key to an O'Day deal.
Fuld - Who gives a shit?

Garza - No ace, but decent for a #2, good for a #3.
Perez - Wrote "The Fabulous Bastards", and he has a chance to rebound his career and get back to where he was as a prospect.
Rosscup - Never played above A-, so we'll see.

:gtfo:

 

[Jntg4]

:gtfo:

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

You get a thanks because I lol'd at the rubix cube cat.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

 

[daddies3angels]

I said from the begginging i liked this dea. With Cubs even getting 22 y/o LHP in deal makes it better.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Hendry said he won't trade Colvin. But then again, he said that about Archer too.

Did he say he wouldn't trade Archer? I don't recall.

The only think I'm bummed about is that Sam Fuld was traded. Which is an odd thing to say, I know, but he was incredibly exciting to watch. He always hustled and although he would never hit for quite the power, I would have liked to see him play LF in 2013 after Fonzie's contract expires.

I think if Garza gets 13-14 wins and stays healthy, it's not a bad deal at all.

No. No. No. No. No.

 

[Jntg4]

Did he say he wouldn't trade Archer? I don't recall.


No. No. No. No. No.

lol, Sori's contract goes through 2014.

And he said the following wouldn't be traded before:
Castro
later he added
Cashner
then he later added
Colvin
then later yet again he added
Archer and
Jackson

 

[Captain Obvious]

lol, Sori's contract goes through 2014.

And he said the following wouldn't be traded before:
Castro
later he added
Cashner
then he later added
Colvin
then later yet again he added
Archer and
Jackson

Linkage?

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

Wait. 2015. Seriously?

FUUUUUU.

Where was I getting 2012 then? End of the world?

What's wrong with 14 wins out of Garza? This is keeping in mind that for a very large portion of last season, the Cubs couldn't pay to score a runner in scoring position.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Wait. 2015. Seriously?

FUUUUUU.

Where was I getting 2012 then? End of the world?

What's wrong with 14 wins out of Garza? This is keeping in mind that for a very large portion of last season, the Cubs couldn't pay to score a runner in scoring position.

The fact that you used wins.

 

[DewsSox79]

The fact that you used wins.

wins will play a role in his arb, that is for sure. they arent used to judge a pitchers talent, but say he wins 20 games with a 4.09 ERA...he still will get paid well. cub fans better hope he has an off year this year

 

[EnjoyYourTiger]

The fact that you used wins.

So what, just look at ERA, K/9 and BB/9 then?

I get that wins aren't a completely accurate depiction of how a pitcher's season is, but it's the most tangible thing to look at.

 

[Capt. Serious]

I said from the begginging i liked this dea. With Cubs even getting 22 y/o LHP in deal makes it better.

Uh, the dude was a throw in.

 

[Captain Obvious]

So what, just look at ERA, K/9 and BB/9 then?

I get that wins aren't a completely accurate depiction of how a pitcher's season is, but it's the most tangible thing to look at.

No, it's not. Wins do not show how a pitcher pitched. It showed how the team did. A pitcher can get 20 wins with a 5.00 ERA. Does that make him good? Or does that make him lucky? A pitcher can get 5 wins with a 3.00 ERA. Does that make him bad? Or does that make him lucky?