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Or he could have just left. Crazy how effective just fucking leaving can be.
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Or he could have just left. Crazy how effective just fucking leaving can be.
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The problem with guns.
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Well, there is the whole idea of disproportionate force...
From the shooters perspective, what kind of dipship sociopath is willing to live with taking a person's life, a person with kids, cause he was following him around and invading his space? Personally, I am not willing to live with that.
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Looked like his first defense was to pull his weapon as he already had it out when they entered the frame. How hard is it to walk away, sorry bro but your not a cop and you only further agitated the guy by trying to get his plate number.
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When the guy left best just to let him go. The issue was over.
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This guy apparently....
How about if this went differently and the guy with the gun chose not to draw it and the drunk guy beat him to death.... would any one of you guys not be saying "Bro why carry a gun if ur not gonna use it?".
The outrage over this drunk dipshit getting himself shot is hilarious to me.
Should he have died? No.... Did he bring it entirely on himself? Yes
The man was an adult who decided to attack a dude with a gun, he got shot like a fucking moron.
We have a gun violence problem in the country, I won't deny that.... but we also have a responsibility problem in this country.... you are responsible for your actions.... if you attack a firearm carrying person and get shot, that is on you.
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Except he didn't bring it entirely on himself. He walked out the store and this toy cop decided he was going to follow him to get his license.
The dude was a drunk fuck. There was no need to put 3 in his chest. A trained firearms instructor should be able to at a minimum shoot this drunk fuck in the leg. 3 in the chest is ridiculous.
The dude was a drunk fuck. There was no need to put 3 in his chest. A trained firearms instructor should be able to at a minimum shoot this drunk fuck in the leg. 3 in the chest is ridiculous.
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This is a good point.
or he tries to pistol whip the guy who takes his gun and kills everybody.
Weapon training always teaches center mass which this guy did.
Leg shooting is BS Hollywood crap.
At any rate... he should have just let him drive away.
It never should have happened.
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When a giant army veteran comes swinging at you in a corner and you think to shoot him in the leg, let me know. I do agree that it wasn't the guy's business and he shouldn't have followed him to get the plate number.
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Just because that's what it teaches doesn't mean it's right in all situations. I don't see how center mass is appropriate for a guy that was such a threat that he allowed you to push him like 15 times and no actual scuffle or fight ensued.
The dude was not swinging at him. He was being aggressive but clearly it wasn't that big a threat because he literally pushes the dude off like 15 times with one hand before finally shooting him. If a giant army veteran had really been swinging on him, he would not have done that.
Not to mention, it's at point blank range. If you are a trained firearms instructor and you can't shoot a dude in the leg from that distance then you fucking suck. Not to mention the dude is moving slow enough for you to once again push him like 15 times.
P.S. I am not even exaggerating. He literally pushes the guy back like 15 times before shooting him. This would have to be the slowest attack ever orchestrated by an army vet.
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Except for the fact he wasn't a giant, wasn't swinging and was easily pushed back by 1 armed shoves. This drunk posed absolutely no threat to anyone's life. The guy who shot him should spend a lot of time in jail for at least manslaughter. I hope karma rains down heavily on the pussy.
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I agree. Most every fight in history begins with more aggression than this altercation. With that being said if any people on this board have ever been in a fight in your life, by using this film as a guide, could have shot your aggressor or been shot yourself had you been the aggressor. That would mean many on this board would be murderers and a handful would be dead..
Could certainly make for more interesting conversation than mock drafts I would assume..
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The drunk fuck was heading for his car.... it probably wasn't a bad idea to get his license plate and call it into the Cops right?
Not once did the guy with the firearm initiate violence with this dude, he was holding back for a long fucking time before he chose to use his weapon.
I wish the dude with the gun didn't have it and just beat the fuk outta the drunk guy, but he had his gun and had legal right to use it to defend himself.
I am not seeing what he did wrong in this situation? What crime do you want him charged with that you think could be brought before a Judge/Jury and get him convicted for?
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Just kinda gotta point something out here.
If some drunk assbag is getting all up in my grill, I'm not going to ask them whether or not they have a wife and kids so I can decide an appropriate level of force. I don't think anyone will.
I don't think the shooters actions were justified at all, but let's be real here--maybe, just maybe the drunkard should have thought about the fact that he's a father and not acted like a complete dickweed that at best, gets him sent away from his kids in the drunk tank and at worst (like what happened) got his ass killed.
It's 2016 FFS. The world has plenty of dipshit sociopaths out there on hair triggers waiting for justification. You go around beating your chest, drunk or not, and you risk setting them off--and whether or not they're charged with manslaughter or justifiable homicide makes little difference to the kids who are without a father because their father decided to get drunk and act like a schoolyard bully.
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Did he really have to go outside like a spaz to get the license plate #? And for what, at that point the drunk hadn't laid a finger on him. Clerk could have gotten plate # from camera. The car was parked right by the door ffs, could have see. It from inside the store as well. Guy feeling bold w/gun just wanted to extend this.
And at what point of being shoved do you say to yourself, wow one of these shoves could kill me, I better use deadly force?
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