Gorzelanny to Washington

[poodski]

Its about what I figured we would get. Three low level prospects. Seems very similar to the DeRosa deal.

I still think the Cubs as a whole are worse off now than they were prior to the Garza trade.

 

[Jntg4]

Its about what I figured we would get. Three low level prospects. Seems very similar to the DeRosa deal.

I still think the Cubs as a whole are worse off now than they were prior to the Garza trade.

Agreed.
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[waldo7239117]

Graham Hicks

Yeah I knew that, I was just saying. I found that out yesterday.

 

[Northside_slugger]

Its about what I figured we would get. Three low level prospects. Seems very similar to the DeRosa deal.

I still think the Cubs as a whole are worse off now than they were prior to the Garza trade.

I am not sure they are very low level. They dropped in the past year due to lack of development but the OF was a 1st round pick just a few years ago and the pitcher was a 4th round pick. They must have undeveloped skill it's just up to our coaching staff to see if they can get it out of them.

 

[zack54attack]

I'd take my chance with 3 prospects rather than have Gorz win 4-5 games this season..

 

[Captain Obvious]

I'd take my chance with 3 prospects rather than have Gorz win 4-5 games this season..

Wins for a pitcher are stupid. Go ahead and stop using them. Now.

 

[Jntg4]

Wins for a pitcher are stupid. Go ahead and stop using them. Now.

He wasn't even really... oh my God.

 

[Captain Obvious]

I called this type of post from you before the spects were even announced. haha. too funny CO! so predictable.

How is it not a great trade? We got a DeRosa type return for our 6th starter.

 

[Jntg4]

How is it not a great trade? We got a DeRosa type return for our 6th starter.

He meant the Jimbo part.

 

[Captain Obvious]

He meant the Jimbo part.

Okay, so? It was a great trade, made by a GM who has a track record of making really good trades.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Okay, so? It was a great trade, made by a GM who has a track record of making really good trades.

.500 team for this year would be an accurate prediction IMHO.

 

[Lefty]

Okay, so? It was a great trade, made by a GM who has a track record of making really good trades.

Let's not go overboard, CO. Hendry sold the farm to bring in Matt Garza (more on that in a bit), a very decent, 27-year old #2 starter, but then sell off salary-controlled depth from the bullpen/rotation to get back prospects, only one of which has made it out of A-ball? I wouldn't say it's a bad trade by any means, but it isn't "great" by any stretch of the imagination, either.

And "track record of making really good trades"? Really? Have you bothered to look at, oh I don't know, the last big trade made by the Cubs, as well as what lesser prospective value has bought another club in the same division? Yeah, totally playing the market on that one.

 

[ChiSportsRich]

Let's not go overboard, CO. Hendry sold the farm to bring in Matt Garza (more on that in a bit), a very decent, 27-year old #2 starter, but then sell off salary-controlled depth from the bullpen/rotation to get back prospects, only one of which has made it out of A-ball? I wouldn't say it's a bad trade by any means, but it isn't "great" by any stretch of the imagination, either.

And "track record of making really good trades"? Really? Have you bothered to look at, oh I don't know, the last big trade made by the Cubs, as well as what lesser prospective value has bought another club in the same division? Yeah, totally playing the market on that one.

C'mon Lefty didnt you get the memo, Hendry is the greatest GM EVER!!!

 

[FirstTimer]

Let's not go overboard, CO. Hendry sold the farm to bring in Matt Garza (more on that in a bit:

Sold the farm?

Lee is a nice prospect who was playing A ball last year. Lots or potential but who knows.

Archer had a hell of a season last year at AA and is the biggest loss of the trade but you gave up a pitcher to get a proven pitcher at the major league level.

Chirinos has been in the minors for 9 seasons and is a career .260 hitter there he's also 26 years old. Soto isn't going anywhere so Chirinos was basically an asset(especially to Tampa) in AAA that was very tradable because of Soto being in the majors. Also, the Cubs like Wellington Castillo and Mike Brenly who are currently only 23.

Guyer is also another nice player but hasn't played above AA and the Cubs do have OF depth in the minors.

Fuld is small, grindy, and bad.

The Cubs gave up some nice prospects but didn't "sell the farm". Obviously you can say they might have given up too much but it was far from blowing up the minor league system to do so.

 

[Lefty]

Sold the farm?

Lee is a nice prospect who was playing A ball last year. Lots or potential but who knows.

Archer had a hell of a season last year at AA and is the biggest loss of the trade but you gave up a pitcher to get a proven pitcher at the major league level.

Chirinos has been in the minors for 9 seasons and is a career .260 hitter there he's also 26 years old. Soto isn't going anywhere so Chirinos was basically an asset(especially to Tampa) in AAA that was very tradable because of Soto being in the majors. Also, the Cubs like Wellington Castillo and Mike Brenly who are currently only 23.

Guyer is also another nice player but hasn't played above AA and the Cubs do have OF depth in the minors.

Fuld is small, grindy, and bad.

The Cubs gave up some nice prospects but didn't "sell the farm". Obviously you can say they might have given up too much but it was far from blowing up the minor league system to do so.

Fine, semantics aside, they gave up way too much to get Matt fucking Garza, and everyone got to watch as the Brewers went and got Zack Greinke with much, much less.

 

[FirstTimer]

Fine, semantics aside, they gave up way too much to get Matt fucking Garza, and everyone got to watch as the Brewers went and got Zack Greinke with much, much less.

Yeah. "Semantics". It's not like I misquoted you. Or that you alluded to having "more" to back up your statement. You made a statement implying the Cubs gave up a bevy of highly rated and sure fire prospects. They didn't. You claimed to have "more" on that later but instead decide to do nothing more than post and say I got hung up on semantics.

It's no tlike I took you literally and said "OMGZERSS THE CUBZ STILL HAVE TE MINOR LEAGUERSZ THEY DIDNT GIVE UP TH FAMRSZ!"

I was obviosuly disagreeing with your assesment of the talent/players the Cubs gave up.

Nice work.

Still not sure how the Cubs gave up too much to get Matt Garza when the only MLB player they even traded away was Sam Fuld. The other guys may never even see the big leagues. No one will be able to acurrately evaluate this trade for years to see what the Cubs actually gave up.

All we know now is that they didn't trade a bunch of their top prospects for Garza. The Cubs didn't sell the farm.

 

[DewsSox79]

Fine, semantics aside, they gave up way too much to get Matt fucking Garza, and everyone got to watch as the Brewers went and got Zack Greinke with much, much less.

That is what i have been saying the whole fucking time, but all i get back is that greinke has an anxiety disorder and cant pitch in a big market from these guys.

glad to see you posting!

 

[Capt. Serious]

Let's not go overboard, CO. Hendry sold the farm to bring in Matt Garza (more on that in a bit), a very decent, 27-year old #2 starter, but then sell off salary-controlled depth from the bullpen/rotation to get back prospects, only one of which has made it out of A-ball? I wouldn't say it's a bad trade by any means, but it isn't "great" by any stretch of the imagination, either.

And "track record of making really good trades"? Really? Have you bothered to look at, oh I don't know, the last big trade made by the Cubs, as well as what lesser prospective value has bought another club in the same division? Yeah, totally playing the market on that one.

Lefty ftw...:clap:

 

[FirstTimer]

That is what i have been saying the whole fucking time, but all i get back is that greinke has an anxiety disorder and cant pitch in a big market from these guys.

glad to see you posting!

Obviously the Cubs would have rather had Greinke( I hope) but it's possible they weren't willing to give up the prospects needed to get him as I would imagine they would have had to give up more to get Greinke than they did to get Garza.

 

[wadedog21]

Show me in the rules of baseball where it says that we have to have a LHP in the rotation.

I think the only rule on this is probably unwritten. Managers are always trying to find a left handed starter or two to fill their rotation.