Grade the Round 2 Picks

[Washington]

B- to me.

In a draft loaded with DEs, a huge weakness on the Bears and a very tough position to fill, they reach for TE2 at 10 and then take WR3 at 39. Great, CW has weapons, now he better get WAY better at hitting them downfield something he sucked at last year. Note, I am a CW fan but damn, his inaccuracies were not expected. Hopefully, they can be corrected. Everything falls on his shoulders now.

I am OK with Trapilo because he has experience at both LT and RT. I am guessing there will be a competition between him and Kiran to replace Jones next year with the other going to swing tackle. I expect Trapilo to win that and if he ends up better than Jones (that can't be too hard to do), that improves the grade.

I am OK with Turner too because of the passion he plays with and his burst. He did have 6 sacks in '23 and the stress fracture set him back in '24. They have to pray the stress fracture is resolved. Another injured player drafted high.

Still very disappointed they did not address DE which is a glaring need. I expect a RB today and lots are still available.

I think Poles was surprised when Banks went at 9 and I think the same with the OSU RBs in round 2. I believe that played a role in how this draft played out for him.

Big time kudos to Baltimore for taking Green. He will be a star and other teams will look back and wonder why they passed on him. Baltimore also added the best S in the draft in round 1.

 

[--CyBear--]

You draft enough weapons so teams have to account for everyone in most formations.

Its a tough concept for Bears fans to understand when management tries have more than 2 good players on offense

This and if the O can actually stay on the field, you keep your weapons fresh and more effective with rotations, without tipping your play calls.

 

[Runruffshod75]

If they move Darnell Wright to LT, and I hope they do, then I give them a B+ for day 2.

I don't know why so many fans are upset that the Bears took a SLOT when it is clearly a central piece to what Johnsons offense is trying to accomplish

I'm not worried about his hand size when NFL WRS all have stick tack all over their gloves anyway. His route running could improve but if he's a primary SLOT I'm not as concerned about that as others. Your not going to be asking him to run alot of deep Fades and Posts. He's going to be asked to primarily run a ton of slants, swing routes, hitches, bubble screens and underneath crossing patterns & wheel routes where he will thrive. I love watching Burden once he has the ball in his hands.

I don't know enough about Ozzy. I'm not worried about plugging a second round pick into the RT position. LT would be a different story. Darnell Wright is developing into a balanced OT who I think is ready to take a step up at LT.

I like Stewart alot. I hope they get his weight to around 295 and kick him to your primary 3TECH position and move him around in various sub packs. I think Stewart will become.the best 3TECH on the roster. Stewart reminds me of Greg Hardy.

I give them a B+ for day 2 and a C+ on the draft as a whole so far.

 

[ndgt10]

If they move Darnell Wright to LT, and I hope they do, then I give them a B+ for day 2.

I don't know why so many fans are upset that the Bears took a SLOT when it is clearly a central piece to what Johnsons offense is trying to accomplish

I'm not worried about his hand size when NFL WRS all have stick tack all over their gloves anyway. His route running could improve but if he's a primary SLOT I'm not as concerned about that as others. Your not going to be asking him to run alot of deep Fades and Posts. He's going to be asked to primarily run a ton of slants, swing routes, hitches, bubble screens and underneath crossing patterns & wheel routes where he will thrive. I love watching Burden once he has the ball in his hands.

I don't know enough about Ozzy. I'm not worried about plugging a second round pick into the RT position. LT would be a different story. Darnell Wright is developing into a balanced OT who I think is ready to take a step up at LT.

I like Stewart alot. I hope they get his weight to around 295 and kick him to your primary 3TECH position and move him around in various sub packs. I think Stewart will become.the best 3TECH on the roster. Stewart reminds me of Greg Hardy.

I give them a B+ for day 2 and a C+ on the draft as a whole so far.

They didn't draft Stewart. They drafted Shemar Turner.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

You have to watch Loveland run one route to "get" it. And there were not any elite players left at #10 anyway.

Burden surprised me though. But it seems like a great value move with WRs being crazy expensive now.

Trapilo pick seems solid. Shows a commitment to the long term health of the passing offense.

Shemar Turner less sure about but he clearly has some tools.

 

[Dstone5553]

Burden surprised me though. But it seems like a great value move with WRs being crazy expensive now.

It's hard for me to trust Poles w the Burden pick because of Venus. I know GMs miss picks but I've never seen a guy with worse hands in my life. Great athlete but so obviously not a freaking football player. Feels like a guy like Holms wouldn't pick a guy like Venus w a loaded gun to his head. Did he do his HW on Claypool? Was there no evidence that that guy might just be a headcase?

Johnson gives me much more hope with a guy like Burden and I know he was a highly touted draft pick but Poles and receivers...hard to give him the benefit of the doubt there.

 

[Forty-six]

Clearly the Bears are going to try to bury teams in an avalanche of points rather than win with defense. It's a new era for Chicago football.

Since BJ loves 12 personnel you could have DJ, Rome, Loveland, Kmet on the line and Burden line up at running back. That personnel package is definitely going to create severe matchup problems for any defense. Burden isn't going to be in the backfield all of the time but you can see Ben is going for maximum flexibility on offense.

As I said last year before the season, everything will still come down to the ability of the OL to protect Caleb and give him time in the pocket. If that happens, we may be on to something. If not, this board will devolve into a meatball meltdown of the highest order.

Ben clearly knows how to build a dynamic offense so I have to trust him with all of these picks. The Bears should be one of the most fascinating teams in the NFL next year.

 

[dentfan]

Burden makes the 2nd round.

He’s a bit over 6’ and over 205 lbs. in a 2TE set, he can line up in the backfield and carry the ball. He can play a Deebo role and moonlight as a very good RB. He can also play a Gibs role on the O as that joker that nobody knows how he is going to get the ball, but, due to Rome and Moore, he will usually see single coverage and rarely from a DB.

If he is as good as his ceiling projects, he replaces DJ Moore, resetting that expensive contract to his rookie deal for 2-3 years! This shows foresight and patience on Poles as a GM.

As far as the big beef he got in the 2nd, good for him. The OL fits the Parcels planet theory and is a great pass blocker, just needs polish on his run blocking.

 

[dentfan]

Clearly the Bears are going to try to bury teams in an avalanche of points rather than win with defense. It's a new era for Chicago football.

Since BJ loves 12 personnel you could have DJ, Rome, Loveland, Kmet on the line and Burden line up at running back. That personnel package is definitely going to create severe matchup problems for any defense. Burden isn't going to be in the backfield all of the time but you can see Ben is going for maximum flexibility on offense.

As I said last year before the season, everything will still come down to the ability of the OL to protect Caleb and give him time in the pocket. If that happens, we may be on to something. If not, this board will devolve into a meatball meltdown of the highest order.

Ben clearly knows how to build a dynamic offense so I have to trust him with all of these picks. The Bears should be one of the most fascinating teams in the NFL next year.

Bro Beat me to it by seconds!

 

[msadows]

You have to watch Loveland run one route to "get" it. And there were not any elite players left at #10 anyway.

Burden surprised me though. But it seems like a great value move with WRs being crazy expensive now.

Trapilo pick seems solid. Shows a commitment to the long term health of the passing offense.

Shemar Turner less sure about but he clearly has some tools.

I think we all watched the routes and dont necessarily "get it". He's a fantastic player, built like a TE but runs like a WR. But if you take a TE at #10 he better be kelce,kittle,trey mcbride, brock bowers...especially when you already have a decent one.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

The OT from BC makes this an F+/D- I actually like Trapilo. Mammoth protector who excels at shutting down defenders/opposing 3Ts who are good at shooting the B gap and identifying stunts/twists. He's 6'8 with some bend problems, which will lead to some issues with short/speed guys in running situations, but I'll take him as some fresh blood in the OT room as opposed to Larry Borom and Jake or Jack Curhan, whatever the **** his name was.

WR4 who’s comp is Anthony miller and TE2 whomst--while I’m told left and right ‘BuT bEn JoHnSoN rUnS 2 TE sEtS a lot—yet I look at Detroits TE2 from a year ago with his 13 catches, clearly a factor in their passing game for a highly paid guy AND highly drafted, neither of which are good blockers—are the first 2 picks from this draft?

The 3 DL from Texas A&M didn't knock my socks off, but at least the bears got the better Shemar. Turner that is. I still don't get the hype for Stewart. Turner at least has been able to get after the QB. But Turner is a straight 3T/b gap penetrator known for a very fast first step, so the question becomes, is he the back up to Jarrett, and if so--what happens to Gervon Dexter?

Poles is incompetent. You had too many cooks in the kitchen last year in the WR room. You didn't learn. Luther Burden is a wasted pick. I get Henderson the HB went right before him, and I would have been better with that--but jesus christ...the WR room isn't what needs improvement

 

[playthrough2001]

The OT from BC makes this an F+/D- I actually like Trapilo. Mammoth protector who excels at shutting down defenders/opposing 3Ts who are good at shooting the B gap and identifying stunts/twists. He's 6'8 with some bend problems, which will lead to some issues with short/speed guys in running situations, but I'll take him as some fresh blood in the OT room as opposed to Larry Borom and Jake or Jack Curhan, whatever the **** his name was.

WR4 who’s comp is Anthony miller and TE2 whomst--while I’m told left and right ‘BuT bEn JoHnSoN rUnS 2 TE sEtS a lot—yet I look at Detroits TE2 from a year ago with his 13 catches, clearly a factor in their passing game for a highly paid guy AND highly drafted, neither of which are good blockers—are the first 2 picks from this draft?

The 3 DL from Texas A&M didn't knock my socks off, but at least the bears got the better Shemar. Turner that is. I still don't get the hype for Stewart. Turner at least has been able to get after the QB. But Turner is a straight 3T/b gap penetrator known for a very fast first step, so the question becomes, is he the back up to Jarrett, and if so--what happens to Gervon Dexter?

Poles is incompetent. You had too many cooks in the kitchen last year in the WR room. You didn't learn. Luther Burden is a wasted pick. I get Henderson the HB went right before him, and I would have been better with that--but jesus christ...the WR room isn't what needs improvement

So who were you picking at 10 and 39?

 

[cameronkrazie86]

One really good one who missed three months because of his fourth concussion and another who is 33.

What could go wrong?

I'm sure perfect health just like the offensive line the last 3 years. Guess the rose-colored glasses shifted to a different position group this offseason.

 

[msadows]

The OT from BC makes this an F+/D- I actually like Trapilo. Mammoth protector who excels at shutting down defenders/opposing 3Ts who are good at shooting the B gap and identifying stunts/twists. He's 6'8 with some bend problems, which will lead to some issues with short/speed guys in running situations, but I'll take him as some fresh blood in the OT room as opposed to Larry Borom and Jake or Jack Curhan, whatever the **** his name was.

WR4 who’s comp is Anthony miller and TE2 whomst--while I’m told left and right ‘BuT bEn JoHnSoN rUnS 2 TE sEtS a lot—yet I look at Detroits TE2 from a year ago with his 13 catches, clearly a factor in their passing game for a highly paid guy AND highly drafted, neither of which are good blockers—are the first 2 picks from this draft?

The 3 DL from Texas A&M didn't knock my socks off, but at least the bears got the better Shemar. Turner that is. I still don't get the hype for Stewart. Turner at least has been able to get after the QB. But Turner is a straight 3T/b gap penetrator known for a very fast first step, so the question becomes, is he the back up to Jarrett, and if so--what happens to Gervon Dexter?

Poles is incompetent. You had too many cooks in the kitchen last year in the WR room. You didn't learn. Luther Burden is a wasted pick. I get Henderson the HB went right before him, and I would have been better with that--but jesus christ...the WR room isn't what needs improvement

Bud, ben johnson is the one wanting the cooks in the kitchen.

If you wanted ben johnson, this is his vision for the offense. I didnt like te at #10 either, but ben johnson clearly did.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

It's hard for me to trust Poles w the Burden pick because of Venus. I know GMs miss picks but I've never seen a guy with worse hands in my life. Great athlete but so obviously not a freaking football player. Feels like a guy like Holms wouldn't pick a guy like Venus w

I think we all watched the routes and dont necessarily "get it". He's a fantastic player, built like a TE but runs like a WR. But if you take a TE at #10 he better be kelce,kittle,trey mcbride, brock bowers...especially when you already have a decent one.

I think we all watched the routes and dont necessarily "get it". He's a fantastic player, built like a TE but runs like a WR. But if you take a TE at #10 he better be kelce,kittle,trey mcbride, brock bowers...especially when you already have a decent one.

It is very apparent that Ben Johnson is not satisfied with "decent" when it comes to his offense.

 

[msadows]

So who were you picking at 10 and 39?

Like legit they passed up the only offensive tackle on the board besides ozzy(ESERY) to trade down. Clearly the bears did not want him.

Should we have reached 30 picks for kaleb johnson...who they clearly didnt want anyways since they passed on him 3 times in the 2nd?

 

[msadows]

It is very apparent that Ben Johnson is not satisfied with "decent" when it comes to his offense.

I understand that, It's just not the pick I would have made because Tight Ends historically struggle as rookies.

Hopefully they just use Loveland as a big slot WR and make the inline snaps limited.

The people who dont understand these picks think he's trying to mold this offense around what he did in detroit, he's CLEARLY not. The lions offense looks like dogshit compared to the talent on this offense now sans RB. BJ Clearly is trying to pass the ball more because he's got a passer of the ball without as many physical limitations.

 

[msadows]

BJ's first coach is also john schoop, who we know loves the screen game. Thats why burden was a good pick at #39. He's going to do all the short stuff with cold cement and let loveland stretch the seam/corner and DJ Moore/Rome moss some guys downfield.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

So who were you picking at 10 and 39?

The complainers were going to complain no matter who the Bears drafted. It’s just part of it

 

[playthrough2001]

The complainers were going to complain no matter who the Bears drafted. It’s just part of it

I get it but I’d like to hear opinions on what should have been done specifically.