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Cooking any vegetable (organic or not) changes it's nutrional value.

If you have two tomatoes just picked off the vine sitting on a shelf, one organically grown, the other is GMO/herbicies/pesticide whatever grown; all the present scientific research says there is virtually zero difference between them.

You comparing canned tomatoes to a fresh tomato is Special person.

oh, my bad. I thought you were comparing "organic" to "processed"

I assumed canned, but I guess you could compare "organic" to "frozen" if you want...
 

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oh, my bad. I thought you were comparing "organic" to "processed"

I assumed canned, but I guess you could compare "organic" to "frozen" if you want...

You realize that you can buy organic canned foods right?
 

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I love that HHM and FT never really established what they were debating, but they are debating nonetheless.... :lol:
 

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I love that HHM and FT never really established what they were debating, but they are debating nonetheless.... :lol:

and there's not even a single dislike given :lol:
 

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I wouldn't. Not as nutritious as fresh.

Ok. And a fresh non-organically grown tomato is just as nutritious as an organically grown one given all the present scientific data so..why should I buy organic again if it's more expensive?
 

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Ok. And a fresh non-organically grown tomato is just as nutritious as an organically grown one given all the present scientific data so..why should I buy organic again if it's more expensive?

I agree. You shouldn't. Unless you believe that the non-organically grown ones are filled with bug spray leached from some sort of toxic chemical laiden soil...

I don't know nothing about that tho lol. I just eat tomatoes I grow in my garden which are better tasting than the organic ones at whole foods or the ones from Tony's.
 

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BTW, FirstTimer: do you really like that Penn and Teller show on cable?
 

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I like the morons that go to farmers markets and buy "farm fresh tomatoes" that these idiots just bought from a grocery store, put in a bushel basket and marked up.
 

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BTW, FirstTimer: do you really like that Penn and Teller show on cable?

Never seen it. Aside from live sports, L&O reruns, and The Americans(plus whatever is sitting on the DVR I want to watch to kill some time) I really don't watch a ton of TV.
 

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I like the morons that go to farmers markets and buy "farm fresh tomatoes" that these idiots just bought from a grocery store, put in a bushel basket and marked up.

LOL totally. I saw this "farmer" swapping out some aldi eggs with his cartons and selling them for 6 bucks a dozen and saying they were free range vegetarian fed.

WTF is "vegetarian feed" if they are free range? My free range chickens eat snakes and poke through cow manure for worms and bugs i.e. what's they eat when you set some chickens to roam free on the range.
 

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Hey uhhhh, just in case you guys are carnivores, I've got a 100% all-beef flesh trumpet swinging between my thighs like a pendulum that you're more than welcome to play some scales on.

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Hey uhhhh, just in case you guys are carnivores, I've got a 100% all-beef flesh trumpet swinging between my thighs like a pendulum that you're more than welcome to play some scales on.

louis-armstrong-1.jpg

Why don't u just pm fisch with this stuff?

Everyone knows from your posts your beef has been heavily processed and fear a recall.
 

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Hey uhhhh, just in case you guys are carnivores, I've got a 100% all-beef flesh trumpet swinging between my thighs like a pendulum that you're more than welcome to play some scales on.

louis-armstrong-1.jpg

You mean an all - beef piccolo?

Anyway. Back on topic!

FT, I was mostly talking about grass finished(organic) meat. Don't try telling me there's no difference between grass finished and feedlot livestock. Even if you could find a dozen studies to show there's no difference I still wouldn't eat the feedlot shit, it's fucking disgusting.
My girlfriend bought some steaks at Safeway a couple of months ago because it was on sale. We had been eating almost exclusively from Sprouts for a while by then but the deal was too good to pass up I guess. I couldn't eat more than half of mine because it tasted like a bag of ass
 

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You should find a way to afford it. It's a lot better for you and it tastes waaaaaay better

Its also an easy way to limit your meat intake. Change meat back to a delicacy like its supposed to be rather than a 3X per day thing.
 

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You mean an all - beef piccolo?

Anyway. Back on topic!

FT, I was mostly talking about grass finished(organic) meat. Don't try telling me there's no difference between grass finished and feedlot livestock. Even if you could find a dozen studies to show there's no difference I still wouldn't eat the feedlot shit, it's fucking disgusting.
My girlfriend bought some steaks at Safeway a couple of months ago because it was on sale. We had been eating almost exclusively from Sprouts for a while by then but the deal was too good to pass up I guess. I couldn't eat more than half of mine because it tasted like a bag of ass

Nutritionally there isn't.
 

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Nutritionally there isn't.

All right, there is a difference in taste, for sure. But what I'm really interested in is whether it's nutritionally any different. And the story gets a little fishy here. You know how nutritionists are always recommending fish? Well, that's because many fish are rich in heart-healthy omega-3 fatty acids.

And where do the fish get these omega-3s? They eat it. (Well, generally, the tiniest sea creatures eat algae, and it moves up the food chain to bigger fish.) With grass-fed cows, it's a similar story. Omega-3s are in their meat— because they're eating grasses and clover rich in these heart-healthy fatty acids.

A recent analysis from the Union of Concerned Scientists found that grass-fed steak has about twice as many omega-3s as a typical grain-fed steak. Another study published in March in Nutrition Journal backed up those numbers.

Still, with 35 milligrams of heart-healthy fats per serving, grass-fed steak can't compete with a salmon dinner, which has about 1,100 milligrams. But it's a significant difference in omega-3s between grass-fed and corn-fed beef. (You can calculate the fat/protein or micronutrients of any food in your diet with this USDA tool.)

And since grass-fed cattle are typically leaner, almost all cuts of grass-fed beef have less total fat than beef from corn-raised cattle. Of course, the breed of cattle leads to variation, too

http://www.npr.org/2010/04/08/125722082/the-truth-about-grass-fed-beef
 

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Nutritionally there isn't.

The last sentence of that post: I couldn't eat more than half of mine because it tasted like a bag of ass.

And you're right, kind of. The macronutrients are the same. But there are more vitamins and minerals in grass finished meats. Especially an EFA called conjugated linoleic acid. I've supplemented my diet with cla before and it definitely made a difference in my workouts and overall health during that period. And, every bit helps. IMO
 

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The last sentence of that post: I couldn't eat more than half of mine because it tasted like a bag of ass.
Which is kind of odd since there's usually a bit more fat(flavor) in grain fed.


And you're right, kind of. The macronutrients are the same. But there are more vitamins and minerals in grass finished meats. Especially an EFA called conjugated linoleic acid. I've supplemented my diet with cla before and it definitely made a difference in my workouts and overall health during that period. And, every bit helps. IMO

But as I pointed out not to any real significant degree as part of a normal diet.

Read Aragon's study.
 

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