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TCD I don't mind Whole Wheat bread except for two occasions. PB&J and Grilled Cheese.





Good, you are going to want to lay off both of those anyway. PB&J wouldnt be bad with sugar free jam and half a serving of peanut butter. Peanut butter is good for you from a nutritional standpoint but the shit is chaulk full of fat and calories. if I could get standed anywhere with only one food and I need to survive, a jar of peanut butter would be my choice. Just a table spoon of that a day would do wonders to augment what you scrounge up from the wilds.



Grilled cheese pan cooked with butter etc? no so much.
 

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Good, you are going to want to lay off both of those anyway. PB&J wouldnt be bad with sugar free jam and half a serving of peanut butter. Peanut butter is good for you from a nutritional standpoint but the shit is chaulk full of fat and calories. if I could get standed anywhere with only one food and I need to survive, a jar of peanut butter would be my choice. Just a table spoon of that a day would do wonders to augment what you scrounge up from the wilds.



Grilled cheese pan cooked with butter etc? no so much.



True but Grilled Cheese is delicious. I don't have it often but when I do I sure the hell want white bread
 

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Supra, I've hit the bottom with my diet/body condition, so tomorrow I'm going to start again. I plan on hitting the gym with set exercises this week and with my notebook I'm going to find what my 8-10 rep max is, so when I start back into the full swing after Xmas, I know what weight to start at and work my way up.



Diet wise, I'm cutting out soda all together and drinking water and green tea. Food i'm going to be eating oatmeal or eggs for breakfast, and salads and some kind of protein for dinner and lunch. Snacks I may have some kind of low fat fruit or nuts.



It's going to suck but I'm about 240 pounds right now and my goal is to be around 175-180. I don't have a set time frame as I don't want to be hugely disappointed, so I'm hoping for 1-2 pounds of fat per week. If you want I can PM or post my workouts and give you an idea of what I'm doing.



Just thought I'd throw this out there so you know you're not alone.
 

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Supra, I've hit the bottom with my diet/body condition, so tomorrow I'm going to start again. I plan on hitting the gym with set exercises this week and with my notebook I'm going to find what my 8-10 rep max is, so when I start back into the full swing after Xmas, I know what weight to start at and work my way up.



Diet wise, I'm cutting out soda all together and drinking water and green tea. Food i'm going to be eating oatmeal or eggs for breakfast, and salads and some kind of protein for dinner and lunch. Snacks I may have some kind of low fat fruit or nuts.



It's going to suck but I'm about 240 pounds right now and my goal is to be around 175-180. I don't have a set time frame as I don't want to be hugely disappointed, so I'm hoping for 1-2 pounds of fat per week. If you want I can PM or post my workouts and give you an idea of what I'm doing.



Just thought I'd throw this out there so you know you're not alone.



That diet is right on the money. You'll shed pounds in no time.



Don't lift if you want to shed pounds, make sure you are active and always moving in your workouts, make them face paced. It doesn't have to be running, but as long as you are doing a fast paced workout it'll help. I highly recommend doing some p90X workouts if you can get your hands on them, it will give you a good idea of type of workouts you should be doing.



It also depends on how you prepare the food.



Boil your eggs, just eat the whites, throw out the middle. Forget the dressing on your salad, if you need to, put a small amount of extra virgin olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Believe it or not extra virgin olive oil helps your body take in more nutrition from each vegetable you eat with it (of course, in moderation). If you are going to have nuts, I recommend almonds, they taste good and they are good for you.



Also, make sure when you purchase your Whole Wheat bread its actually WHOLE WHEAT. Look at the ingredients, many products fool consumers into buying what they believe is whole wheat when really its not. If it says "wheat flour" as the first ingredient, then it says "water" or "sugar" or anything else other than a whole grain material -- you are buying the wrong stuff. The oats, grains, whatever you are getting should be at the beginning of the list. If its at the end, they are literally ripping you off by cheating out on the ingredients that they are advertising to you! Be careful, I am actually pretty fond of a particular brand but I can't remember the name right now, I'll have to get back on that.



Veggies -- Broccoli, Spinach, Eggplant, Collard Greens, Cabbage, Celery, Kale



Fruit -- All types of melon, Berries, Oranges, Peaches (throw some of those FRESH fruits in some low-fat yogurt)



Protein -- Hard Boiled Eggs (just whites), Beans (NOT CANNED -- these are high in sodium -- red kidney, lentil, garbanzo), straight up Protein Shakes, Almonds, Tuna (NOT IN OIL, MUST BE WATER, *White Albacore*), Shell Fish



Carbs -- Whole Wheat/Grain Bread/Bagels/Pasta, Potatoes (Baked or Boiled, not chips or fries), Oatmeal, Beans... VERY important that you consume SLOW burning carbs, especially if you eat before bed time if you are going to do that, make sure you eat something that is gonna take a while to digest.



Fat -- You still need to consume fat, its just about taking in the right types of it. Almonds, Extra Virgin Olive Oil, Flax Seeds, sometimes even a little bit of Chocolate is good.



That's about all I can think of. If there is one more thing you need to know about losing weight and eating healthy, make sure you watch how much sodium you take in -- this might be more important than the amount of fat you consume. Make sure when you buy these products, get the ones with the least amount of sodium. The reasons I said to get Water based Tuna rather than Oil, as well as dried beans instead of canned is because it will limit your sodium intake (unfortunately, you'll have to hold off on that giardiniera, one of my favorites but I rarely eat it anymore for that reason alone). Control that and you'll be golden.



Remember, its not about limiting your carbs and protein or whatever bull shit the media says, as long as you eat the RIGHT foods your body will digest it properly and use that energy to burn fat -- the point is, don't think of a diet as eating less, think of it as eating right. You'll see more success if you are doing it the right way and enjoying yourself. Some people eat more than others because their body needs the nutrition, its fine if you eat a lot but just eat the right foods and burn the energy by working out and staying active (this doesn't necessarily mean you have to work out more than you usually do, as long as you burn the energy you consume). Don't think of it as "oh if I eat less I will lose more weight" -- this isn't healthy and if you try and cheat it most-likely you'll fall back into the same bad decisions you made before. As long as you eat healthy, you will be healthy, and if your healthy your body will start to change. You'll be fine. Hope this helps.
 

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The only thing I disagree with, and from the articles I have collected and read, is that as long as I (or whomever) eats the proper amount of protein, you will actually burn more fat lifting then just basic cardio. That's not saying to just pure lift.



If you just diet and cardio, your body will actually start using the muscle for energy before fat. In P90X, you are in some ways still "weight lifting" but instead using small weights and body weight for endurance type muscle/cutting. For those weightlifting and genetic nerds out there, I'm an endomezo, which means I have broad shoulders, kind of a linebacker build, but the endomorph allows me to add weight or bulk easier then trying to drop pounds and cut up. I'm gonna lift in the 8-10 rep range on most exercises for a while, until I get to a point where I either want to totally cut up (also known as shredding. basically pure definition instead of bulk) or I'm going to bulk up a bit. I'm more then likely going to stay at the 8-10 for a while as I need to add a bit of bulk and some definition.



Unfortunately, this is what happens when you have family and friends who have taken or take weightlifting and exercise very seriously. I know a lot about this, just I don't apply it because I have what some people might call a "lazy" attitude...
 

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The only thing I disagree with, and from the articles I have collected and read, is that as long as I (or whomever) eats the proper amount of protein, you will actually burn more fat lifting then just basic cardio. That's not saying to just pure lift.



If you just diet and cardio, your body will actually start using the muscle for energy before fat. In P90X, you are in some ways still "weight lifting" but instead using small weights and body weight for endurance type muscle/cutting. For those weightlifting and genetic nerds out there, I'm an endomezo, which means I have broad shoulders, kind of a linebacker build, but the endomorph allows me to add weight or bulk easier then trying to drop pounds and cut up. I'm gonna lift in the 8-10 rep range on most exercises for a while, until I get to a point where I either want to totally cut up (also known as shredding. basically pure definition instead of bulk) or I'm going to bulk up a bit. I'm more then likely going to stay at the 8-10 for a while as I need to add a bit of bulk and some definition.



Unfortunately, this is what happens when you have family and friends who have taken or take weightlifting and exercise very seriously. I know a lot about this, just I don't apply it because I have what some people might call a "lazy" attitude...



I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that, as long as you do a combination of both. Of course, you need to build muscle as well. I like to lift regularly, but usually mix in a fast paced workout along with that.
 

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Ton thanks for the recent post. I like it. Those are the types of foods I have been eating for awhile (with some others thrown in) as I am not on any strict diet or anything. I am curious about the salt though. I am a salt fiend and have asked my doc if I should cut down. His reply was "we aren't going to worry about your salt intake until your bp shows signs of elevating." My bp is usually on the lower side of normal range. I know sodium will allow your body to retain more water, but is there something more to what you are saying about it?



Also, from my limited knowledge about the subject, cardio burns fat, but only while you are doing the activity and it doesn't burn much. In order to burn more fat on a consistent basis I read that you need to make your muscles work harder to burn that fat/those calories. In other words, weight training, but not lots of weight to where you are bulking up or growing massive amounts of muscle. Is that true?
 

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Ton thanks for the recent post. I like it. Those are the types of foods I have been eating for awhile (with some others thrown in) as I am not on any strict diet or anything. I am curious about the salt though. I am a salt fiend and have asked my doc if I should cut down. His reply was "we aren't going to worry about your salt intake until your bp shows signs of elevating." My bp is usually on the lower side of normal range. I know sodium will allow your body to retain more water, but is there something more to what you are saying about it?



Also, from my limited knowledge about the subject, cardio burns fat, but only while you are doing the activity and it doesn't burn much. In order to burn more fat on a consistent basis I read that you need to make your muscles work harder to burn that fat/those calories. In other words, weight training, but not lots of weight to where you are bulking up or growing massive amounts of muscle. Is that true?



I have no idea about major nutritional change, so Ton may have better info about the sodium.



Supposedly, from what I have read in studies and articles is that cardio will burn off your immediate energy source (sugars and carbs) and then it will go into your reserve bank of fat, only when you are doing the cardio. Weightlifting actually keeps your metabolism and fat burning going after the workout for supposedly up to 48 hours.



To be honest, with working out, there really is no right or wrong answer and a lot of facts and techniques are always changing because people go through and trial and error period and sometimes find new information. I have friends who were overweight and did an hour of pure cardio at a steady rate, and mixed in some weights and lost pounds. But you'll hear the only way to lose weight is my high intensity cardio such as jogging for 1 minute and then sprinting for 30 seconds and then jogging for 1 minute and then sprinting for another 30 seconds and so on.
 

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I have no idea about major nutritional change, so Ton may have better info about the sodium.



Supposedly, from what I have read in studies and articles is that cardio will burn off your immediate energy source (sugars and carbs) and then it will go into your reserve bank of fat, only when you are doing the cardio. Weightlifting actually keeps your metabolism and fat burning going after the workout for supposedly up to 48 hours.



To be honest, with working out, there really is no right or wrong answer and a lot of facts and techniques are always changing because people go through and trial and error period and sometimes find new information. I have friends who were overweight and did an hour of pure cardio at a steady rate, and mixed in some weights and lost pounds. But you'll hear the only way to lose weight is my high intensity cardio such as jogging for 1 minute and then sprinting for 30 seconds and then jogging for 1 minute and then sprinting for another 30 seconds and so on.





woo hoo, 30 60's will tear your ass up. That was the #1 training regime that catapulted my run times up in the Army. The biggest thing with those is will power and determination to stick with it, i mean doing 30 60's for a half hour really sucks ass.
 

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