Hossa's Injury

[the canadian dream]

Are we in for one of these seasons again where team injuries are going to be a story? God I hope not.



Damn it Hossa has been playing so well too. Who's going to step up now until Hossa can get back?



Is it wrong of me to want Makarov to be called up?

 

[Tater]

Are we in for one of these seasons again where team injuries are going to be a story? God I hope not.



Damn it Hossa has been playing so well too. Who's going to step up now until Hossa can get back?



Is it wrong of me to want Makarov to be called up?

If that is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

 

[PatrickShart]

Makarov or Morin



No Taffe of Poultny

 

[bookjones]

JT as well. The first thing I thought is the kids feed off adversity. I agree 100%.



I would like to see Makarov get a few games. Put him with JT or Kane.

Woohoo! Me too, me too! I mean if I have to already suffer the indignity of my main man being injured and out of commission for a few weeks at least throw me a Makarov bone on the RW ya know. . .and at only a $550K cap hit to boot so really it's also fiscally sound.

 

[R K]

Makarov or Morin



No Taffe of Poultny

Morin will not be coming up. He's still getting over his injury. He is skating with the team I believe.



I also think Poltuny would need to clear waivers on the back down so he's probably out.

 

[bookjones]

Morin will not be coming up. He's still getting over his injury. He is skating with the team I believe.



I also think Poltuny would need to clear waivers on the back down so he's probably out.

Although I personally would prefer to see Makarov I can't shake the feeling thinking that the Hawks are leaning more towards maybe giving Beach the callup.

 

[LordKOTL]

Well, RK, the news about the Xrays are about as positive as Magic Johnson <insert groans here>



Still, Stoll wants to mount Hossa, and Hossa gets injured. The team needed this like an infected scrotum.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Although I personally would prefer to see Makarov I can't shake the feeling thinking that the Hawks are leaning more towards maybe giving Beach the callup.

I'd like to see Makorov first, but it would be interesting to see Beach. Would'nt Beach put us over the cap?

 

[R K]

Although I personally would prefer to see Makarov I can't shake the feeling thinking that the Hawks are leaning more towards maybe giving Beach the callup.

Damnit.... What spunky said....



I could have swore I read the Hawks only have 400k lee way right now. Beach is 1.4 mil?

 

[bookjones]

I'd like to see Makorov first, but it would be interesting to see Beach. Would'nt Beach put us over the cap?

Ah yes. . .I momentarily forgot about that ovelording ***** godess the Salary Cap! Good point. I suppose it would be tight as hell but if they really wanted to they could juuuuuuuust maybe squeeze Beach in but it'd be harder than hell without doing something else technically. He's even more expensive than Morin and Morin's more expensive than Makarov. Hawks have been operating for the past week and a half or so with about $1 mil in cap space based on when I check the numbers at Capgeek. Combined with the fact that they never put The Ginge on LTIR and won't with Hossa either, Beach's $1.1 mil hit would make him getting the call all but an impossible longshot now that you've made me remember how high his hit is. In which case. . .GO IGOR!!!

!!!

 

[bookjones]

So I just read Adam Jahns' article about Hossa's injury and can I just say that this little gem of a quote made me almost pop a goddamn blood vessel:

With Hossa out, the Hawks will likely recall a player from the Rockford IceHogs. Brandon Pirri and Evan Brophey were recalled on separate occasions earlier in the season.



Winger Jeremy Morin, a standout in training camp, would be a leading candidate, but he has a lower-body injury.



"I don't think he's ready," Quenneville said.



Quenneville also didn't rule out using Jordan Hendry and John Scott at wing. Hossa had seven goals and 11 points in 10 games.



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WTF????? Jesus, Marian, and Joseph! if that went from idle specualtion to reality talk about an abomination of a replacement plan for Marian "Fucking" Hossa!

 

[5Minutes4Fighting]

This is 110% pure speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hossa suffered some sort of muscle pull or sprain a few games ago which got aggravated last nite (also cuz the contact in the game last nite which cause the injury was not that severe it seems). Hossa seems to have toned it down a little after the first 7 games or so. I think about three games ago he only had one shot on goal, and that's when i first noticed. And hasn't he been held without a point in 4 games? Anyway, when the season started, he was superhuman, and that has not been Hossa the last few games. Just my thoughts and speculation.



-5Minutes

 

[maryo]

WTF????? Jesus, Marian, and Joseph! if that went from idle specualtion to reality talk about an abomination of a replacement plan for Marian "Fucking" Hossa!

Face it: There is no replacement for Marian Fucking Hossa. Regardless of who gets the call up, let's just remember that. I don't have a huge problem with Hendry at wing, though that would mean Scott would be back on D.

This is 110% pure speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hossa suffered some sort of muscle pull or sprain a few games ago which got aggravated last nite (also cuz the contact in the game last nite which cause the injury was not that severe it seems). Hossa seems to have toned it down a little after the first 7 games or so. I think about three games ago he only had one shot on goal, and that's when i first noticed. And hasn't he been held without a point in 4 games? Anyway, when the season started, he was superhuman, and that has not been Hossa the last few games. Just my thoughts and speculation.

I started thinking along those lines earlier today. He's looked a little off in the last few games, like he wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders... then again, most of those games nobody looked like they were playing to their full potential. I doubt we'll hear anything about it until he's better and back with the team, if at all.









Also, why am I so damn happy I figured out the mulit-quote feature? Nerd alert.

 

[bookjones]

This is 110% pure speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hossa suffered some sort of muscle pull or sprain a few games ago which got aggravated last nite (also cuz the contact in the game last nite which cause the injury was not that severe it seems). Hossa seems to have toned it down a little after the first 7 games or so. I think about three games ago he only had one shot on goal, and that's when i first noticed. And hasn't he been held without a point in 4 games? Anyway, when the season started, he was superhuman, and that has not been Hossa the last few games. Just my thoughts and speculation.



-5Minutes

That's pretty much what I've been thinking all day---something started sapping his mojo during last Friday's game and he hasn't been the Way and the Light like his normal self since.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

I'd like to see Makorov first, but it would be interesting to see Beach. Would'nt Beach put us over the cap?

I'm pretty sure the salary cap works on a daily basis. In other words - a player's salary cap hit divided by the number of days in the regular season (approximately 200 days) is the player's daily salary and that amount is charged to the team for each day he is on the roster. If a player spends the entire season on the roster - then obviously his entire annual salary cap hit is charged to the team. However, if the player is on the roster for only 14 days, then only the player's daily salary times 14 would be charged to the team.



So, using ballpark figures - Beach's salary cap hit is $1.1M. Divide that by 200 and Beach's daily salary is $5,500. Therefore, if Beach spent 14 days on the Hawks roster - it would use $77,000 out of the team's salary cap (5,500 x 14). Admitedly that is an over simplification because Beach is on an ELC and a portion of that salary cap hit is set aside for bonuses he may make, where if he doesn't make those bonuses, he doesn't earn that part of the salary and then those amounts are not charged to the team.



Makarov's salary cap hit is about half of Beach's - so if Makarov is called up to replace Hossa for a couple weeks, it will cost the Hawks $38,500 against the cap ($550,000 / 200 x 14).



In either case - I'm pretty sure the Hawks can handle the salary cap hit for such a short term.

 

[Ton]

Face it: There is no replacement for Marian Fucking Hossa. Regardless of who gets the call up, let's just remember that. I don't have a huge problem with Hendry at wing, though that would mean Scott would be back on D.











I started thinking along those lines earlier today. He's looked a little off in the last few games, like he wasn't exactly firing on all cylinders... then again, most of those games nobody looked like they were playing to their full potential. I doubt we'll hear anything about it until he's better and back with the team, if at all.









Also, why am I so damn happy I figured out the mulit-quote feature? Nerd alert.

Just remember Campbell is coming back so that would only be temporary, Scott wouldn't play D for long.

 

[winos5]

Speculation about the injury is a shoulder or arm and less likely a concussion. Is that correct?



As far as call ups, Makarov, Pirri, or Brophey are the most cap friendly. I'd like a look at Makarov as well.

 

[Sathington Willoby]

If they put him on LTIR, which I believe has to be 10 games and 24 days off, they can exceed the cap by his salary. Which means they could call up anyone except Huet. I'm hoping LTIR is not an option because the injury really only is a couple weeks or less.

 

[bookjones]

If they put him on LTIR, which I believe has to be 10 games and 24 days off, they can exceed the cap by his salary. Which means they could call up anyone except Huet. I'm hoping LTIR is not an option because the injury really only is a couple weeks or less.

Well they didn't even put The Ginge on LTIR and knew he'd be out for 4 weeks minimum so I am thinking they likely won't with Hossa and his shorter term injury.

 

[Five_Hole]

According to the Blackhawks Twitter, Ben Smith (who?) wins the call-up lottery.