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You'll want to try looking at seasons before his last one probably. IIRC, he was playing a lot of PF so you'll just see a bunch of post defense from his senior year at least.
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yeah, I knew they played him at the 4 a lot last year. have you noticed his footwork issues back then?
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He has solid fundamental post defense from what I remember from his scouting vids. My memory is a bit fuzzy but his perimeter d has never been good. He seemed to know where to be positionally though. So kinda like how Gasol knows where to be in the scheme of the defense but sucks as an individual defender, McDermott is the perimeter version of that.
He's trying way too hard right now.
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yeah, im thinking more perimeter face up defense....he looks like his feet are on fire is the best way to describe how he looks in that situation
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Well...he doesn't have much lateral quickness so I get the footfire thing. It's a drill in basketball camps actually lol. Either way, it's too much. He needs to calm down a lot lol.
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No, because I;m not shipping McBuckets down the river like people did with Snell. Also, Snell has had maybe 10 good games this year. All of them recently. People may not want to swallow that crow yet.
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You'll have to explain irony to the people who are doing that. It's mostly people who start off thinking Bulls' management don't know what they're doing drafting whoever they do, then they're fools because they don't play some guys, all the while ignoring reasonable calls for patience. It really goes back to Noah who people thought had no game. Then when Jimmy Butler gets in games after learning and is an all star people have to backpedal. Now here's Snell, took the time to learn the system, get the NBA game in his head and now he looks like a contributor. The next magnet for stupidity is McDermott who any owner of a double digit IQ would have learned from seeing those previous players that maybe there are guys who need to learn the NBA game, figure out that the Bulls pass the ball to find the open man and play defense.
Those are usually the same people who don't see the difference in the way the Bulls play when Hinrich is on the floor. Bring up his completely bonehead play and want to ditch him. There wouldn't be any players in the league if that was the measuring stick.
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Snell has had some good games, but c'mon. I need to see it for an extended period of time.
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Exactly. People have been acting like Thibs has something against McBuckets, whom he gave PLENTY of time to in the beginning of the season. When it was clear he was not ready to be a contributor on either side of the floor, Thibs put him further down on the depth chart. Then the injury happened, which really hurt any chance of him breaking the rotation this season. No one should sell him down the river, just like they shouldn't have with Snell.
The FO didn't give up two picks to get a guy just to give up on him in year 1. They saw a lot of potential in McBuckets and with good reason. The guy could score in multiple ways in college, shot an extremely high percentage from all spots on the floor, and is a smart, hard working player. Fans are always clamoring for instant gratification and when it is not received, that's when the idiocy starts to spew from their mouths.
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I would like that from Snell, just like I want that from every player. He's proving me wrong lately, but I want him to prove me wrong for a long time. I love Butler as a player. But I think people jumped on his bandwagon a little too hard this year. He has done good this year, but I would like it from him every year. Hopefully his play continues for seasons to come.
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Do the Bulls face reality that they have to trade Butler? Do we ride with Butler?
I'm afraid the better Snell plays the more it seals the fate of Butler being "too costly" in the off-season. Since we are losing Dunleavy also more than likely, it becomes dire quickly if we don't keep hitting draft picks and developing them. In particular, McD must be able to play the 3 eventually.
We need to pay Butler lots of money, and just keep drafting well. I'm gonna be furious if we lose Butler. They were insane when they passed on the 12, and now somebody is going to make this extremely difficult to match with some crazy poison pill nightmare stuff. Snell will just give them an excuse to move on, and for all we know Butler will want out of Rose's shadow like McGrady pulled with Carter.
I'm afraid the better Snell plays the more it seals the fate of Butler being "too costly" in the off-season. Since we are losing Dunleavy also more than likely, it becomes dire quickly if we don't keep hitting draft picks and developing them. In particular, McD must be able to play the 3 eventually.
We need to pay Butler lots of money, and just keep drafting well. I'm gonna be furious if we lose Butler. They were insane when they passed on the 12, and now somebody is going to make this extremely difficult to match with some crazy poison pill nightmare stuff. Snell will just give them an excuse to move on, and for all we know Butler will want out of Rose's shadow like McGrady pulled with Carter.
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butler WILL be a bull next year count on that. bulls will match whatever crazy contract somebody offers him. reinsdorf doesn't mind paying the luxury tax if its for a roster that is championship caliber
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THe key with Snell as he goes forward is to continue to be a good SG/SF defender. This is the one thing with all players that is key for me. That their shot might not go in, that they can screw up making passes, BUT for them not to give up defensively or reboundingwise.
Snell, as he progresses, I think, could end up being a legit NBA starter. He's got a way to go offensively as far as ball handling goes especially but looking at the way Butler and before him, Gibson progressed, he obviously has a good chance in the NBA.
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I don't think that the Bulls will be that dumb to let Butler walk. First of all, Butler is a top tier NBA player and Snell is just beginning to find his way.
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Why would the Bulls let someone who is in the discussion for the best two way shooting guard in the league slip out of their hands because of Tony Snell? If anything, Snell's development would allow the Bulls to let Dunleavy go if they had to without any fear. If Snell makes himself out to be a guy who can score 10ppg and shoot a good percentage from 3, you could argue he's better than Dunleavy because of his defense. Then you roll with Snell and Butler as your starting wings and let McDermott progress as the 3rd wing.
Point is this, there's no reason for the Bulls to lose Butler...he's worth the money.
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but what if we get bounced in the first round?
i think Butler will be back either way...but say bye to Taj if we don't make the finals
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You could potentially say goodbye to Taj by the trade deadline. The Bulls have fielded offers and made calls of their own and you can bet he's a part of most scenarios.
Or he could be a member of the team next year too. We don't really know but I don't think it's all predicated on the team making it to the Finals.
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Talking about Tony Snell with a buddy at a bar, dude gave the best quote about Hinrich:
"Kirk is like a dog in the last month of his life."
"Kirk is like a dog in the last month of his life."
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Snell's coming on like he has in the last few games might be a good thing or a bad thing in my eyes. If he can keep it up, then their need for a shooting guard which is real in my view may be alleviated to the extent that it might prevent them from making a deal. But if he cannot keep up his progress, then failing to trade for a good shooting gaurd will, I think, cost them from advancing in the play-offs.
I am all for Snell to keep it going but I still think that they need an experienced Veteran shooting guard on this team and not to put their play-off future in the hands of Hinrich and Snell.