I will not be surprised to see Jaylon Johnson traded

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Harsh fact is this team probably needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Too many aging veterans, too few up-and-comers at the premium positions. The Bears really don’t have any game breakers aside from DJ Moore, who only tries when he really wants to and btw will be 28 years old next year.
 

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Harsh fact is this team probably needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Too many aging veterans, too few up-and-comers at the premium positions. The Bears really don’t have any game breakers aside from DJ Moore, who only tries when he really wants to and btw will be 28 years old next year.
Whut? The only starter on this team that you could consider a higher end starter in the league at 30+ is Keenen Allen at 32 years old. The only other starters at 30+ are Kevin Byard, Matt Pryor and Demarcus Walker, all of which are totally replaceable. The only other starters at 29 are Andrew Billings and Coleman Shelton. This is a young team.

The problem is not age, it's elite talent. Jaylon Johnson is the only one you can say for sure is a top 10 starter at his position in the league. The only other one that might be there is DJ Moore, otherwise you really don't have anyone else even in that conversation (Kyler Murray if you're going to consider nickelback it's own position outside of cornerback in general).
 

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Whut? The only starter on this team that you could consider a higher end starter in the league at 30+ is Keenen Allen at 32 years old. The only other starters at 30+ are Kevin Byard, Matt Pryor and Demarcus Walker, all of which are totally replaceable. The only other starters at 29 are Andrew Billings and Coleman Shelton. This is a young team.

The problem is not age, it's elite talent. Jaylon Johnson is the only one you can say for sure is a top 10 starter at his position in the league. The only other one that might be there is DJ Moore, otherwise you really don't have anyone else even in that conversation (Kyler Murray if you're going to consider nickelback it's own position outside of cornerback in general).
Montez Sweat is 28 and clearly breaking down physically. The fact is 30 is just an arbitrary number made by fans, a lot of guys go cooked well before then. The competitive window of this roster is basically over.
 

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Montez Sweat is 28 and clearly breaking down physically. The fact is 30 is just an arbitrary number made by fans, a lot of guys go cooked well before then. The competitive window of this roster is basically over.
Whut again? Sweat's been battling a calf injury all year which affects burst. There's no evidence to suggest he's breaking down physically.

But you said "aging vets." Care to name any more than the ones I listed other than Sweat?
 

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They'll trade him cause he showed that he cares about winning?
 

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JJ needs to keep his mouth shut but he isn’t going anywhere.

Stevenson better be gone. Didn’t like him before the hailmary. Hate him after
 

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Whut again? Sweat's been battling a calf injury all year which affects burst. There's no evidence to suggest he's breaking down physically.

But you said "aging vets." Care to name any more than the ones I listed other than Sweat?
Who's the long snapper? Probably an aging vet
 

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Whut again? Sweat's been battling a calf injury all year which affects burst. There's no evidence to suggest he's breaking down physically.

But you said "aging vets." Care to name any more than the ones I listed other than Sweat?
First off, name the actual really standout NFL players on the Bears. Really there’s only one, DJ Moore who like it or not has some motivation issues and its an objective fact that he’ll be in his late-twenties next year.

And then just remark at how kinda stupid it is to be like “this guy has just been battling an injury all year that has affected his play dramatically, how dare you say he’s breaking down physically”.
 

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Harsh fact is this team probably needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Too many aging veterans, too few up-and-comers at the premium positions. The Bears really don’t have any game breakers aside from DJ Moore, who only tries when he really wants to and btw will be 28 years old next year.
28years old is not old for a wide receiver. Receivers usually don’t fall off until 32. They aren’t running backs you know
 

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First off, name the actual really standout NFL players on the Bears. Really there’s only one, DJ Moore who like it or not has some motivation issues and its an objective fact that he’ll be in his late-twenties next year.

And then just remark at how kinda stupid it is to be like “this guy has just been battling an injury all year that has affected his play dramatically, how dare you say he’s breaking down physically”.
I heard Brady was breaking down physically in 2008 when he tore his ACL. I believe the Pats cut him because he was too old and couldn’t be counted on anymore. #truestory
 

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I heard Brady was breaking down physically in 2008 when he tore his ACL. I believe the Pats cut him because he was too old and couldn’t be counted on anymore. #truestory
If you have to reach for the freakazoid who refused to eat a strawberry and played until his forty-five to prove the point then well
 

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He wants to win, it needed to be done, I am sure the players respected what he did, he will not do that to someone like Thomas Brown or Vrabel. I don’t think he is going anywhere
This. As a veteran player Johnson acted out for his teammates. It’s what needed to be done. Maybe Warren and Poles need to find a coach with the same time of emotion and attitude.
 

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First off, name the actual really standout NFL players on the Bears. Really there’s only one, DJ Moore who like it or not has some motivation issues and its an objective fact that he’ll be in his late-twenties next year.
I'm the one that made that argument, that age isn't an issue, it's the lack of true superstars on the team.

And then just remark at how kinda stupid it is to be like “this guy has just been battling an injury all year that has affected his play dramatically, how dare you say he’s breaking down physically”.
But it is. He played great last year and now has a soft tissue nagging injury, much like how hamstring injuries can linger for a long time without sustained rest. That's what he's going through right now. If it continues into next year or something similar crops up, then you'll have a point.
 

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He did right and they will trade him and he will go win somewhere else and be great there.
My guess is Poles and company want a guy like Johnson on their team.

You know...someone who cares about winning.

You're the guy who screamed from the heaven's what a one read bust Daniels was going to be, right?
Kind of hard to take you seriously about anything you say from how loudly you were screaming that to anyone who would listen.

You must feel pretty stupid about how strongly you felt about that one. Or are you thinking that the league will catch up to him and he'll eventually be a bust next year after winning ROTY this year?
 

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