IGT: Heat (31-9) at Bulls (35-9) 3/14/12 8:30 CT on CSN Chicago/ESPN

[FirstTimer]

LeBron proved how anti-clutch he was in the NBA Finals and plenty of times before that and since then. The Heat beating the Bulls was more about the Bulls being anti-clutch.

LeClutch teabagging Rose makes me :cum:

Just keep excusing the Bulls getting LeClutch'ed. It's ok. It will happen again this year.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

:smh:

 

[houheffna]

Rose isn't clutch for hitting one buzzer-beater against the Bucks and neither is James for hitting a few three's down-the-stretch with a 3-1 series lead already in-hand.

Houheffna = contrarian

FirstTimer = tr0ll

Lebron won game 2 with big shots also. He played big that whole series.

“It’s extremely hard where a 6’8″ guy can easily defend you,” said Rose.- Bulls.com

I guess Rose isn't a Bulls fan either...

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL.

Even Rose is shook by LeClutch. What a pussy.

Go hide in your house and cry more.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

!

Lebron won game 2 with big shots also. He played big that whole series.

“It’s extremely hard where a 6’8″ guy can easily defend you,” said Rose.- Bulls.com

I guess Rose isn't a Bulls fan either...

FirstTimer makes statements like 'it makes me cum to LeBron shitting on Rose' and you are wondering why people call him a troll/Heat fan/both?

HA!

Heat won Game 2 pretty easily. The Bulls were fighting to come back most of the game. That had shit-all do to with being clutch.

You are either clutch or you aren't. LeBron James shrinks when he has the pressure on his shoulders and you have said as much yourself.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

LOL.

Even Rose is shook by LeClutch. What a pussy.

Go hide in your house and cry more.

*waits for Houheffna to call out this*

*waits forever*

 

[FirstTimer]

*waits for Houheffna to call out this*

*waits forever*

Why would he?

It's true.

Rose=pussy.

Loses a playoff series and runs and hides.

:rolling:


Him and Bosh can use the same box of kleenex.

LeClutch loses, and like a boss, goes out and parties. :woot:

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I have never heard either one of you two celebrate the Bulls yet you wonder why people think you're antics get old and tiring. FirstTimer makes it a point to get under people's skin but, you, Houh, just make it a point to be the anti-homer to make it sound like you're smarter than everybody else. That way, you can always pull out the "YOU'SA HOMER" card whenever you're in doubt. With me, you can't really do that so you like to call out my objective opinions for being "idiotic."

Am I perfect? No way. And do I say shit without thinking it through sometimes? Sure. But at least I don't make it a point to put others down to feel smarter.

 

[houheffna]

FirstTimer makes statements like 'it makes me cum to LeBron shitting on Rose' and you are wondering why people call him a troll/Heat fan/both?

HA!

Heat won Game 2 pretty easily. The Bulls were fighting to come back most of the game. That had shit-all do to with being clutch.

You are either clutch or you aren't. LeBron James shrinks when he has the pressure on his shoulders and you have said as much yourself.

FirstTimer calls himself a troll...he is waging psychological warfare on this forum. The likes of which I have never seen. I am enjoying it. He is a Bulls fan just like me, you know why he says that stuff? Because he isn't a Rami fan.

Now back to Lebron...

I have not said he wasn't clutch against the Bulls, nor have I said he has NEVER been clutch...not once. More times than not he comes up short. And he played horribly in the finals...I stated that already.

And the Heat won game 2 because of Lebron and Defense, it was tight in the fourth quarter...Lebron hit the big shots.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

FirstTimer calls himself a troll...he is waging psychological warfare on this forum. The likes of which I have never seen. I am enjoying it. He is a Bulls fan just like me, you know why he says that stuff? Because he isn't a Rami fan.

Now back to Lebron...

I have not said he wasn't clutch against the Bulls, nor have I said he has NEVER been clutch...not once. More times than not he comes up short. And he played horribly in the finals...I stated that already.

And the Heat won game 2 because of Lebron and Defense, it was tight in the fourth quarter...Lebron hit the big shots.

Hitting big shots happens all the time for almost every NBA player at certain points of their careers (especially when you are as athletically gifted and play as many minutes as LeBron). Clutchness is more than just hitting game-deciding shots every once in a while. LeBron is not clutch and Rose honestly hasn't proven that he is either. Gary Neal is more clutch than either of them.

 

[houheffna]

I have never heard either one of you two celebrate the Bulls yet you wonder why people think you're antics get old and tiring. FirstTimer makes it a point to get under people's skin but, you, Houh, just make it a point to be the anti-homer to make it sound like you're smarter than everybody else. That way, you can always pull out the "YOU'SA HOMER" card whenever you're in doubt. With me, you can't really do that so you like to call out my objective opinions for being "idiotic."

Am I perfect? No way. And do I say shit without thinking it through sometimes? Sure. But at least I don't make it a point to put others down to feel smarter.

I haven't called you a homer in this conversation. And yes, some of the points you made are pathetic and idiotic. I am within my rights to say that.

I initially stated that the win was a good one for the Bulls...WTF else do you want me to say??? It was a good win...period.

Where were you when I was on the forum...on my podcast...praising the Bulls endlessly for winning game 1 of the ECF? Where were you? I actually CHANGED MY PREDICTION and said no way do the Bulls lose to the Heat in that series. I just didn't see it...

But it happened. The world rooted for the Bulls, and the Bulls didn't come through. You all lament injuries as excuses, but the whole TNT crew, half of ESPN (Bucher, Simmons, etc.) and a lot of the sports world said the Bulls would get it done. Why didn't they notice that Boozer was so badly hurt, or that Noah was somehow physically unable to perform at a high level because of injury? I think they saw those guys as being healthy enough to get it done.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Rose isn't clutch for hitting one buzzer-beater against the Bucks and neither is James for hitting a few three's down-the-stretch with a 3-1 series lead already in-hand.

Houheffna = contrarian

FirstTimer = tr0ll

ya dont say....

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

I haven't called you a homer in this conversation. And yes, some of the points you made are pathetic and idiotic. I am within my rights to say that.

I initially stated that the win was a good one for the Bulls...WTF else do you want me to say??? It was a good win...period.

Where were you when I was on the forum...on my podcast...praising the Bulls endlessly for winning game 1 of the ECF? Where were you? I actually CHANGED MY PREDICTION and said no way do the Bulls lose to the Heat in that series. I just didn't see it...

But it happened. The world rooted for the Bulls, and the Bulls didn't come through. You all lament injuries as excuses, but the whole TNT crew, half of ESPN (Bucher, Simmons, etc.) and a lot of the sports world said the Bulls would get it done. Why didn't they notice that Boozer was so badly hurt, or that Noah was somehow physically unable to perform at a high level because of injury? I think they saw those guys as being healthy enough to get it done.

1. The only idiotic thing I said about the Diaw/AK/D12/LBJ thing was that Diaw and AK could possibly be construed as more versatile than LeBron James individually. It was a lazy statement and that was neither what I meant nor was the point of why I brought it up. The Oscar/Clyde thing was purely because I felt that I was not educated enough about Oscar to say that I could put him beyond a shadow of a doubt over Drexler. Nothing that I've said has been idiotic. Sometimes I make bold statements and don't cover my bases but I am honest about what I know and don't know.

2. That's fine and good but when you are on here, most of the time it is to be a contrarian and always point out the opposing point of view that is not the Bulls. A lot of people are awful homers and I go after them as much as anybody on here, but a lot of posts are actually pretty good points. But anything that knocks LeBron James (even legit criticism) usually gets shot down by you followed by (sometimes) a little insult. It's not that big of a deal honestly but you aren't exactly the most optimistic and celebratory Bulls' fan in here. I'm sure you can agree to that.

3. I've listened to maybe one of your podcasts before (I tend not to be interested in those types of things at all) and I don't remember much about whichever one it was. I'm just going by what you do and say in here, and it seems to me you are always quick to point out the pessimistic POV on the Bulls and seem to think that all fans should share your philosophy/outlook. I actually share that philosophy with you for the most part but I'm not going to hold it against others for always coming from the "well, if only this, this, and this happened then the Bulls can get by the Heat" perspective.

4. The guys on TNT all picking the Bulls and a couple of people on ESPN (out of many) doesn't mean much. Derrick Rose wasn't the biggest reason why the Bulls lost honestly. It was because the Heat had better quality players.

 

[Bear06]

Trolls like FirstTimer need to get banned from this site forever!

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Trolls like FirstTimer need to get banned from this site forever!

Why?
Firsttimer has a roll here.
We need him for shittz and giggles.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Why?
Firsttimer has a roll here.
We need him for shittz and giggles.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETShkg-65fY]The Rock - Shut your damn Mouth - YouTube[/ame]

 

[houheffna]

1. The only idiotic thing I said about the Diaw/AK/D12/LBJ thing was that Diaw and AK could possibly be construed as more versatile than LeBron James individually. It was a lazy statement and that was neither what I meant nor was the point of why I brought it up. The Oscar/Clyde thing was purely because I felt that I was not educated enough about Oscar to say that I could put him beyond a shadow of a doubt over Drexler. Nothing that I've said has been idiotic. Sometimes I make bold statements and don't cover my bases but I am honest about what I know and don't know.

2. That's fine and good but when you are on here, most of the time it is to be a contrarian and always point out the opposing point of view that is not the Bulls. A lot of people are awful homers and I go after them as much as anybody on here, but a lot of posts are actually pretty good points. But anything that knocks LeBron James (even legit criticism) usually gets shot down by you followed by (sometimes) a little insult. It's not that big of a deal honestly but you aren't exactly the most optimistic and celebratory Bulls' fan in here. I'm sure you can agree to that.

3. I've listened to maybe one of your podcasts before (I tend not to be interested in those types of things at all) and I don't remember much about whichever one it was. I'm just going by what you do and say in here, and it seems to me you are always quick to point out the pessimistic POV on the Bulls and seem to think that all fans should share your philosophy/outlook. I actually share that philosophy with you for the most part but I'm not going to hold it against others for always coming from the "well, if only this, this, and this happened then the Bulls can get by the Heat" perspective.

4. The guys on TNT all picking the Bulls and a couple of people on ESPN (out of many) doesn't mean much. Derrick Rose wasn't the biggest reason why the Bulls lost honestly. It was because the Heat had better quality players.

I haven't said anything about your comments about Diaw...I am talking about this conversation. Telling me my intent behind my statements when you have no clue what my intentions are...idiotic. I usually criticize what you say, I rarely criticize WHY you say it. I don't have time for that.

And no, I have NEVER been a celebratory fan. I am not a "rah-rah" type of guy. Nor do I see the point in calling other players bitches and pussies all the time...does that make me less of a fan than you or anybody else? I don't think so.

I don't think all fans should have my point of view...do you know how boring that would be??? But I do expect people to make sense. If you are going to say Noah didn't play well against Howard because he was tired, then the same person should say the Heat struggled against the Bulls because they played Howard the night before in an OT game. Is that not fair? I shouldn't see the same guy making excuses for Noah when he plays bad, then when he is part of a victory that is surprising, tell those who picked them to lose (damn near everybody outside this forum) to "suck it".

It was because the Heat had better quality players...AND THEY STILL DO! I am sooooooo not a fan...because I value Howard over Deng and Noah? I think that makes me sane, not any less of a fan than anybody else.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

I haven't said anything about your comments about Diaw...I am talking about this conversation. Telling me my intent behind my statements when you have no clue what my intentions are...idiotic. I usually criticize what you say, I rarely criticize WHY you say it. I don't have time for that.

And no, I have NEVER been a celebratory fan. I am not a "rah-rah" type of guy. Nor do I see the point in calling other players bitches and pussies all the time...does that make me less of a fan than you or anybody else? I don't think so.

I don't think all fans should have my point of view...do you know how boring that would be??? But I do expect people to make sense. If you are going to say Noah didn't play well against Howard because he was tired, then the same person should say the Heat struggled against the Bulls because they played Howard the night before in an OT game. Is that not fair? I shouldn't see the same guy making excuses for Noah when he plays bad, then when he is part of a victory that is surprising, tell those who picked them to lose (damn near everybody outside this forum) to "suck it".

It was because the Heat had better quality players...AND THEY STILL DO! I am sooooooo not a fan...because I value Howard over Deng and Noah? I think that makes me sane, not any less of a fan than anybody else.

And the saga continues..........:jackson:

 

[Glide2keva]

I haven't said anything about your comments about Diaw...I am talking about this conversation. Telling me my intent behind my statements when you have no clue what my intentions are...idiotic. I usually criticize what you say, I rarely criticize WHY you say it. I don't have time for that.

And no, I have NEVER been a celebratory fan. I am not a "rah-rah" type of guy. Nor do I see the point in calling other players bitches and pussies all the time...does that make me less of a fan than you or anybody else? I don't think so.

I don't think all fans should have my point of view...do you know how boring that would be??? But I do expect people to make sense. If you are going to say Noah didn't play well against Howard because he was tired, then the same person should say the Heat struggled against the Bulls because they played Howard the night before in an OT game. Is that not fair? I shouldn't see the same guy making excuses for Noah when he plays bad, then when he is part of a victory that is surprising, tell those who picked them to lose (damn near everybody outside this forum) to "suck it".

It was because the Heat had better quality players...AND THEY STILL DO! I am sooooooo not a fan...because I value Howard over Deng and Noah? I think that makes me sane, not any less of a fan than anybody else.

I said the Bulls (not just Noah) were tired, not because of a back to back, but because of four games in five nights. And that Orlando were rested.

I don't make excuses for Miami, because **** the Heat. I'm a Bulls fan and they are the enemy.

I also have stated that I would love to see both of these teams face each other with both teams fully healthy. And yeah I said the suck it thing. It wasn't the best thing to do, but I was happy for the win and you say things sometimes when you're excited. You're the only person that had a problem with it.

 

[Frank Breakfast Styleham]

"Mr. MVP" himself admitted last year that with LeBron on him he couldn't do anything.

Yeah, LeBron couldn't find the key to the bathroom in the finals. But as much as I hate to admit it, Rose was owned by LeBron in the Conference Finals.

That is a fact.

If you disagree I would like to refresh your memory.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey6cpTY10UU]NBA Eastern Conference Final 2011 LeBron James Blocks Derrick Rose's Shot - YouTube[/ame]

He hasn't hit a game winner? I don't care. A big block like that is better than a buzzer beater shot.

Swatted that shot like Rose was a teenage girl trying to score on him.

Rose and company didn't need Expedia to get off on their vacation destinations. LeBron hooked em up himself.

How come we don't have any footage of that happening to Jordan with a playoff series on the line?

Isn't that a better representation of what a true MVP is?

Don't get owned in the Conference Finals.

Except that he did.

Repeatedly.

LOL at you still trying to say it was because of traps and help defense.

LeClutch>Rose