Illegal Immigration costs

[MassHavoc]

With all of the stress we had just getting the USCIS to approve our case, the Tijuana express was looking very tempting. I'm all for legal immigration, but man, do they need to streamline the process.

It's funny you say that. Because they have to do it because there are so many immigrants here that cases of defrauding the system to try to make them leagal are way up. Making it only difficult on the people who want to do everything by the book. If we just let everyone be a citizen, then it would be a lot easier. Seeeeee... see what I did there. Now quit your bitching and get that lady to work, I want some taxes damn it.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Supreme Court upholds part of the Arizona Immigration law.



http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2012/0625/Poll-Supreme-Court-ruling-on-Arizona-immigration-may-alienate-Latino-voters

 

[LordKOTL]

It's funny you say that. Because they have to do it because there are so many immigrants here that cases of defrauding the system to try to make them leagal are way up. Making it only difficult on the people who want to do everything by the book. If we just let everyone be a citizen, then it would be a lot easier. Seeeeee... see what I did there. Now quit your bitching and get that lady to work, I want some taxes damn it.

No, I get the "why" they make it so bloody hard. Pre 9/11 the route was Student visas. Post-9/11 it's been Engagement visas. The issue really is that unless you're considered a one in 10,000 expert in your field (of which sports stars count), you're not getting in with a work visa. The odds of the visa lottery are really low. We can't take in everyone but if your chances of making it here are infinitiessimal and the conditions back home suck donkey balls, you'll risk being an illegal.



Maybe I'm being a bastard here, but it seems to me that if we have a bunch of illegal immigrants who want to try for a better life doing menial labor, and we also have a whole shit-ton of deadbeat citizens who are leeching off the system and won't do menial labor, we're keeping the wrong people.



Oh, and she's been working and paying taxes for the past 5 or so months.

Supreme Court upholds part of the Arizona Immigration law.



http://www.csmonitor...e-Latino-voters

I can't argue with the part they upheld and the parts they disallowed. I do see the ACLU having a field day with this one on the profiling angle. Unfortunately a driver's license is not proof of citizenship or proof of legal residence, nor is an accent or being swarthy-looking proof of being from somewhere else. It's just going to take one case of some amrican-born who has an accent and an overzealous cop thinking their license is fake to set off that legal shitstorm.

 

[winos5]

From my understanding the only time the part that was upheld is when they are detained for unrelated reasons. If they are an american citizen that will bear out in the discovery period. No big deal IMO.

 

[LordKOTL]

From my understanding the only time the part that was upheld is when they are detained for unrelated reasons. If they are an american citizen that will bear out in the discovery period. No big deal IMO.

From what I read even something as simple as a traffic stop can give an officer "probable cause" to ask a person to prove their legal status. This is where I see the thing possibly becoming a shitstorm; the 1% of the time. Most cases the person stopped shows their green card and no harm no foul. The one time you have an american citizen stopped, who's only proof of citizenship on them is their license, and a cop who hasn't been laid since the bicentennial wants to make a federal case out of it and a citizen who then feels that the Arizona State Patrol needs to make them independently wealthy; will possibly give this all the reason to blow up into some huge political fiasco which will do nothing but suck AZ taxpayers' wallets dry.