Is this worse than Trestman/Tucker?

[Nail Polish]

Once the defense quits completely it will be. But not yet. Trestman's team challenged the Rochester Jeffersons for ineptitude. In case you are wondering who that is, they don't exist anymore. The sucked so bad they were banned from the league.

Trestman's defenses challenged the 1961 vikings for giving up rush yardage. They challenged the Jeffersons for total team defense.

So, not yet, but if the packers break 30, it's coming to that.

Packers will break 30 in the first half..Then coast the rest of the way

 

[PrideisBears]

Yep

 

[Montucky]

The Trestman years were easy. The Bears were among the NFL’s most competitive teams for the ten years prior, it was definitely like “Oh OK this was a bad hire but they’ll fix it and we’ll get back to where we were under Lovie”…

Now it’s just complete Bears despair. Only haters like me can find joy.

 

[DaaBears]

Phil Emery fired Lovie ( I could stop there and it would be ridiculous enough). And then somehow he thought Marinelli would stay lol. How ridiculous is that. And then he hired Mel Tucker, and completely disrespected Lovie and Marinelli, saying nothing will be lost, we will continue to run their defense. As if that is all defensive coaches do, run their defense. Lowest point in Bears history.

 

[jive]

Phil Emery fired Lovie ( I could stop there and it would be ridiculous enough). And then somehow he thought Marinelli would stay lol. How ridiculous is that. And then he hired Mel Tucker, and completely disrespected Lovie and Marinelli, saying nothing will be lost, we will continue to run their defense. As if that is all defensive coaches do, run their defense. Lowest point in Bears history.

Ryan Poles says hold my beer

One thing that Poles has in common with Emery is decimating the locker room with their decisions.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

What's ironic is here we are, 10 years later playing those exact same teams back-to-back. One could argue that the loss to the Patriots 2024 team is worse than the loss to the team with Brady and Gronk, even if that was a complete beat down. Can't wait to see George's face when a 50 burger gets hung on them Sunday.

 

[Bearly]

Phil Emery fired Lovie ( I could stop there and it would be ridiculous enough). And then somehow he thought Marinelli would stay lol. How ridiculous is that. And then he hired Mel Tucker, and completely disrespected Lovie and Marinelli, saying nothing will be lost, we will continue to run their defense. As if that is all defensive coaches do, run their defense. Lowest point in Bears history.

This... so far but we still have 1/2 a season with a bumpy rail.

It's bad with Flus not owning up to anything and also not doing anything to course correct so far. It will now look like any move now made will be so that he can keep his job and shift blame as opposed to recognizing/owning something. Forced desperation as opposed to proactive. Players can see that and don't respond well to it.

The O is poorly called and coached. The D is well coached but not well disciplined. Tyrique was handled badly. He should have been called out, had the coach give him a what for and started practice and the next game. Flus should have also shared the blame at that time and told the team as much before moving on quickly. Instead, that wierd vibe lingered all week and the team never rallied. I suspect that he handled his OC similarly and made Shakey Shane more rudderless as well. Situational calls are abysmal and that includes as regards the personnel situation.

After the last few games of Caleb's line/play adjustments before the snap and Ds switching on him after the call, there should be some fake adjustments available/forced to him to just run what was originally called against a D that would then be vulnerable after they switch. If they start gaming the D's, D's will stop gaming the O as much etc. That or call better plays that have options to beat whatever a D brings.

 

[jive]

What's ironic is here we are, 10 years later playing those exact same teams back-to-back. One could argue that the loss to the Patriots 2024 team is worse than the loss to the team with Brady and Gronk, even if that was a complete beat down. Can't wait to see George's face when a 50 burger gets hung on them Sunday.

With a GM that used to be in KC, and another first time HC that we hired instead of someone proven.

 

[jive]

This thread is giving me feelings of deja vu

 

[jsu34]

Packers will break 30 in the first half..Then coast the rest of the way

Flus should be fired then.

 

[Nail Polish]

Flus should be fired then.

Absolutely

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

foxx, the fraud, fluser.

check them qb's those coaches ruined or ran off, at least caleb isn't dead, traded or pissed off being a bear...yet.
Foxx was the worst to me, i fucking quitted on this team for 2 years, back then.

In defense of Fox, he had the least talent of the 3 coaches, and he did give us Fangio and one good year of Adam Gase before he got a HC job. Eberflus has fired 3 coordinators in 2 seasons.

 

[bears26]

It is because of the damage this could have done to the Bears rookie QB. A blowout loss to the Packers (which everyone is expecting) and who knows what is going to happen in the locker room.

 

[Myk]

as for drafting Williams, CCS has this unique ability to wish shit into existence. that was one of them.

There was no wishing that into existence. When we had the #1 pick it was just happening.
Obviously Fields was not on Poles to do list since Poles was hired so when the pick was there and it was Williams the pick was Williams.
If anyone wished that into existence it was Poles going all the way back to trading the #1 to get a #1.

If it was up to CCS wishes we would have about 6 QBs including Fields.

 

[Rustysurf83]

It’s way worse. Mostly because it’s the fourth time in a row they’ve done almost the exact same thing. Every staffing decision since George took over has essentially been a disaster.

They fired Lovie after a 10-6 season then have cycled through Trestman, Fox, Nagy, and Flus which essentially screwed Cutler, Trubisky, and Fields. Poles is seemingly doing ok-ish but he’s also supposed to be the one making decisions on this coaching staff and currently has an Oline that was barely addressed and is getting his rookie top overall pick hit at historic rates. Warren was brought in to build a new stadium but that’s seemingly at a complete standstill and his solution is to spend all day meditating and hosting parties in a luxury box. Now players are actively calling out the organization to the media. It’s pure and complete organizational dysfunction from the player, coach, management, executive, and ownership level. Honestly, the White Sox just set the MLB record for losses and have near zero help on the horizon but may be in a better position than the Bears. That’s how sad of a state this franchise is currently in.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

This is way worse and could have been obviously avoided.

 

[DaaBears]

Another scenario is CW does not have it, and players know it, and so do coaches. But nobody can overrule Poles who insists he starts.

Is this the case? Probably not, but who knows, starting to get that feeling. I also thought it was premature to name Caleb Williams as the starter on May 10th.

Anyway, I hope CW and the Bears pull it together. I don't lose sleep over this stuff anymore, but I still want them to win every week, especially against the Packers.

 

[Les Grossman]

Losing back to back games giving up 50+ points? It doesn't get worse than that. Mel Tucker was the worst. Far worse than what's going on now. Ya'll crazy.

 

[Myk]

Another scenario is CW does not have it, and players know it, and so do coaches. But nobody can overrule Poles who insists he starts.

Is this the case? Probably not, but who knows, starting to get that feeling. I also thought it was premature to name Caleb Williams as the starter on May 10th.

Anyway, I hope CW and the Bears pull it together. I don't lose sleep over this stuff anymore, but I still want them to win every week, especially against the Packers.

We've seen too much to say he doesn't have it.
Anyone employed in the NFL making that kind of call mid season his rookie needs to be employed by McDonalds.

Anyone employed by the NFL knows of QBs like Manning. Only fans and some in the media forget that rookies are rookies.

If anyone in the profession is calling it for Williams it is probably because the Bears are involved and that call could've been made as soon as he was drafted.

 

[DaaBears]

We've seen too much to say he doesn't have it.
Anyone employed in the NFL making that kind of call mid season his rookie needs to be employed by McDonalds.

Anyone employed by the NFL knows of QBs like Manning. Only fans and some in the media forget that rookies are rookies.

If anyone in the profession is calling it for Williams it is probably because the Bears are involved and that call could've been made as soon as he was drafted.

Maybe you know, I do not. There was a time that I did know everything going on within the Bears organization. My connections no longer there, so I do not know.