IST: Chicago Cubs (26-38) at Philadelphia Phillies (28-36) (June 13-June 15)

[theberserkfury]

I dont believe in him. I believe in Bosio. He is a great pitching coach.

 

[chibears55]

I dont believe in him. I believe in Bosio. He is a great pitching coach.

not disagreeing that he good but he hasnt helped Edwin Jackson much and travis wood has taken a step back this year

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[Diehardfan]

Strop = Marmol

 

[SilenceS]

not disagreeing that he good but he hasnt helped Edwin Jackson much and travis wood has taken a step back this year

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Wood didnt take a step back. He averaged out. He lives off of soft stuff. Bosio taught him how to be a productive pitcher with his cutter. People went way overboard of what they thought he wpuld be. Jackson has always pitched the same. He has changed nothing. He allows a lot of line drives.

 

[chibears55]

Wood didnt take a step back. He averaged out. He lives off of soft stuff. Bosio taught him how to be a productive pitcher with his cutter. People went way overboard of what they thought he wpuld be. Jackson has always pitched the same. He has changed nothing. He allows a lot of line drives.

averaged out ? wood went from a 3 ERA last yr to near 5 this yr and bosio got the credit for that, so where bosio this year with teaching him to be productive again?

yes Jackson is Jackson but how come bosio hasnt been able to help him even a little ?



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[CSF77]

averaged out ? wood went from a 3 ERA last yr to near 5 this yr and bosio got the credit for that, so where bosio this year with teaching him to be productive again?

yes Jackson is Jackson but how come bosio hasnt been able to help him even a little ?



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You can not shine a turd. :cubspalm:

 

[chibears55]

You can not shine a turd. :cubspalm:

yea I guess.. lol

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[chibears55]

Wow .. neal ramirez don't get that call

Shit, better not blow this now

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[theberserkfury]

Wow .. neal ramirez don't get that call

Shit, better not blow this now

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It can never just be easy...

 

[theberserkfury]

1 run in... tying run at 3rd.

 

[dabynsky]

well that is one win in Philadelphia. Cubs are doing well against NL East this year.

 

[theberserkfury]

Ramirez gets it done.

 

[chibears55]

Nice pitch, rang him up that time ...
Neal ramirez has the making of a good closer

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[SilenceS]

averaged out ? wood went from a 3 ERA last yr to near 5 this yr and bosio got the credit for that, so where bosio this year with teaching him to be productive again?

yes Jackson is Jackson but how come bosio hasnt been able to help him even a little ?



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Wood isnt a 3 ERA pitcher. He was barely a 5 before Bosio got his hands on him. He taught him how to use his cutter which makes him a productive ML pitcher. He had no idea how to use his cutter before Bosio. He was predictable where he would throw it and when he would throw it. As for Jackson, You cant change everyone you get your hands on. What he has done with 1 year fillers is nothing short of remarkable. Maholm, Feldman, Hammel. He has taken a not very talented staff and has kept them real respectable since he has been here. I would love to see what he could do with some talent.

 

[theberserkfury]

Wood isnt a 3 ERA pitcher. He was barely a 5 before Bosio got his hands on him. He taught him how to use his cutter which makes him a productive ML pitcher. He had no idea how to use his cutter before Bosio. He was predictable where he would throw it and when he would throw it. As for Jackson, You cant change everyone you get your hands on. What he has done with 1 year fillers is nothing short of remarkable. Maholm, Feldman, Hammel. He has taken a not very talented staff and has kept them real respectable since he has been here. I would love to see what he could do with some talent.

Shark and Arrieta don't qualify?

 

[chibears55]

Wood isnt a 3 ERA pitcher. He was barely a 5 before Bosio got his hands on him. He taught him how to use his cutter which makes him a productive ML pitcher. He had no idea how to use his cutter before Bosio. He was predictable where he would throw it and when he would throw it. As for Jackson, You cant change everyone you get your hands on. What he has done with 1 year fillers is nothing short of remarkable. Maholm, Feldman, Hammel. He has taken a not very talented staff and has kept them real respectable since he has been here. I would love to see what he could do with some talent.

im not saying he is a 3 ERA , just saying if he was able to help him last year what happened this year ?

did he stop watching and helping him be more productive with the cutter ? did he stop showing him how to be effective another way ?

it one thing if he just went from a low 3 ERA to a high 3-4.0 but he jumped all the way up to a 4.9-5.

again, not saying bosio not a good coach just originally asked why travis wood hasn't been able to carry over what he did/learned last year into this year. if bosio a " great" coach who been able to help pitchers turn it around ? is it just a lucky 1 year fix ?

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[chibears55]

Mike Olt number 10... hopefully this gets him going a bit

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[SilenceS]

im not saying he is a 3 ERA , just saying if he was able to help him last year what happened this year ?

did he stop watching and helping him be more productive with the cutter ? did he stop showing him how to be effective another way ?

it one thing if he just went from a low 3 ERA to a high 3-4.0 but he jumped all the way up to a 4.9-5.

again, not saying bosio not a good coach just originally asked why travis wood hasn't been able to carry over what he did/learned last year into this year. if bosio a " great" coach who been able to help pitchers turn it around ? is it just a lucky 1 year fix ?

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His year was lucky last year and this year it isnt. His Fip and xFIP is not to far off. He is throwing more ground balls but his BABIP is almost 80 points higher then last year. He is K'ing people more this year but always allowing more walks and homers. Wood had a lucky season, but he was a quality pitcher. He will still be a quality pitcher, but all his numbers last year past ERA said he was going to even out at some time. It just so happens to be the first two months so far. Bosio doesnt teach Wood how to use his cutter. Wood most likely wouldnt have a job in the majors or would be in a fight for a spot.

 

[nwfisch]

Yep. Didn't have any room for Marlon Byrd on this roster.

 

[SilenceS]

Cubs getting back into it one solo shot at a time. 3 on the day. 4-3 Phils