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With all the talk of Miller and Chapman I still think they'll end up trading for someone else entirely. Doolittle is an option but he's going to cost something too and would make more sense as part of a larger package. The guy that makes the most sense to me a LHP out the pen is Fernando Abad of the Twins. He's under team control for one more year after this and you would think he could had without touching your top 10 prospects and lefties are only hitting .139 against him.
 

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With all the talk of Miller and Chapman I still think they'll end up trading for someone else entirely. Doolittle is an option but he's going to cost something too and would make more sense as part of a larger package. The guy that makes the most sense to me a LHP out the pen is Fernando Abad of the Twins. He's under team control for one more year after this and you would think he could had without touching your top 10 prospects and lefties are only hitting .139 against him.

Like Doolittle. Not sure if they need a bigger package in return. Not with Contreras in LF now. He is going to get his playing time in and Joe is not going to make the staff suffer for it.

What is the most likely situation up coming is Soler frees up and they tie him and Vogelbach together and see who they can buy. With that resolved when Fowler gets back Almora goes back to AAA. It seems like the experiment is over anyways with Szczur starting today and them leaning on Heyward and Cog more.
 

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The cubs bullpen has the 13th best ERA in baseball at 3.70. Only teams with better ERAs are KC, BAL, LAD, WAS, HOU, SEA, CLE, NYM, CHI, BOS, MIA and SF. And to be honest it's not even that wide a gap. The difference between the cubs and #5 Houston(3.22) is half a run. Additionally, the schedule for the next bit is fairly brutal. From june 17th through July 10th(All-star break) cubs play 24 straight days. If their starters don't go deep the bullpen is going to look bad because they aren't going to get rest. They need a guy who can get lefties out but people are blowing the need way out of proportion. They've given up 83 earned in 202.0 innings. The breakdown of that is as follows

Justin Grimm - 18 ER 26.2 IP
Adam Warren - 13 ER 25.2 IP
Trevor Cahill - 10 ER 32.2 IP
Pedro Strop - 10 ER 30.1 IP
Clayton Richard - 10 ER 12.1 IP
Travis Wood - 8 ER 31.0 IP
Hector Rondon - 4 ER 26.0 IP
Neil Ramirez - 4 ER 7.2 IP
Spencer Patton - 3 ER 4.0 IP
Carl Edwards Jr. - 1 ER 2.2 IP
Gerardo Concepcion - 1 ER 2.1 IP
Joel Peralta - 1 ER 0.2 IP

If we assume at some point soon Richard is gone and exclude Ramirez as he's no longer with the organization you're talking about 69 runs in 182.0 IP or a 3.41 ERA. If you also ditch Grimm or he just gets better that's down to 51 runs in 155.1 IP or a 2.96 ERA. Top 3 bullpens are KC(2.77), O's(2.91) and Dodgers(3.02). The majority of Richard's time was vs lefties(36 of 63 batters faced 57%). Whoever replaces Richard is going to see the bulk of lefties. Only one other pitcher has seen 40% or more lefties and that's Wood at 52%. Richard was by definition a lefty specialist albeit not a very good one. Replacing that with a Chapman or Miller just doesn't make sense to me. You're not going to burn one of those two for 1 tough lefty in a line up the way you would a lefty specialist and as mentioned Wood is the only other reliever you have that predominantly pitches to lefties.

That's why they strike me as overkill. Undoubtedly they are good pitchers but the reason they make so much money is you pay them to get through the 8th/9th not to get one out when your starter gets into a jam and a lefty comes up. It's an entirely different role that what Richard was here for.

The Cubs have lost six of seven games entering Monday. Chicago relievers have allowed 11 earned runs on 15 hits over 10 2/3 innings over the team's last four losses. The Cubs' bullpen ERA has risen over each month of the season, from 2.72 in April to 3.80 in May to its June mark of 4.21.
 

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The Cubs have lost six of seven games entering Monday. Chicago relievers have allowed 11 earned runs on 15 hits over 10 2/3 innings over the team's last four losses. The Cubs' bullpen ERA has risen over each month of the season, from 2.72 in April to 3.80 in May to its June mark of 4.21.
Yea.. I think some on here need to stop looking at what they've done in April and May and focus more on what they been doing lately...



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The Cubs have lost six of seven games entering Monday. Chicago relievers have allowed 11 earned runs on 15 hits over 10 2/3 innings over the team's last four losses. The Cubs' bullpen ERA has risen over each month of the season, from 2.72 in April to 3.80 in May to its June mark of 4.21.

They have played 11 straight days and their starters haven't gone deep into games lately. Their bullpen is likely worn out. Additionally, their bullpen didn't lose those games. Their starters did.
 

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Hopefully, second time through the order they time him better. They should crush him. He is everything they hit.
 

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I don't think Russell arm gets Hamilton for that DP

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I don't think Russell arm gets Hamilton for that DP

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Not sure because he was out by a step, but Baez arm is def. stronger than Russell. Im not sure anyone on the team has a stronger arm.
 

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Why does it seem like we struggle against pitchers that have ERA over 4 ?
They should be crushing this guy

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Our pitchers must help themselves more than anyone in the league.
 

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Heyward should bat 12nd
 

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I don't know if this is by design or just how the game played out but Lester is doing what the cubs staff really needs right now. 60 pitches through 5 gives him a reasonable shot at a complete game or at leas 7-8 innings.
 

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Our pitchers must help themselves more than anyone in the league.

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Jon Lester singled home the Cubs second run of the game giving their pitchers 19 RBI, one behind San Francisco pitchers for most in baseball by a pitching staff. Cubs pitchers also rank second in home runs (2) and second in batting average.
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I've given up on hoping Heyward turns it around..
If he does great, but every time you think he turns the corner he back to hitting like shit..

He went from going 12-36 .333 for a 8 game stretch, 8 games ago .. To now 6-30 .200 in last 8 including today.

Eventually Maddon got to hit him down in order, maybe when Fowler returns they can go Fowler and Zobrist 1-2.

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Not sure because he was out by a step, but Baez arm is def. stronger than Russell. Im not sure anyone on the team has a stronger arm.

Russell has one of the fastest transitions I've ever seen. From glove to throw is extremely fast. What ever extra speed Baez gets is negated by Russell's exchange.

Russell is a smoother defender also. Baez makes more flashy plays.
 

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I've given up on hoping Heyward turns it around..
If he does great, but every time you think he turns the corner he back to hitting like shit..

He went from going 12-36 .333 for a 8 game stretch, 8 games ago .. To now 6-30 .200 in last 8 including today.

Eventually Maddon got to hit him down in order, maybe when Fowler returns they can go Fowler and Zobrist 1-2.

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You can't just look at 1 game. Guys have bad days. Yesterday he got a few hits. Most likely he is not seeing this starter as well as Straily
 

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They have played 11 straight days and their starters haven't gone deep into games lately. Their bullpen is likely worn out. Additionally, their bullpen didn't lose those games. Their starters did.

Grimm: apr 7 games 2.57 ERA. May 15 games 4.58 ERA. June 13 games 12.27 ERA. This was the main 7th inning guy last year.

If I can point my finger at 1 guy this is it. This has caused a vacuum in MR.
 

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