IST: Cubs V Cubbie North

[CSF77]

This is gonna suck if they end up losing this one..
Be 2 and 3 against the worse team in baseball cause of the pitching

Cubs are running 2 #5's. Hammel is a #4. But he has been the most constant performer to date.

I'm still on the fence with Arrieta though. When Lester was struggling he stepped up as the ace. Last 2 games Lester has looked the ace part and then Arrieta has his worst 2 outings. It is a head scratchier for sure.

 

[chibears55]

Jackson about to give up a couple more runs here. ..

 

[CSF77]

Game over call it

 

[SilenceS]

The pitching has officially imploded. Wada is gonna get a shot and Turner should as well when healthy. Wood stuff was disgusting tonight. Looked like softballs being tossed to the plate.

 

[chibears55]

Now its coke turn to give up a couple..

Pretty sad when you go from your arguably worse starter to your 2 worse bullpen pitchers...

Your offense gets you 4 early runs and your basically forced to give this game up cause your starter gives up 6 in 4 innings and your better bullpen pitchers are gassed

 

[chibears55]

The pitching has officially imploded. Wada is gonna get a shot and Turner should as well when healthy. Wood stuff was disgusting tonight. Looked like softballs being tossed to the plate.

I dont think they can count on Turner til about July the earliest, he on 60 day DL.. besides, i dont see him being any better then wood or hendricks. ..

They have Wada , Roach, and Loux to turn to from the system now if they want..

 

[SilenceS]

]I dont think they can count on Turner til about July the earliest, he on 60 day DL.. besides, i dont see him being any better then wood or hendricks. ..
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They have Wada , Roach, and Loux to turn to from the system now if they want..

Turner is 23 and was a top prospect. He has his velocity back and has way better stuff then both of them. It wont be to hard to be better then them.

 

[chibears55]

Turner is 23 and was a top prospect. He has his velocity back and has way better stuff then both of them. It wont be to hard to be better then them.

Im sure there room for improvement being just 23 , but so far his resume hasn't been all that good. .

61 Games 300 IP 4.97 ERA 1.46 Whip

 

[Shawon0Meter]

If the Brewers are the worst team in baseball and the Cubs lose back to back series to them, what does that make the Cubs??

 

[SilenceS]

Im sure there room for improvement being just 23 , but so far his resume hasn't been all that good. .

61 Games 300 IP 4.97 ERA 1.46 Whip

3.74 ERA at 22 in 118 innings for the Marlins.

Lost some velocity and had a down year. Marlins released to the shock of the whole Major Leagues. Cubs grabbed him. His velocity reappeared this off season.

I dont know if he gets over this injury, but this is an ex top 25 prospect that is a groundball pitcher. He has a lot more potential then Wood and Hendricks. A lot more.

 

[SilenceS]

If the Brewers are the worst team in baseball and the Cubs lose back to back series to them, what does that make the Cubs??

Makes it baseball and losing half your games still can keep you in the hunt for the playoffs.

 

[CSF77]

So Ross was able to get through a inning with out giving up a run....wow that is great.

So Turner: His injury was due to him changing his arm slot. The new slot was producing a fastball in the mid 90's vs the low 90's. But it caused his current wrist/forearm issue (I believe that is the case. So his body has to adapt to the new movement. I would not expect much this year out of him as his body has to adjust to the new arm slot still. But it could be a turning point in his career.

What will help the most right now is getting Ramirez back. As far as fixing the rotation I still believe they need to pay up in prospects and go after Cole Hamels. If they pay out Baez, Vogelbach, and 2 arms with Philly taking some contract back (or maybe Wood and his deal and no contract taken off). That alone puts the rotation at Hamels in between Arrieta and Hammel in the rotation. Right now that is where he is slotting at on their on games. After the break they could reset it.

I've said this team is a .500 team at best right now. Lester is on, Arrieta is off. Hammel has been pretty solid. Wood putts up crappers then 1 gem here and there. Hendricks has been a AAAA pitcher up to this point. The pen has been off and on. Every win recently has almost be blown up one way or another. Today was a case of Wood being subpar and Jackson regressing to his old self and then Coke has been a shit bag all year long. Matters little at that point as Wood couldn't contain crap.

All I can say is I'm not expecting much out of Hendricks and we can hope Lester can stop the damage again. Eh ghad

 

[beckdawg]

Makes it baseball and losing half your games still can keep you in the hunt for the playoffs.

Exactly, division winners only win 55% of their games.

 

[CSF77]

Exactly, division winners only win 55% of their games.

90 wins is 55.55555%

AL East: Yanks: 19-12, Tampa 17-14, Jays 16-15 rest under .500
AL Central: KC 19-11, Tigers 19-12, Twins 18-13 rest under .500
AL West: Stroes 20-11 rest under

What a wanky year...... Who would have though that the stroes would be there. And the Twins for that matter.

NL East: Mets 19-11, Nats 16-15 rest under
NL Central: Cards 22-8, Cubs 15-14, Reds 15-15
NL West: Dodgers 19-10, Pads 17-15

If you look at it .500 is keeping them in it right now. It is not like there is just 1 wild Card anymore (err the Red Sox clause)

What I'm seeing is a changing of the guard. Younger teams are starting to take over this year. Stroes, Twins, Cubs, Mets. LAD and Yanks will be in the mix due to their buying power. Tampa is a head scratchier due to them losing too much front office and field management. I can't see them good for too long with their market draw. Should be a last time seeing them doing anything in that division. (team should get moved to a bigger baseball draw market as Tampa sucks as fan draw goes)

Was thinking Nashville. You always look at football markets to see if they can support a baseball market. Also areas like Florida and San Diego are bad summer sports areas due to basically the Ocean. Too much to do vs not as many options going on. Areas like Nashville are ripe for sports because,,well it is land locked.

 

[CSF77]

5. David Ross, Chicago Cubs: The best highlight from the Cubs-Brewers game was not Kris Bryant hitting his first major league home run. It was not the Brewers pasting the Cubs, 12-4 behind Khris Davis and Gerardo Parra. It was Ross becoming the second nonpitcher to take the mound this season and retiring three Brewers on 11 pitches in the eighth inning. The veteran catcher threw nothing but – ahem – fastballs that ranged from 59 mph to a blistering 79 mph. He and Oakland’s Ike Davis, the other nonpitcher to pitch this season, have combined to set down six straight hitters. Scoring is up slightly this year (4.23 runs per game, versus 4.07 in 2014), but don't blame the nonpitchers.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/57967/saturdays-power-rankings

 

[Zvbxrpl]

Exactly, division winners only win 55% of their games.

But they don't win divisions with the 12th ranked starting pitching pitching in the NL and 23rd overall.

Kick Wood and Hendricks to the curb and find some talent quick.

 

[Diehardfan]

Look, they are not a championship team but are probably just on the border of being a contender for possibly a wild card. Theo didn't get where he's at being stupid and will not pillage his hand built farm system in search of some pitchers on the backend of their careers that might possibily be immediate help. If anything I propose doing the opposite like dumping the useless guys already here that are clearly sliding out of the league like Coke and Jackson. With Ramieriz, LaStella and others on the mend and returning, we might just see that sooner than later anyways.

 

[SilenceS]

Boy, I wish they had an angle of Rizzo at first on that play. Segura made a tremendous play on Montero but it seemed like Rizzo took forever to get to second and was out by a good bit. He had to range far into the hole and full out dive. Got to his knees and still got Rizzo at second by a decent margin.

 

[SilenceS]

Soler still has no idea about the breaking ball. Love the kid but they keep throwing you the same sliders in the same spot and you have no recognition of the pitch.

 

[chibears55]

Late to the party. . Hendricks numbers looks good and just 85 pitches, why the early hook.. he dont look happy either in dugout