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beckdawg

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They are paying him 9 mil to give what Alcantara would have in CF if they stayed status que. I call it a disappointing decision.

They are paying Edwin Jackson $11 mil a year to be a mop up guy. Can't really factor money in like that after the decision is made. Also, I am about as much of a homer for Alcantara as anyone but to sit here and say he would put up those numbers I think is a stretch. He couldn't hit for shit to start the year which for me especially was a huge disappointment. I was thinking he'd put up a 3 fWAR year at 2B and make some of the talk about Baez die down. Can't win them all I suppose. And even after being sent down it took him a good 2 or so weeks before he starting doing anything.

I had this exact same conversation about Coghlan 2 months ago when everyone and their mother was tearing him down. There's nothing in Fowler's underlying numbers that suggest he's playing any worse than last year. Last year his isolated power was .122. This year it's .136. Last year his bb/k rate were 13.1%/21.4%(pretty much in line with his career numbers). This year he's at 9.7%/22.0% and while his walk rate is slightly down this article suggests it's more to do with the umpire strike zone than anything he's doing. Fowler's contact type is in some ways better than last year. Last year his rates were 19.8%/50.9%/29.3% soft/medium/hard. This year he's at 17.8%/58.1%24.1%. So he's moved away from both ends more to the middle. I would suggest his hard contact rate is being influenced by the strike zone though because obviously if you're at 2 strikes more you swing more defensively. Fowlers BABIP this year sits at .284 which is 57 points lower than his career .341 BABIP and 10 off what it was last year. In 373 PAs he's matched both his HR and SB total from last year when he had in 505 PAs. Oh and his defense in wrigely has been vastly superior to what it was in Houston.

In other words, Fowler is a text book definition of a buy low guy for the second half. Even if you want to go pretty conservative on his second half and say his BABIP only comes up 20 points you're still talking about a .253/.330 hitter which isn't franchise changing but it would make him the 13th best CF in the league in terms of OBP. Even at $9 mil that is extremely cheap. He's presently at 0.7 fWAR. If he doubles that in the second half at 1.4 you're looking at him being worth around 2-2.5 wins. Keep in mind that Coghlan right now is worth 1.6 fWAR hitting .245/.341/.407 so that's well within reach for Fowler. In FA wins cost about $7 mil a piece. So, he'd essentially be worth some where between $14 and $17 mil give or take in FA which is probably enough to QO him after the season honestly.
 

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Hell, they're paying $155 million to a guy who at the moment isn't even a .500 pitcher. It's baseball...shit happens, a lot of it is unforeseen. You find a guy who has 20/20 foresight and the world is yours....but that is not gonna happen.
 

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Any word on what the line up is today?

Chicago Cubs Lineup

1. Dexter Fowler, CF

2. Kris Bryant, 3B

3. Anthony Rizzo, 1B

4. Jorge Soler, RF

5. Chris Denorfia, LF

6. Starlin Castro, SS

7. David Ross, C

8. Jon Lester, P

9. Addison Russell, 2B
 

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I might sound stupid in saying this, but I want to see more line drives from Bryant. Every fly ball he hits it really high and it gives outfielders a lot of time track them down
 

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Soler is really disappointing thus far this season.
 

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Cubs have scored.

Did they forget Lester was pitching?

That's better than 5 games in which Lester has started, and as good as two others. Not while he was on the mound, but the entire game.
 

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Hell, they're paying $155 million to a guy who at the moment isn't even a .500 pitcher. It's baseball...shit happens, a lot of it is unforeseen. You find a guy who has 20/20 foresight and the world is yours....but that is not gonna happen.
He pitched alot better then his record indicates. .

Given up 3 runs or less in 5 of the 8 losses. ..

He not getting much run support, i believe he was 2nd lowest amongst starters with 100 IP...
 

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He pitched alot better then his record indicates. .

Given up 3 runs or less in 5 of the 8 losses. ..

He not getting much run support, i believe he was 2nd lowest amongst starters with 100 IP...

Five times they have been shut out. Two more times they have scored 1. Three more times, two. So 10 of his 18 starts they have scored two or fewer.
 

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I really wanted Manny from the Yanks. Not sure how Atl got him.
 

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On January 1, 2015, Banuelos was traded to the Atlanta Braves for pitchers David Carpenter and Chasen Shreve.[14]
 

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David Ross should give lester his salary for still having a job...
Avg, down to .175 after tonight 0fer effort...

.216. .184. .175. 29 RBI in last 3 seasons
 

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