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Davis has pitched in one game in the last 9 days....what, are you saving him for Christmas?

How about for the 3 inning saves in the playoffs. No you are making sure he can pitch in close games today and tomorrow. Why let these hitters see more of him? Are you expecting Joe to ride him hard and put him away wet and move on next season like he did Chapman?
 

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Blinded by Cardinal hate. He's had all of about 200 extra base hits in his entire career....over 3000 ABs. Why do you expect him to suddenly have power? He does what he's supposed to do....get on base .373 and score runs...59 of them. If he played a full season, he scores 100. He doesn't have a great glove but I'm sure the Cubs knew that going in. Asking this guy to be a power hitter is like asking Hendricks to throw a 100 MPH fastball. He is what he is and I'm fairly certain the Cubs are happy at what he's bringing to the table.

I don't expect him to suddenly have power. And I don't need all power guys in my lineup. But his lack of power means he has to make it up elsewhere.

You, yourself, say we knew he didn't have a good glove.

So how then do you say he is great? No power. No glove.

Runs? He has scored 59, and you extrapolate that to 100 in a full season, implying he has played 59% of our games. Try more like 80%.

On the 5th highest scoring team in MLB (and two of the top four have scored ONE more run)

He scored TWO in the recent 4 game stretch in which we scored 47, BTW. TWO players scored 4 or more in a game during that time.

You simultaneously ask me why I expect more if I knew what he was, while implying more. I don't expect more. He VERY LITERALLY is going to EXACTLY match what I predicted. THAT is the point.

I KNOW what he is, and I know he won't be more. And unlike many, I recognize his actual contributions, and don't somehow multiply them for no reason.

He is average. or less, by every baseball definition of the word. I just try foolishly and unsuccessfully, to get others to honestly look at his output, and see it for what it is and what it isn't.

I am not rooting against him, but I would like to see someone else get more time.

People here rip Schwarber all day long because he is below expectations, while praising jay who is AT expectations, but fail to realize Schwarber is still the guy who is more productive, even with a terrible batting average.

Taking Jay off this team would be like pulling a stick out of water. It would leave no hole whatsoever.
 

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I believe their also 2nd in HRs to the Mets in NL..

I'd like to see a break down with the runs scored..
Seems like they had so many games where they struggled to get runs, just curious to see if they have a large amount of games where they scored like 7 or more and 10 or more...

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They have scored double digits 12 times since the break, including 2 17's, 15, 14....lots of big numbers, unfortunately followed by shutouts a few times.

But the offense in the second half has been prolific. (6 more runs in that Brewers series would have been nice)
 

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contrares suspended 2 games for the mask hitting the umps shin guard.

We all thought Wilson was the key in the trade, it was really Avila.
 

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contrares suspended 2 games for the mask hitting the umps shin guard.

We all thought Wilson was the key in the trade, it was really Avila.

I don't react much to this kind of stuff but 2 games is absurd. A fine, sure. A suspension for throwing his mask down and it "hit" the ump? Such bullshit!
 

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contrares suspended 2 games for the mask hitting the umps shin guard.

We all thought Wilson was the key in the trade, it was really Avila.

I'll say what i did then. I'm not convinced Avila was worth the squeeze. Compare him and Rivera who they literally got for a waiver claim. Rivera is hittin .353/.421/.559 as a cub.
 

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Well, well, well....that's a pretty long winded post about a guy you hate. I would think it wouldn't be worth your time but apparently that's not the case. Let's start by saying that I don't believe another poster here, other than you, has said that Jay is a complete waste. So you must obviously be the only one here that doesn't see what the rest of us are seeing. You were asked this by Matt360..."Can you tell me what YOU would consider playing well?"

Your response..."Ops. Power. Score some runs. Drive somebody in. Play D. Have a clue."

Now you completely contradict that in the post below.


I don't expect him to suddenly have power. And I don't need all power guys in my lineup. But his lack of power means he has to make it up elsewhere.

You just said it's what he needed to play well.

You, yourself, say we knew he didn't have a good glove.

So how then do you say he is great? No power. No glove.

Please show me just one time that I ever said he was great. Just one.

Runs? He has scored 59, and you extrapolate that to 100 in a full season, implying he has played 59% of our games. Try more like 80%.

You can't estimate totals on games played by a secondary player. You base it on AB's....full season, 600 AB's, at the pace he's going...103 runs.

On the 5th highest scoring team in MLB (and two of the top four have scored ONE more run)

He scored TWO in the recent 4 game stretch in which we scored 47, BTW. TWO players scored 4 or more in a game during that time.

If you're talking the last four games where they scored 47...one game he didn't play in, another he was a PH and he started the other two. He ended up going 4 for 10 with 3 runs scored and 3 driven in. Wow...he was just awful. In the future, you might want to get the numbers right.

You simultaneously ask me why I expect more if I knew what he was, while implying more. I don't expect more. He VERY LITERALLY is going to EXACTLY match what I predicted. THAT is the point.

I've not implied anything...just a guess that Theo didn't sign him thinking he was the next Trout. He's done what he was signed to do...to me that's a good signing.

I KNOW what he is, and I know he won't be more. And unlike many, I recognize his actual contributions, and don't somehow multiply them for no reason.

He is average. or less, by every baseball definition of the word. I just try foolishly and unsuccessfully, to get others to honestly look at his output, and see it for what it is and what it isn't.

I am not rooting against him, but I would like to see someone else get more time.

Oh, you most certainly are. Never hear from you on his good games, only when you deem him useless.

People here rip Schwarber all day long because he is below expectations, while praising jay who is AT expectations, but fail to realize Schwarber is still the guy who is more productive, even with a terrible batting average.

Well, we can agree on something. I have never ripped Schwarber, ever. He's my favorite Cub...please don't confuse my posts with Chibears55.

Taking Jay off this team would be like pulling a stick out of water. It would leave no hole whatsoever.

An opinion not shared by many. He's a secondary player, a backup and he's done a good job. He's done what has been asked of him...you can't ask for more than that.
 

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How about for the 3 inning saves in the playoffs. No you are making sure he can pitch in close games today and tomorrow. Why let these hitters see more of him? Are you expecting Joe to ride him hard and put him away wet and move on next season like he did Chapman?

You mean the Cardinals have never seen him before...shocking. Oh, wait. You must not be counting the 7 other times he faced them this year. And Joe is just riding him into the ground, isn't he? Yesterday was he 52nd appearance in 147 games. LOL, I see you'e still living up to that moniker.
 

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I don't react much to this kind of stuff but 2 games is absurd. A fine, sure. A suspension for throwing his mask down and it "hit" the ump? Such bullshit!

Yeah, and all instigated by an umpire not doing his job. Why is the umpire not suspended?
 

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Yeah, and all instigated by an umpire not doing his job. Why is the umpire not suspended?

Wait.....didnt some clown say yest that the non strike 3 call for the 3rd out had no bearing on the game?

Wrong then...now it continues for 2 more games as our catcher is suspended.
 

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Gary Sanchez got 3 for punching not one, but two defenseless players in a brawl.

But he initially got 4, reduced to 3. Look for Contreras' to be reduced. Simply ludicrous.
 

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Well, well, well....that's a pretty long winded post about a guy you hate. I would think it wouldn't be worth your time but apparently that's not the case. Let's start by saying that I don't believe another poster here, other than you, has said that Jay is a complete waste. So you must obviously be the only one here that doesn't see what the rest of us are seeing. You were asked this by Matt360..."Can you tell me what YOU would consider playing well?"

Your response..."Ops. Power. Score some runs. Drive somebody in. Play D. Have a clue."

Now you completely contradict that in the post below.

What I hate is fans embellishing players' performances, and twisting meanings of others words when proven wrong.

That is all it is on the board this year, as most fled - for good reason.

(Well, that and the fact that many only post when things are bad)
 

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Wait.....didnt some clown say yest that the non strike 3 call for the 3rd out had no bearing on the game?

Wrong then...now it continues for 2 more games as our catcher is suspended.
Seriously???
A person who hardly ever posts on the Cubs board going to turn to name calling now over an opinion..
LMAO

Is that what happens to you when you have an opinion some disagrees with..
They call you ?????




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What I hate is fans twisting meanings of others words when proven wrong.

That is all it is on the board this year, as most fled - for good reason.

(Well, that and the fact that many only post when things are bad)

You don't say....
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Meanwhile, in baseball.....DeJong takes a ball above the knees, right over the plate, for a ball. Hendricks said nothing.
 

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Meanwhile, in baseball.....DeJong takes a ball above the knees, right over the plate, for a ball. Hendricks said nothing.

Ive been saying it till im blue in the face. Set a strike zone and let today's tech monitor it.....they can super impose the pitch tracker on the Jumbotron or make a seperate billboard for it. I don't give a **** how they do it but get those sorry old bastards out from behind the plate.
 

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How about for the 3 inning saves in the playoffs. No you are making sure he can pitch in close games today and tomorrow. Why let these hitters see more of him? Are you expecting Joe to ride him hard and put him away wet and move on next season like he did Chapman?
Davis won't be doing any 3 inning saves in post season..
If needed at most 2 innings and more so 4 outs

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Russell was Activated today, probably see him get an AB today and start tomorrow..

Arrieta had a good bullpen session today, possible he starts on Wednesday, as of now no one scheduled that day

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Cool Hand Kyle

Nice job getting out of that bases loaded jam

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