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Over! Lose. Cardinals defense and are early miscues and late miscues cost us. Another winnable game.
 

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Why do teams just play stupid against this Cardinal team? I don't get it. You've lived all season on the long ball....now you're a running team? WTF is going on?
 

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Why do teams just play stupid against this Cardinal team? I don't get it. You've lived all season on the long ball....now you're a running team? WTF is going on?
Because they haven't lived all season on the long ball.
 

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Eh, my thinking is I understand Berry has never been caught and Cruz just came in the game, but Rosenthal throws a 100 and its not going to be in the dirt. The play is going to be close. You are just looking just to that split second ahead.
 

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He's probably done one of the best managing jobs in Cub history this year....but Joe and his staff should take a long look in the mirror after this one.
 

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He's probably done one of the best managing jobs in Cub history this year....but Joe and his staff should take a long look in the mirror after this one.
Eh.. and if Soler grounds into a DP, your piss because he didn't try to steal with the guy...

He gave Soler a couple pitches to do something and also let runner get a read ...

A perfect throw got him, it happens
 

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He's probably done one of the best managing jobs in Cub history this year....but Joe and his staff should take a long look in the mirror after this one.

I don't disagree but everybody is human. In hindsight that game 2 weeks ago and this one were winnable games and had they won both we'd be in a much different discussion right now. They didn't and this is how it is. Pittsburgh is very catchable and this team can still win 94-95 wins fairly easily. Now I want to see these bastards in the NLDS...
 

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The call to steal wasn't a bad one. Rosenthal has been exceptional all year at limiting XBH (only 8 given up in 64 innings) and Berry's probably safe if he gets a better jump or lead, the pitch isn't 100MPH fastball, or the catcher doesn't make a perfect throw.

The bigger issue for me is once again the Cubs fail to deliver runs with men on second/third and less than two outs.
 

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I don't disagree but everybody is human. In hindsight that game 2 weeks ago and this one were winnable games and had they won both we'd be in a much different discussion right now. They didn't and this is how it is. Pittsburgh is very catchable and this team can still win 94-95 wins fairly easily. Now I want to see these bastards in the NLDS...

That's it? We going to the Series, baby! Cards can have this game. Wait til we meet in October.
 

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The call to steal wasn't a bad one. Rosenthal has been exceptional all year at limiting XBH (only 8 given up in 64 innings) and Berry's probably safe if he gets a better jump or lead, the pitch isn't 100MPH fastball, or the catcher doesn't make a perfect throw.

The bigger issue for me is once again the Cubs fail to deliver runs with men on second/third and less than two outs.

That is the Kubs way, though. Always has been.
 

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Agreed on both although I do wonder if the situational hitting can be solved this year. These kids can do that or they might not they've been up and down with it all year. As far as leaving the past in the past; hell yes. I don't want to hear about that at all. This is a new team, new ownership and new management since they contended last. There is no correlation whatsoever. Uniforms don't dictate how you hit.
 

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Agreed. That was a ball he should have caught.

Rizzo's D lately has been shaky.
A friend and I were discussing yesterday that Rizzo might need a rest. The Brewer series might be a good time to give him a blow. Wondering who would take over at 1B. Coghlan? Bryant? LaStella? Olt? Oh wait...
 

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He's probably done one of the best managing jobs in Cub history this year....but Joe and his staff should take a long look in the mirror after this one.
You mean they may want to pitch Haren instead of Lester so they could give up 3 runs in the first inning?
 

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A friend and I were discussing yesterday that Rizzo might need a rest. The Brewer series might be a good time to give him a blow. Wondering who would take over at 1B. Coghlan? Bryant? LaStella? Olt? Oh wait...
Coghlan or Schwarber.
 

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You mean they may want to pitch Haren instead of Lester so they could give up 3 runs in the first inning?

What is that gibberish? I was making reference to the staff (3b coach) sending Rizzo against the Card's best arm on a medium deep fly ball and Joe's decision to run Berry on a hit n run with Soler(not a good contact guy IMOP)...which I didn't think was necessary. No idea what Haren has to do with this game at all.
 

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It was bad enough that Jason Heyward came to his feet an collided with Russell after being out at 2nd.

But Yadi tried to roll Russell after sliding completely to the side to 2nd. I have no issue sliding and trying to break up a DP. But springing to your feet and trying to roll a SS like D Linemen try to do to QB's? Pure bullshit baseball. Dirty and typical of that team.

It will be Karma if they find out Yadi won't be back due to his thumb injury.
 

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What is that gibberish? I was making reference to the staff (3b coach) sending Rizzo against the Card's best arm on a medium deep fly ball and Joe's decision to run Berry on a hit n run with Soler(not a good contact guy IMOP)...which I didn't think was necessary. No idea what Haren has to do with this game at all.
I know what you were referencing. Sending the player wouldn't have have mattered if the big FA pitcher and defense had performed better in the first inning.
 

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