IST: Cubs vs Pirates(Home Opener)

[CSF77]

Duncan Robinson pitched another good game. It would be outside the box but he has kinda deserved a look at the big league level. Put in 6 innings tonight.

It would take a 40 man move. Always an issue.

40 man off the MLB:

Alzolay IL (maybe a 60 day if it persists)
Barnette DL (not sure why they got him honestly)
Cedeno: Kinda expect him as the 2nd lefty eventually.
Collins: Another depth guy. IMO waste of resource.
Norwood: Actually good enough to be a temp filler.
Underwood...welp
Wick: Roster waste.
Mills: Haven't seen him pitch yet. on Iowa's active list so not sure.

So I would make some 40 man moves myself. Move Robinson and Mekkes on and 2 of Wick, Collins Barnette off. All were pointless adds. Wick and Collins make the most sense. Barnette has a decent history going for him.


I just don't like the simple answer. Chatwood then promote Underwood to piggy back. Not a fan of it and it is a missed opportunity with Robinson. He pitched 6 inning today and that is kinda a big deal right now. A starter getting more miles with a abused pen.

But until then Norwood 0.00 ERA Not hurting himself 2IP 1 BB 1 SO. I would prefer Mekkes 3.1 IP 0.00 ERA and in the primary closer role. Ether one would be fine. Norwood it path of least resist and you really don't have this huge variance between the 2.
But as far as the SP goes:"

Robinson 2.53 ERA 10.2 IP
Underwood 10.8 ERA 3.1 IP
Swarmer: 5.40 ERA 5 IP
Rea 5.79 ERA 4.2 IP
Clifton: 0.00 ERA 3 IP

Robinson has become the staff ace. Clifton was under a 50 pitch limit but looked strong. Rest are back of the rotation arms at AAA much less MLB

 

[CSF77]

You won't hear an argument from me that he didn't need to be sent down.

I figured it was bound to happen after I heard about MLB calling his pause illegal. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong with it. I think it was with him raising then planting then lifting again and throwing. I think you can pause but can't plant the front foot more than once.

 

[CSF77]

really good breakdown of Jansen's pitching.

 

[anotheridiot]

I figured it was bound to happen after I heard about MLB calling his pause illegal. I'm not sure what he was doing wrong with it. I think it was with him raising then planting then lifting again and throwing. I think you can pause but can't plant the front foot more than once.

again, why make a big deal with this if you cannot do it when runners are on base anyway. If this is what disrupted that empty space between CJ's ears, then he must have been at the breaking point. He has never strung together enough good appearances without at least a few bad games in his career. You could see he always carried himself as someone who reacts like a 15 year veteran when he walks batters or gives up hits and gets pulled from games. One can argue this has always been too big for him. The cubs themselves are saying he needs to work on his mental game, so this is not reading into anything.

 

[CSF77]

again, why make a big deal with this if you cannot do it when runners are on base anyway. If this is what disrupted that empty space between CJ's ears, then he must have been at the breaking point. He has never strung together enough good appearances without at least a few bad games in his career. You could see he always carried himself as someone who reacts like a 15 year veteran when he walks batters or gives up hits and gets pulled from games. One can argue this has always been too big for him. The cubs themselves are saying he needs to work on his mental game, so this is not reading into anything.

You really can't have an opinion until you have walked in those shoes.

 

[CSF77]

Edwards strong point was his high spin rate on his fastball. His short coming was his control. So he made a major adjustment and it was called illegal. He would pick up his leg then set it down. Then come forward to the plate. He said he copied it from Janson. From that video that is not what Janson was doing.

So I can take this as CJ was doing this delivery for 30 days and no one pointed it out to him that it might be illegal until the season started. Inexperienced PC to blame here. Strange that the vets didn't take him aside either.

So when you commit and train in a way and the rug is pulled it is going to go bad. He is still not established and something like this can become devistating.

 

[anotheridiot]

Edwards strong point was his high spin rate on his fastball. His short coming was his control. So he made a major adjustment and it was called illegal. He would pick up his leg then set it down. Then come forward to the plate. He said he copied it from Janson. From that video that is not what Janson was doing.

So I can take this as CJ was doing this delivery for 30 days and no one pointed it out to him that it might be illegal until the season started. Inexperienced PC to blame here. Strange that the vets didn't take him aside either.

So when you commit and train in a way and the rug is pulled it is going to go bad. He is still not established and something like this can become devistating.

But his problems continued with runners on base when he uses the exact same delivery he has been using. He only does the drop and wait with nobody on base. You do that with men on base and the walk is a triple. He was committing to never having runners on base, and that was his first mistake. He is in the position to come into the game when runners ARE on base.

All of it points to some kid too big for his britches, (of course, not Edwards case since he is a skeleton) thinking nobody is ever going to reach base on me, or someone living in la la land.

Lets not forget, the guy with the most movement and best spin rate is Chatwood, and we would all take the hit to DFA him. The cubs are currently in trouble with the guys that were promoted too soon. Happ and Edwards. Those are two roster spots thought to be locks and something that handcuffed Theo over the winter. When 2 of your 13 or 14 pitchers only have options, its got to be considered handcuffed. I highly expect Chatwood to get the start against the angels this weekend and shit the bed. Theres another guy with a herky jerk windup that cant get repeated. In edwards case, he is more concerned with repeating his change than where the ball is going, and he got hammered for it. Some guys never find what got them to the show again.

 

[chibears55]

Edwards strong point was his high spin rate on his fastball. His short coming was his control. So he made a major adjustment and it was called illegal. He would pick up his leg then set it down. Then come forward to the plate. He said he copied it from Janson. From that video that is not what Janson was doing.

So I can take this as CJ was doing this delivery for 30 days and no one pointed it out to him that it might be illegal until the season started. Inexperienced PC to blame here. Strange that the vets didn't take him aside either.

So when you commit and train in a way and the rug is pulled it is going to go bad. He is still not established and something like this can become devistating.

]I blame the Cubs management and coaches for allowing him to do it all ST..
You can see how uncomfortable and awkward he looked and the struggle he had with it..
They should of ended it right away and had him just working on throwing his pitches ..
Period

 

[anotheridiot]

I apologize if this is my fault for tainting this season opener series and not in the cj to iowa thread.

 

[CSF77]

I apologize if this is my fault for tainting this season opener series and not in the cj to iowa thread.

It is cool. This should be in the CJ. Thread. I get it but you have to remember that he is still a kid. He has had some success but I would never feel comfortable with him in with the game on the line.

The way I look at it he has talent. He lacks poise.

Then I look at Mekkes. He lacks that high octane fastball but has poise. And guess what it makes him good at what he does.

It really comes down to being the best you. It really goes beyond numbers or stuff. It comes from knowing your strengths and lackings.

He needs some growth as a pitcher and yes part of it is finding a pitching mechanic that works for him and owning it vs copping some one else.

 

[zack54attack]

So... they probably aren't going to play tonight?

 

[CSF77]

If Yu can pull his head out of his ass today we will be in good shape.

 

[CSF77]

So... they probably aren't going to play tonight?

Weather report shows a lessening at 8 and picking up late night. Really depends on the field condition.

 

[SilenceS]

 

[SilenceS]

So... they probably aren't going to play tonight?

I read it will be super cold but dry

 

[anotheridiot]

It is cool. This should be in the CJ. Thread. I get it but you have to remember that he is still a kid. He has had some success but I would never feel comfortable with him in with the game on the line.

The way I look at it he has talent. He lacks poise.

Then I look at Mekkes. He lacks that high octane fastball but has poise. And guess what it makes him good at what he does.

It really comes down to being the best you. It really goes beyond numbers or stuff. It comes from knowing your strengths and lackings.

He needs some growth as a pitcher and yes part of it is finding a pitching mechanic that works for him and owning it vs copping some one else.

it was a rhetorical question, you did it at post 57.

 

[CSF77]

The Cubs will promote lefty Tim Collins to take the roster spot of injured starter Jon Lester, according to Jesse Rogers of ESPNChicago.com (via Twitter). Collins inked a MLB deal late this spring after being cut loose by the Twins and was optioned to open the season. He’ll try to help settle a relief unit that has sputtered out of the gates. Collins didn’t exactly excel last year with the Nats, but did make it his way back to full health and back up to the majors after several lost seasons. He has racked up an impressive number of strikeouts in 2019, with 13 in 9 1/3 spring innings and three more in 2 2/3 at Triple-A

 

[knoxville7]

Love descalso leading off. He’s had some great AB’s so far

 

[SilenceS]

Love descalso leading off. He’s had some great AB’s so far

He was considered a very good signing by experts. Pretty much everyone I read put him in the sneaky good signings.

 

[anotheridiot]

well, there seems to be some weather related problems with YU, I saw some report he is being sued by his chicago neighbors, that has since been removed, and if they try to get this in tonight and Yu keeps trying to strike everyone out, its going to be a long night. Maybe they can get a couple innings in and finish the game tomorrow.