Jalen Carter has 6 career sacks..

[BaBaBlacksheep]

You’re the one who seems to think it was a big deal.

 

[rawdawg]

When you pick early, you must draft impact players. These guys become the cornerstone of your franchise. And rushing the passer is key to success in the NFL.

I am not saying Carter isn't capable of become a very good pass rusher. He just hasn't shown that in college yet.

How high do you draft a disruptive DT that doesn't get to the QB consistently?

As a sophomore for the Bulldogs in 2021 Carter played in 15 games and took part on 396 snaps for the Bulldogs. He recorded 25 tackles, 7 assists, while adding 21 stops. As a pass rusher he chalked up 34 total pressures, and 24 QB hurries, 6 QB hits, and 4 sacks during the year.

According to Pro Football Focus, rising junior Jalen Carter had the third-highest pass rush win rate (18.9 percent) last season of any Georgia defensive linemen since the outlet began recording data (Leonard Floyd was #1, FWIW).

Carter put up a 90.0 pass-rush grade last season, second among all Power Five interior defenders.

Those are all stats I found w/ a quick google search. I can't find his 2022 numbers (other than counting stats), but that's 26.4 plays per game last year. That's a lot of pressures considering a conservative estimate of 1/2 of those plays being running plays.

It's tough to put up big numbers on a 3-man line. You just have to trust the non-countable stats with Carter. Everything about those numbers shows top 5 much more than 3.0 sacks in each of the last 2 years does.

 

[remydat]

I mean posters are doing that now with Anderson lack of fumbles lol. It is what it is when someone has THEIR GUY it’s over from a discussion stand point. Just look at remy and claypool lol lol

Yeah or when someone convinces themselves a GM should have done more despite evidence to the contrary.

 

[mattb78]

I live in GA and watch most of Bulldogs games. IMHO, drafting Carter would be a must, He is as consistent as they come.

Good to know and good point on the injuries. I remember he was dinged up for UF v. UGA and he didn't do much. If he could be very disruptive and be a 6-8 sack per year player I would be pretty happy with that.

If the Bears pick at 3 or 4 and don't get a quality trade offer its good to know that Carter is a solid selection.

 

[Bearly]

As for Carter, no one is Donald. Only Reggie White, Deacon Jones and Bruce Smith are on his level historically. That said, I do think he could be a huge impact player for the Bears. He might not register a ton of sacks, but he won't be invisible out there.

Wouldn't matter who gets the sacks as long as he's helping cause them.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

When you pick early, you must draft impact players. These guys become the cornerstone of your franchise. And rushing the passer is key to success in the NFL.

I am not saying Carter isn't capable of become a very good pass rusher. He just hasn't shown that in college yet.

How high do you draft a disruptive DT that doesn't get to the QB consistently?

Could you explain how Carter is used in the Georgia defense?

 

[Enasic]

According to Pro Football Focus, rising junior Jalen Carter had the third-highest pass rush win rate (18.9 percent) last season of any Georgia defensive linemen since the outlet began recording data (Leonard Floyd was #1, FWIW).

Confirmed Floyd is the better pass rusher than Carter

 

[bamainatlanta]

Could you explain how Carter is used in the Georgia defense?

The bench him 1 game for every game that he doesn’t get a sack

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

The bench him 1 game for every game that he doesn’t get a sack

Nope. No jokes allowed. I’m asking a direct question to @mattb78

How is Georgia utilizing Carter and how it relates to his stats. @mattb78 wants to talk about it, so he should be able to answer it.

So, @mattb78, how does Kirby Smart’s defense utilize Carter and is it a negative that his sack numbers are low?

 

[bearsfan1977]

UGA’s front is deployed in a variety of ways.

1-they often have an insane amount of talent, so production gets spread around
2-Floyd was a Swiss army knife who can be used all over the field due to his athleticism; he was never a true sack artist, and most people who watched him knew (or should have) known that before the draft
3-Carter has generational traits and pops out on tape consistently; they can obviously be wrong, but there is a reason scouts and people who study tape think he is a top-5 talent
4-don’t overthink it; he would be the perfect fit to fix the DL (along with Payne).

 

[Enasic]

Nope. No jokes allowed. I’m asking a direct question to @mattb78

How is Georgia utilizing Carter and how it relates to his stats. @mattb78 wants to talk about it, so he should be able to answer it.

So, @mattb78, how does Kirby Smart’s defense utilize Carter and is it a negative that his sack numbers are low?

Someone actually posted an extremely detailed breakdown of their defense and carters role. I know what you’re getting it and pointing to the scheme on why his sack totals are low, and I think there’s some validity there. It’d also somewhat of a cop out too, IMO.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

UGA’s front is deployed in a variety of ways.

1-they often have an insane amount of talent, so production gets spread around
2-Floyd was a Swiss army knife who can be used all over the field due to his athleticism; he was never a true sack artist, and most people who watched him knew (or should have) known that before the draft
3-Carter has generational traits and pops out on tape consistently; they can obviously be wrong, but there is a reason scouts and people who study tape think he is a top-5 talent
4-don’t overthink it; he would be the perfect fit to fix the DL (along with Payne).

What the **** are you doing?

Pissboy @mattb78 needs to answer.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Someone actually posted an extremely detailed breakdown of their defense and carters role. I know what you’re getting it and pointing to the scheme on why his sack totals are low, and I think there’s some validity there. It’d also somewhat of a cop out too, IMO.

I’m asking the guy who started the thread to answer. If you make the claim, you should answer it. @mattb78 definitely financed his water bed.

 

[mattb78]

I’m asking the guy who started the thread to answer. If you make the claim, you should answer it. @mattb78 definitely financed his water bed.

I made no such claim and it would be nice if you could read.

My original post said he has 6 career sacks and asked a question if he warranted a top 5 pick. It was a question not a statement.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I made no such claim and it would be nice if you could read.

My original post said he has 6 career sacks and asked a question if he warranted a top 5 pick. It was a question not a statement.

Sure would be nice if you could actually back up anything. Maybe then the rest of us would be spared such a stupid thread. Tell us about Georgia's defense and how Carter was used. You tell us. Don't rely on others.

 

[Novoitus]

The kid has no talent.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

He's not just a space eater. While Georgia predominantly runs a 3-4, they also run some even front packages which allow Carter to line up at the 3-tech and get up field. He's versatile in that way where he can also two gap. But his ideal position is the 3. Had he played in an exclusive even front scheme, his "numbers" would reflect that. When he's asked to get up field and penetrate he's a disruptive force.


Quinnen Williams was deployed in a similar fashion in college at Bama. Didn't have a ton of sack production.

The Jets prominently run a 4-2-5 allowing Williams to get off the ball and eat.

Quinnen Williams college production blows Carter's out of the water.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I made no such claim and it would be nice if you could read.

My original post said he has 6 career sacks and asked a question if he warranted a top 5 pick. It was a question not a statement.

A valid question. Someone who doesn’t watch a lot of UGA ball would ask it.

I’m trying to be objective and not a homer. I am totally fine trading Quan and allocating 20m to someone like Payne.

I knew what the Bears were getting in Floyd and thought he was over-drafted, but acknowledged for that particular draft it wasn’t a bad pick given the players available.

I think Anderson is a natural fit as an OLB in a 3-4 but would be happy if the Bears got him.

I think Carter is that once in a 5 year dude you run to the podium for if he is available. I could be wrong on both counts.

 

[playthrough2001]

Do you think the scouts and teams that have him as a top 5 pick have watched film?

No Remy, the best scouts swear by 3-5 minute highlight reels on You Tube. Why watch all that other superfluous stuff?

 

[Pretzel Logic]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603212432020627458

Couple of things, so the slander begins on various prospects names and also I know some/many don't rate what Kollman has to say.

I find him and E.J Snyder really interesting - imo of course.