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yeah, and why was he driving his car from the passenger seat?
Isn't that dangerous?
Isn't that dangerous?
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Do you ever take a step back and realize you are on a bears message board debating Michigan gun law? Are you seriously this obsessed?
Just go and attempt having some semblance of a life off the internet.
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Is he, at this point, facing charges.....yes or no?
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He’s taking a break from blowing out his fish’s butthole
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More fun stuff from PFT…
“Williams will be facing both prosecution by authorities and a potential suspension by the league.
Last year, Williams was suspended for violating the league’s gambling policy.”
Lions WR Jameson Williams faces concealed weapon charge
Detroit police are investigating why Williams wasn't formally arrested on October 8.www.nbcsports.com
Oh uh, this says he faces charges. Another @nc0gnet0 meltdown incoming.
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Is he, at this point, facing charges.....yes or no?
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Per WXYZ-TV and now PFT, yes he is. If you feel they are using the term wrong go write to them but I quoted what the article said.
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Triple crown winner with the warrant request
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Regardless, as per the definition, he has not yet been charged.
Will he be? I don't think so, not if the facts as I understand them are accurate.
Facts
1) both guns were legally registered.
2) the cars driver was Jameson's brother, who has a concealed weapons permit. (to be honest, I am not even sure if who own the car matters, it could also be a rental)
3) both were co-operative and when asked immediately told the officers when asked that there indeed were guns in the car.
4) At the heart of the matter is the fact there are two laws that in a way contradict each other. It is also the reason for the confusion (in my estimation) at the police headquarters. Probably also the reason they bumped it up to the prosecutors office to clarify.
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Report: Warrant request made for Lions' Williams
The Wayne County Prosecutor's office is reviewing a warrant request for the arrest of Lions wide receiver Jameson Williams on a concealed weapon charge, WXYZ-TV in Detroit reported.
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Why was he breaking the law?
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Lonely troll meltdowns are hilarious. Imagine spending this amount of time and energy hopelessly defending a guy facing his third suspension, and possible arrest. lol
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Maybe he had the guns because he had to protect himself from a bookie that he refuses to pay and a drug dealer that he stole from???
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nope
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suspended for what?
He didn't break the law.
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It isn't regardless. You were being a royal douche acting like I lied or made something up when all I did was quote the article and you further exacerbated yoour douchebaggery by then claiming the article never said he was facing charges when it clearly did.
Further the story here is how Jameson was about to be arrested and taken to jail when a police sargeant intervened in large part because he was a Lions fan. There is no scenario otherwise where a cop would spend 30 minutes making calls trying to avoid arresting someone. He would naturally just take the guy down to the station and sort it out there.
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I heard he’s facing the death penalty.
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The sergeant on the scene did not make the call to have him released. It was only after he made several calls to HQ that decision was made.
Over the next 30 minutes, the sergeant would make a series of phone calls to higher-ranking officials, trying to determine if Williams needed to be arrested or if the driver’s CPL covered both his and Wiliams’ gun.
But minutes later, everything seemingly changed. The sergeant spoke to a lieutenant who said Williams should be released from custody. The lieutenant’s side of the conversation cannot be heard.
And yes, while your article does clearly state he was facing charges (he is not, as of yet) it also contradicted itself in it's opening statement when it said Wayne County prosecutors where investigating if charges should be filed. So, on that front I will apologize.
the fact still remains, he is not at this time facing charges.
Now, what has been reported so far is the following.
Jameson's brother was pulled over for speeding, when asked, they told the officers immediately that yes, there were two guns in the car. One gun, in the back seat, was registered to the brother, who had a concealed weapons permit.
The second gun was also registered, but to Jameson himself. Jameson does not have a concealed weapons permit.
Now, I base my opinions on the above reports being true, should the facts change, all bets are off. But if the above is true, no crime was committed, and I highly doubt any charges will be filed. The moment the Detroit Police force got accused of giving preferential treatment to a Lions player, that is when they got defensive and submitted the request to Wayne county, to let them sort it all out.
Now, if your interested in the pure legality and confusion on the matter, here are the two Michigan gun laws that seem to contradict each other:
the Michigan law regarding concealed weapons:
Now, if Jameson had been alone in the car, he clearly was in violation of this law.
However, he was not alone, and his brother in fact did have a concealed weapons permit.
MCL 28.432 An individual can carry, possess, use or transport a pistol belonging to another individual, if the pistol is properly licensed under the Act, and the individual carrying, possessing, using or transporting the pistol has obtained a license to carry a pistol concealed permit from Michigan.
This supersedes the first law, or adds additional clarity to it, Based on the current facts as we know them, and any good lawyer would have this thrown out, regardless of if charges are filed or not. At the heart of the confusion was the police were not sure if in fact that the brothers concealed weapons permit also covered jamesons pistol. This is why so many calls were made, not because some Sergeant was trying to get Jameson released, as you imply.
Jameson was about to be arrested and taken to jail went a police sargeant intervened in large part because he was a Lions fan.
This statement is pure speculative bullshit on your part. It is routine for the Detroit Police Department to send a high ranking official to the scene when ever dealing with a public figure.
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I said he spent 30 minutes making calls ie making phone calls. You then quote an article that 100% confirms what I said. Jesus Christ. Learn to read.
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Again learn to read. The article I sent says the following.
While the gun under Williams’ seat was registered to him, he did not possess a CPL.
The officer concluded that was a problem, and told Williams he was going to be taken into custody for carrying a concealed weapon.
Williams was handcuffed and placed in the back of the squad car. In an interview on Monday, Detroit Police Commander Michael McGinnis supported the officer’s actions.
“I feel that there was probable cause to arrest, and he was under arrest by the patrol officer,” McGinnis said. “And because of that, he should have been conveyed to the Detroit Detention Center and processed."
So my statement is 100% factual and not speculation. The fucking police commander says he should have been taken to jail and processed.
So the facts are he was going to be taken to jail until the sergeant intervened. I know his intervenation is not unsual because I read the whole article unlike you and the article says that it isnt unusual in high profile cases.
The issue still remains though that the sergeant was clearly a Lions fan and clearly made comments that suggested that was his overriding interest here.
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