Jayden Daniels “week to week,” may miss Bears game

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He probably still had adrenaline flowing immediately after then he realized how bad it hurt after a few minutes and notified others.

Quinn said he went hard in practice when in fact he didn't even practice in the portion open to media so nobody knows what he actually did. I don't really buy it as anything more than gamesmanship.

Dr. Chao actually said cartilage injury is more painful than a fracture and that players and doctors don't like doing injections anymore after tyrod got his lung punctured
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I know it's very painful but that part is up to Jayden. They've done a great job of keeping us guessing. JD could be anywhere from starter to a scratch.
 

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I tore my rib cartilage when I was in middle school playing soccer. It's a very sharp pain, but one you can play through. I just had to wear a rib belt for like a year because even just playing soccer it was thing where you could/would keep re-injuring it.

Now, I realize the NFL is going to very different with the physicality, but that bit about easy to re-injure is going to be very real. So, unless they are going to be willing to sit Daniels for many weeks to let that fully heal, Daniels will eventually be playing through the injury and putting himself at risk of re-injury for basically the rest of the season.

It's going to be a matter of pain management. I think the other big factor will be whether or not his throwing motion itself could cause the re-injury. If I remember right, he seemed to favor his left side, so he may be able to avoid that. But they may have to sit him long enough that the pain from the ribs doesn't change his throwing motion too much. And then obviously, he is going to need to learn, quickly, to protect himself from big hits which he needed to do anyway.
 
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I may or may not feel bad if he gets hurt even more. It’s their own risky and dumb decision.
 
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Canth said:
I tore my rib cartilage when I was in middle school playing soccer. It's a very sharp pain, but one you can play through. I just had to wear a rib belt for like a year because even just playing soccer it was thing where you could/would keep re-injuring it.

Now, I realize the NFL is going to very different with the physicality, but that bit about easy to re-injure is going to be very real. So, unless they are going to be willing to sit Daniels for many weeks to let that fully heal, Daniels will eventually be playing through the injury and putting himself at risk of re-injury for basically the rest of the season.

It's going to be a matter of pain management. I think the other big factor will be whether or not his throwing motion itself could cause the re-injury. If I remember right, he seemed to favor his left side, so he may be able to avoid that. But they may have to sit him long enough that the pain from the ribs doesn't change his throwing motion too much. And then obviously, he is going to need to learn, quickly, to protect himself from big hits which he needed to do anyway.
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Playing QB in the NFL when you’re a multimillion dollar asset is a pretty different scenario than playing middle school soccer.

It would be foolish to run him out there unless he’s close to 100 percent.
 
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I highly doubt it. The line hasn’t moved a bit off the Bears -3.
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The line has zero effect on him playing or not and if he is playing injured, the line wouldn’t move. You can make an argument that him not being at 100% is actually a detriment to the team if he can’t play the position how he wants.
 

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Playing QB in the NFL when you’re a multimillion dollar asset is a pretty different scenario than playing middle school soccer.

It would be foolish to run him out there unless he’s close to 100 percent.
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I get that. The point I was attempting to make was around the issue of re-injury of the rib cartilage. I fully expect him to re-injure that cartilage in every game he plays unless they decide to sit him for many weeks to let it fully heal. My personal experience was that once the cartilage tears, it doesn't take much to keep it from healing. I don't remember it being as bad as the initial injury, but it is pain to deal with.

So, along those lines, it will be interesting to see if or how long they actually sit him because I don't see them being willing to sit him for the 6-8 weeks it can take to get 'close to 100 percent' on that type of injury. It really is going to be pain management and imo, if they trust him to protect himself better. I think that's probably the bigger concern is whether or not they trust Daniels to protect himself better and avoid unnecessary hits going forward as much as possible.

At least with rib cartilage, as opposed to a broken rib, there really should not be a threat of piercing a lung on a subsequent hit. But even then, there are plenty of stories of QB's playing with fractured ribs. Drew Brees is the one that springs to mind the most. He was the Saints franchise when he played there and he played with something like 10 or 11 fractured ribs -and- a pierced lung at one point before they finally put him on IR.

Just a couple of years ago, Justin Herbert played with torn rib cartilage. Carr said he played with 3 broken ribs. I think Baker Mayfield has played with a rib injury. Kirk Cousins has as well. Go ahead and google NFL QB rib injury or something to that effect. There are tons of stories of guys playing with rib injuries.

So, it's not unheard of by any means for a QB to play through a rib injury. Again, it comes down to pain management and whether or not the coaching staff trusts the QB to protect himself. And that is definitely something that Daniels has got to improve on, just in general, to have a long and successful NFL career.
 
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bamainatlanta said:
The line has zero effect on him playing or not and if he is playing injured, the line wouldn’t move. You can make an argument that him not being at 100% is actually a detriment to the team if he can’t play the position how he wants.
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You’ve determined he’s playing. I doubt it. If word comes out today he’s playing, the line will absolutely move and the Bears will not be giving 3.
 

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When you're trying to evaluate the likelihood of something happening, in this case if JD is likely to play, the movement of the betting lines is absolutely a very useful barometer.

When the line is going up as JD misses practices, and there's no movement after the news of the last 24 hours, the interpretation is and should be that JD is unlikely to play.

That doesn't mean he's not going to play, but that the available info has people that are putting their money on the line believing that he won't play. That includes people who have more info than we do, and that have the ability to move lines with very large bets.

I would gladly wager that he isn't going to play based solely on the movement on the lines.
 
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