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If by shithouse you mean far superior then yes it's a shithouse argument.
And again bahahahahhhaha for bringing up the playoffs.
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I guess the 7 in 2004 was pre-Nomar trade, they probably took a hit after trading Dontrelle to the Marlins in 2002 or 2003 (forgot which) and then trading a bunch of guys to get Derrek Lee prior to 2004. I recall the subsequent drafts weren't that good as the team shifted into "contend now" mode because the Tribune was getting ready to sell. Maybe someone with more knowledge could pipe in. My perception of Hendry had been that he was a good evaluator of amateur talent and raw talent but not so good at finding what makes a complete and productive MLB player.
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Even without wood and prior they had a better Zambrano. A better clement. Greg maddux and Glendon rusch pitched great as a starter.
And on top of that the offense was light years better. 2004 was way better than people give it credit for. It just ran into a great cardinals team and a very good Astros team.
If the 2003 team had a decent team in their division we aren't even having this conversation.
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Why shouldn't he bring up the playoffs? 2004 didn't even make the playoffs. 2003 got further than any other team in any of our lifetimes.
That stuff does matter. You need to first get a team to the playoffs, and that part is important. You give the guy props for keeping the team over .500 overall. But you need to get to the playoffs to have a shot at the World Series. I have also talked about hot and cold streaks and small samples etc., but you can't deny what actually happened. 2003 was the most successful team in the past decade based solely on how far they got in the playoffs. That trumps everything.
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Yes because when evaluating the "overall performance" of a team the playoffs have no relevance.
2001 Seattle Mariners. Best performance for a MLB team in modern history.
The Cubs lost only really Choi in the Lee trade.
The Nomar trade the Cubs gave up virtually nothing. Montreal acquired Cubs shortstop Alex Gonzalez, pitcher Francis Beltran and infielder Brendan Harris
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Extremely off topic, but I kinda wonder who the last Expo will be.
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Too bad poods showed up. I was liking the actual baseball discussion that was going on.
In poods mind baseball team evaluation should center around ERA+ and OPS+ and not factor in the playoffs in any way shape or form. Talk about ruining baseball talk on a board.
In poods mind baseball team evaluation should center around ERA+ and OPS+ and not factor in the playoffs in any way shape or form. Talk about ruining baseball talk on a board.
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Sure it's important but it doesn't make one team better than the other. The 2008 Yankees won 89 games and missed the playoffs. The dodgers won 84 and made the playoffs. The Yankees were by far superior.
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Seeing the forest through the trees is difficult i know.
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Actually that's not true.
The Yankees had the superior lineup(101-93)OPS+.
Dodgers pitching was better(114-104)ERA+
Your own stat(s) prove you wrong!
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Your posts are fucking adorable.
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It's odd.
It's like everything poods says is disproven in virtually 5 seconds using his own "logic"
It's like everything poods says is disproven in virtually 5 seconds using his own "logic"
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Thus why I should look everything up before posting. The point still stands while the example may be wrong.
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Bahahahahahahahaha you disproved one thing. The rest were typical garbage posts showing nothing but your ignorance of baseball.
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You don't really have to look up "everything". Just what you are talking about.
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Actually they weren't.
You gonna bring Capt Obvious back too? We need more jobber tag teams around the site for me to beat up on.
Poods and CO = The Job Squad.
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Actually they weren't.
You gonna bring Capt Obvious back too? We need more jobber tag teams around the site for me to beat up on.
Poods and CO = The Job Squad.
Nah I don't need anyone else to fight my battles. Unlike you and rory who have to fight together. Which is fine because combined your grasp of baseball is stuck in the 1940's.
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