Joe Maddon Coming to Cubs?

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Im pretty sure I posted an article saying that the Cubs have kept in contact with Renteria and told him they were interest on both sides. Im also pretty sure they are going to offer him a different position or he can sit out and take his money. I feel like you havent done business in your life Brett. Im not even being a dick. Its either you bury your head in the sand or just want reactions. One of the two.
 

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Current Cubs manager Rick Renteria has been told the team is exploring the possibility of hiring Maddon, who became a free agent after recently opting out of his Rays deal.

Cubs president Theo Epstein and GM Jed Hoyer have not responded to media inquiries since Maddon became a free agent, seeming to indicate something was afoot. Renteria issued a statement in response to the speculation, saying he intended to continue to do his job but stopped short of saying he was aware of the Maddon interest.

Renteria said in the statement two days ago that he intended to "continue to focus my offseason prepartion on achieving the goal we established from the start: bringing a championship to Chicago."

Some reports sugggested Renteria hadn't been apprised of the situation, but a league source said Renteria -- who has two years to go on his Cubs contract -- is definitely aware of the Cubs' interest in Maddon.
 

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Now you're just being silly. I already gave you an example of a coach in his 1st year with that team exceeding expectations and still being fired. Marty Schotenheimer

Which was explained that he got canned for not doing his job...aka like Doug Collins he was usurping authority from the GM. BUt you and Parade keep ignoring it.
 

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Sure they tampered. The difficulty would be proving it.

We agree on the part that it would be difficult to prove.

And Renteria probably can't say that he knew about it because if he did then there could be links to that tampering.
He can say whatever he wants. He can say that he was fired. No crime in that.

In baseball doing your job doesn't guarantee you will keep your job. Just ask Wally Pipp. Guy put up all star numbers but was replaced by Lou Gehrig.

I believed this as well. The true story is the Yankees were slumping including Pipp. Gerhig was being contemplated as a replacement for quite some time. Pipp and others were told to sit down and take some time off while the team tried to right the ship. Pipp gets hit on the head and fractures his skull and gets traded at years end.

But let's stick to managers since that is what we are talking about.


Renteria was a perfectly serviceable manager. But he isn't Joe Madden and if you get a chance at a guy with a track record like Madden then you jump at it.

And there are ways to do that with class and respect within the rules of the game. Why can so few of you admit that?
 

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Which was explained that he got canned for not doing his job...aka like Doug Collins he was usurping authority from the GM. BUt you and Parade keep ignoring it.

You'll always find a reason to continue arguing your worthless point of view.
 

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No, not "many". You read one report that was syndicated multiple times and picked up by multiple outlets. That's still one report, cupcake.

And since Maddon opted out of his contract last Friday, it would have to be proven that the Cubs were in contact with him prior to that in order to qualify as tampering. There's zero evidence of that.

Glad you traced every single report to the source. You really are a piece of work. And there apparently is evidence of tampering which is why the consideration is being taken to file.





That is not a case of someone doing their job. It is a case of bad professionalism. Terry was always awful. But hey, you keep taking shots all you want.
 

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Im pretty sure I posted an article saying that the Cubs have kept in contact with Renteria and told him they were interest on both sides. Im also pretty sure they are going to offer him a different position or he can sit out and take his money. I feel like you havent done business in your life Brett. Im not even being a dick. Its either you bury your head in the sand or just want reactions. One of the two.

Not only done business, I own a business but thanks. There's called class and not class. Why you can;t admit that this is not on the up and up is something only you and others that feel like you can answer. But keep it up "Pot."
 

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Some reports sugggested Renteria hadn't been apprised of the situation, but a league source said Renteria -- who has two years to go on his Cubs contract -- is definitely aware of the Cubs' interest in Maddon.

Who isn't aware of the situation? Talk about spinning. :lol:
 

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You'll always find a reason to continue arguing your worthless point of view.

The point was that no one has lost their job for doing as asked. Two examples were shown and both were shown to be invalid. Your counters are what is meaningless. Now if you could provide something that shows this happening.... I won't hold my breath. Tell me more how Lester is awful.
 

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Glad you traced every single report to the source. You really are a piece of work. And there apparently is evidence of tampering which is why the consideration is being taken to file.

And I'm sure that the "evidence" of tampering has nothing to do with the fact that the Rays are butthurt that their manager left over a clause that even they didn't realize was in his contract. Face it, you have zero evidence to support your assertion and neither do the Rays, unless they're tapping Maddon's phone and email. You want to go that far, tinfoil?






That is not a case of someone doing their job. It is a case of bad professionalism. Terry was always awful. But hey, you keep taking shots all you want.

[h=1]rationalize[/h]

[rash-uh-nl-ahyz, rash-nl-ahyz]

verb (used with object), rationalized, rationalizing.
verb (used without object), rationalized, rationalizing.
to invent plausible explanations for acts, opinions, etc., that are actually based on other causes:
"He tried to prove that he was not at fault, but he was obviously rationalizing."
 

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I love the way you just dismissed an article by Jon Heyman as just spin, but declare your opinion as if it was fact when evidence shoes otherwise. Its absolutely fucking hilarious.

:fuckthis:
 

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And I'm sure that the "evidence" of tampering has nothing to do with the fact that the Rays are butthurt that their manager left over a clause that even they didn't realize was in his contract. Face it, you have zero evidence to support your assertion and neither do the Rays, unless they're tapping Maddon's phone and email. You want to go that far, tinfoil?





[h=1]rationalize[/h]

[rash-uh-nl-ahyz, rash-nl-ahyz]

verb (used with object), rationalized, rationalizing.
verb (used without object), rationalized, rationalizing.
to invent plausible explanations for acts, opinions, etc., that are actually based on other causes:
"He tried to prove that he was not at fault, but he was obviously rationalizing."

Fact: noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts

a thing that is indisputably the case.

Like I said, what happend to Terry was wrong. But he was not seen as doing his job. Evidence that backs that assertion is he never managed again.
 

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I love the way you just dismissed an article by Jon Heyman as just spin, but declare your opinion as if it was fact when evidence shoes otherwise. Its absolutely fucking hilarious.

I did no such thing. If anything I actually posted the article..something you did not do. I even said if true it was better than not talking to Rick which is what I am saying all along has happened. Can you keep up?
 

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The point was that no one has lost their job for doing as asked. Two examples were shown and both were shown to be invalid. Your counters are what is meaningless. Now if you could provide something that shows this happening.... I won't hold my breath. Tell me more how Lester is awful.

Hue Jackson, 2008 Oakland Raiders. He guided them to an 8-8 record, which was so far above expectations it's not even funny. Can't wait to hear your excuse why this isn't a valid example.
 

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