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The only question mark I have over the article, although I am all for giving the chicken Chaser one more go, is that Fox mentions he has been moved around too often, then goes on say he wants to try him at ILB after indicating that, this has been his problem since being drafted by the Bears!
OLB or bust. The Goth in me says, necro him one more time.
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Well, it's been a week and I am still unsure as to who is the dumbest poster here, the slow witted Mongo or that incontinent chimpanzee Hawk.
I also love how these dense meatballs never mention any players age when talking about old ass players in decline with huge physical issues being let go.
Ya, bc we don't know Peanut is old as fark with a tricep that keeps tearing.
I also love how these dense meatballs never mention any players age when talking about old ass players in decline with huge physical issues being let go.
Ya, bc we don't know Peanut is old as fark with a tricep that keeps tearing.
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"Bright Future" as in, he's in trade talks with Tampa??! It is bright there and they're a tweener away from winning the division 
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That didn't make sense either. You admit you think the guy should have been an OLB but don't want to start him there? :dunno:
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Agreed
2 of 12 years...perennial...uhhhhh, no. Healthy for 10 of 32 games the past 2 years , yes.
And whether his languishing is due to lack of talent or due to poor utilization/coaching is a debatable, at 6'3" 263 Shea has prototypical LB size. Urlacher at 6'4" 258 did just fine.
The dude has done everything the team has asked, added bad weight to play a position he should have never been drafted for, lost weight and played SAM, another position he had never played, and now finally getting to play somewhat the position he has his best chance for success. I root for the guy.
Hating on him because he has been fucked around by the previous staff that overdrafted him to play a position he never had a chance to excel in lacks sound critical thought.
In case you missed this from last year, I don't think Shea's physique has anything to do with his lack of production
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There is less of a transition from his SLB role last year to ILB. He doesn't have to alter his weight in this role, if you were moving him to OLB back to a pass rushing role, he would have to put back on 15bs he dropped last year. So it is less of a physical transition while either is still a mental shift with a new system.
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I agree. The only thing I can figure is that with McPhee at one OLB and Young, Allen, Houston, C Jones, et al vying for the other OLB, there is more room at ILB and his skill set, with what they have, would allow for the best chance of him getting on the field.
I would call him serviceable last year in a shitty defense, if he can move up to Hunter Hillenmeyer/Nick Roach type average, in the new one, that would be nice.
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For OLB, McClellin's size is comparable to the size of the best in the NFL, there is no need for 15 pounds. Whether he can succeed, IMO has more to do with his instincts. Having him be a hand in the dirt, engage and beat a 320lb+ OT was ill fated from the start. AT 3-4 OLB, and maybe to a lesser extent 3-4 ILB, he can play more naturally. Seeing if he can play with speed once his mind is freed up will tell the tale.
McClellin 6'3" 260
Justin Houston 6'3" 260
Robert Mathis 6'2" 246
Aldon Smith 6'4" 265
Brian Orakpo 6'4" 257
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I have a question for those that so despise Shea Mac. Had Brian Urlacher, as the #9 overall pick, with almost identical measurables and combine times been asked to be a hand in the dirt DE, how do you think he would have fared?
He is a much stronger leader and stronger willed player than SM, but I don't think he would have been even average as a DE. I don't imagine SM will ever sniff a pro bowl, but it seems that those that "hate" him, completely disregard how completely misused he has been. It would be like hating on Patrick Kane for his lack of physical play if he were asked to switch to defenseman.
He is a much stronger leader and stronger willed player than SM, but I don't think he would have been even average as a DE. I don't imagine SM will ever sniff a pro bowl, but it seems that those that "hate" him, completely disregard how completely misused he has been. It would be like hating on Patrick Kane for his lack of physical play if he were asked to switch to defenseman.
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Well that'd make sense of Shea wasn't 260 his draft year and years at DE... yet it was made clear and some sites do have more updated info about his weight. He lost 15-20 lbs last year in the of-season to transition from DE to LB. There's plenty of articles about it written during last offseason that can be found.
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Shea did make one of the best plays in the last few years.
I am willing to give him one more shot at the position that the experts say that he is more suited to play.
I am willing to give him one more shot at the position that the experts say that he is more suited to play.
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Given Urlacher was a converted safety and Shea was a edge rusher, your comparison makes no sense.
To your question, I don't think Shea is despised, I think his play is despised. Cuz... well, he sucks.
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From day one he was a 3-4 OLB. It was clear to everyone except Emery and Tucker. He will get his chance in this system and its up to him what he does.
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Tucker wasn't here day 1 of the Shea era. Lovie/Marinelli were.