Kris Bryant expectations

[Parade_Rain]

You guys should just get a room where you can use those Cubs and whitesox condoms on each other...while sparing the rest of us from your public displays of affection in the Cubs forum.

Edit--why is the troll even posting here?

You have some serious issues.

 

[JosMin]

He has the ceiling of being an MVP candidate for a dozen years. He has that kind of offensive skill. With Rizzo, Castro, Soler, Baez and Russell potentially around him.... that could get mind-blowing for Cubs fans. Can't wait to watch the progression unfold.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Here's a pretty good piece on Cubs Den about everything we've been talking about here.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/...is-job-but-so-is-theo-epstein/#comment-201197

 

[2323]

Here's a pretty good piece on Cubs Den about everything we've been talking about here.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/...is-job-but-so-is-theo-epstein/#comment-201197

"It is his not decision to..."

 

[Parade_Rain]

Here's a pretty good piece on Cubs Den about everything we've been talking about here.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/...is-job-but-so-is-theo-epstein/#comment-201197

I love this quote from Boras-

“He was the minor-league Player of the Year. Others who did not perform as well were called up. And that issue is even more relevant today.”

Others? Bryant can't play MIF/CF or switch hit. The one called up with the LB tattoo on his neck needed a healthy dose of reality. It's called player development, Scott. I can't wait until Boras is gone from the game.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

It's called player development, Scott. I can't wait until Boras is gone from the game.

I don't like Boras either, but he's got a point, and this goes beyond player development. I'm not sure Bryant has much more to learn at this point. His job is predicated on getting his clients big $$ as fast as he can. And who knows, maybe 9 games would have mattered. I'd much rather have Bryant than Olt for the 9. Olt flat out fucking sucks.

So we shouldn't be surprised he doesn't like sitting him in AAA for 9 games. On the cubs' side of things its a no brainer and a win win. You get control, and if he's really good you got time to extend before arb. ends and he becomes a FA.

But Epstein had to have known this in 2013 when he drafted him, and when they gave him the gigantic bonus. Boras will come with the headache. And even if he does leave or retire, someone will take his place.

If Bryant lives up to the hype--then worry about paying him 30 mil a year when you get there. Till then block out the noise.

Boras is a dick, but he's got a job to do too. Get the best $$$ for his clients.

 

[2323]

For all the money, the Ricketts have been sitting on, when they were still the most profitable team in baseball in spite of losing around 100 games, the Cubs should be more than willing to step up and pay a player should they be so lucky to have one. Thus extra year shouldn't even matter. The fact that it does is a sign the Cubs want to still be like the Rays, but of course with the revenue streams of the Cubs.

 

[SilenceS]

For all the money, the Ricketts have been sitting on, when they were still the most profitable team in baseball in spite of losing around 100 games, the Cubs should be more than willing to step up and pay a player should they be so lucky to have one. Thus extra year shouldn't even matter. The fact that it does is a sign the Cubs want to still be like the Rays, but of course with the revenue streams of the Cubs.

No, the extra year of control can allow you to sign another player for big money and get another player off the books to make sure Bryant gets paid. I swear people have no idea about business and how franchises can not just look at now. They have to look at grand scheme of things. The extra year of control can allow the Cubs to sign or re up a player that can win them a championship. This is a distinct possibility. Business isnt black and white. Boras only gives a **** about getting the most money as soon as possible. Dont blame him but that is his only thoughts.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I don't like Boras either, but he's got a point, and this goes beyond player development. I'm not sure Bryant has much more to learn at this point. His job is predicated on getting his clients big $$ as fast as he can. And who knows, maybe 9 games would have mattered. I'd much rather have Bryant than Olt for the 9. Olt flat out fucking sucks.

So we shouldn't be surprised he doesn't like sitting him in AAA for 9 games. On the cubs' side of things its a no brainer and a win win. You get control, and if he's really good you got time to extend before arb. ends and he becomes a FA.

But Epstein had to have known this in 2013 when he drafted him, and when they gave him the gigantic bonus. Boras will come with the headache. And even if he does leave or retire, someone will take his place.

If Bryant lives up to the hype--then worry about paying him 30 mil a year when you get there. Till then block out the noise.

Boras is a dick, but he's got a job to do too. Get the best $$$ for his clients.

I dont think Bryant has anything to learn at AAA either. This is what the CBA is. He would do the same thing on the other side. It is a business. Shame on him for attacking the Cubs. Attack the CBA. He is a clown show about this. The point about player development was that Baez needed to get the call up for a dose of humility regarding MLB. Alcantara is an intriguing player. Needed to get reps to know what to work on. Bryant? Not so much. I was sick of Boras years ago, but his angle regarding Bryant is misplaced. Yeah. It sucks. Fix it in the next CBA.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I heard Joe Sheehan talk about this yesterday and basically said that this issue is not fixable. His angle was wherever you set the line someone will find advantage and push it. Hard to disagree. Boras sounds a bit like kid stomping his feet here, but I really don't find all that much to hate about the guy. I've said many times that if I had a son or nephew that was a top prospect ask me who to talk to I would not hesitate in mentioning Boras. Dude get the job done. Bottom line is he's not wrong here, he's defending his client and the Cubs sure aren't wrong here because they're defending their business.

 

[brett05]

Yeáh sure, genius. This "it's not trolling because I say so" nonsense just isn't going to work. You try to do it with a velvet glove but it doesn't matter. You're not fooling anyone. So spare everyone your garbage denials.

At least you admit you can't be taught. I appreciate that

 

[brett05]

I love this quote from Boras-
Others? Bryant can't play MIF/CF or switch hit. The one called up with the LB tattoo on his neck needed a healthy dose of reality. It's called player development, Scott. I can't wait until Boras is gone from the game.

He ain't learning that in a minor league stint

 

[Parade_Rain]

He ain't learning that in a minor league stint

He "ain't learning" what?

 

[Shawon0Meter]

I'm in favor of what the Cubs are likely doing with Bryant..

I'm not sure if lying about the reasons why they do it is an MLBPA thing or if they really think they're fooling someone.

 

[brett05]

He "ain't learning" what?

Playing the OF

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I'm in favor of what the Cubs are likely doing with Bryant..

I'm not sure if lying about the reasons why they do it is an MLBPA thing or if they really think they're fooling someone.

Everyone understands what's going on. Bryant gets it, through Boras they're trying to disrupt it, Theo is trying is trying to deflect it and the MLBPA is making sure they protect their rule. It's a big game and everyone is playing their parts.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Playing the OF

Well not to be good at it of course, just to get some time in. There's still a real possibility that he ends up there at some point.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Playing the OF

I mentioned MIF/CF in my post. None of those 3 positions will Bryant play in MiLB or MLB.

 

[brett05]

I mentioned MIF/CF in my post. None of those 3 positions will Bryant play in MiLB or MLB.

If I attacked CF, then you'd say you meant the OF. You are being difficult me thinks.

 

[Parade_Rain]

If I attacked CF, then you'd say you meant the OF. You are being difficult me thinks.

Not really. I mentioned very specific positions and haven't deviated from that. Do you know what MIF is? Hint: it isn't a MILF where I completed the task.