Kruger Extended

[clonetrooper264]

Kruger brings a lot to this team in his role so I can't even be mad about a little extra salary cap craziness. Stan will make something work.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

The payment is just fine.
What I can see is Shaw getting moved. He's going to probably get close to a 3.5-4m bridge deal.
TT is staying here. He's a cap dream at 900K.

My guess is that Weiss will be considered at a cheap price for maybe a 1-2 year deal.
They'll lose Ladd, but maybe sign Fleischmann to a cheap 1 year or see which older UFAs want a shot at a cheap, one year stint to win a cup on the 19/81 line.

Free agent list:
http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents

David Booth could be that stop-gap cheap signing. He's at a 1yr deal with FLA for 1.1m, and if this team can't move #29, they may look his way.

 

[DMelt36]

Also saw a report recently that said the Canadian dollar was going up again, so that could help boost the cap a bit more than expected.

 

[HawkWriter]

Also saw a report recently that said the Canadian dollar was going up again, so that could help boost the cap a bit more than expected.

Oil is on a recovery path, which is why the Canadian dollar is starting to recover as well...but it has a ways to go. I'd expect a bump in cap but not a whole lot.

 

[HawkWriter]

The payment is just fine.
What I can see is Shaw getting moved. He's going to probably get close to a 3.5-4m bridge deal.
TT is staying here. He's a cap dream at 900K.

My guess is that Weiss will be considered at a cheap price for maybe a 1-2 year deal.
They'll lose Ladd, but maybe sign Fleischmann to a cheap 1 year or see which older UFAs want a shot at a cheap, one year stint to win a cup on the 19/81 line.

Free agent list:
http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents

David Booth could be that stop-gap cheap signing. He's at a 1yr deal with FLA for 1.1m, and if this team can't move #29, they may look his way.

Minor thing but but I believe (could be wrong) TT's actual cap hit is actually just under $1.5mil but he is still a great value as a top 9 player at that amount - no doubt about that.

The thing about Weise is that he is having a career year and has had 2 breakout years offensively. Most know him for the edge/sandpaper that he brings but have to think that with two offensive years in a row like he is having that he is going to want to cash in. Would love it if all goes well this year and he wants to come back but just have to wonder how many $3mil a year players the Blackhawks can truly sign at this point.

I'm not a big fan of anyone hanging out in the AHL at this point when it comes to next year. Do have a couple of guys in college (Motte and Schmaltz) that show some hope though, even though I'd be surprised if either can/will make the jump.

 

[MassHavoc]

Minor thing but but I believe (could be wrong) TT's actual cap hit is actually just under $1.5mil but he is still a great value as a top 9 player at that amount - no doubt about that.

The thing about Weise is that he is having a career year and has had 2 breakout years offensively. Most know him for the edge/sandpaper that he brings but have to think that with two offensive years in a row like he is having that he is going to want to cash in. Would love it if all goes well this year and he wants to come back but just have to wonder how many $3mil a year players the Blackhawks can truly sign at this point.

I'm not a big fan of anyone hanging out in the AHL at this point when it comes to next year. Do have a couple of guys in college (Motte and Schmaltz) that show some hope though, even though I'd be surprised if either can/will make the jump.

Don't know but not according to that site.

Birthdate: 1994-09-11
Age: 21
Position: C
Shoots: Left
Draft: 2012 1st (#18 overall) by CHI


$894,166
CAP HIT
$1,460,833
AAV
$925,000
CURRENT SALARY
2
YEARS REMAINING

RFA
EXPIRY STATUS

 

[Raskolnikov]

So Weise is gone. Ladd was never in the plan. Impossible.

How many years of control do we have on Gus/TVR/Svedstein?

There was a time when Hammer may be left out eventually....at this point I don't care how old he gets...we can't lose our top 3 defenders.

Priorities:

1. Panarin
2. Ladd
3. TT
4./5. Weise and Shaw for grit
6. The young defenders
7. Desjardins
8. Fleishman



To me the Kruger thing was probably a promise that made sense in October. He was out there, and we brought him back for nothing, but I would not be surprised if all the dollars they have been stashing, and prorating and juggling was not to figure out how to take care of Kruger on a promise all along.
Promise kept.
I misinterpreted it as putting aside Bread Man's bonus money so it doesn't penalize us further.

Next year we may have the Bickell monkey on our back, and a bonus fine on the cap, and certainly that is the Ladd money. But thats ok...the question is Ladd or 3-4 of the other guys on the list.

Timing wise, we have to get by next year with little flexibility, possibly pay to dump Bickell for a deadline wing, trade Shaw, survive the year with our chance at a cup being the progression of TT/Kruger and the greatness of our top shelf.

The following year, we can be back in business again as the cup favorite, and some of our young defenseman may be difference makers by then.

 

[ClydeLee]

Yeah he's on an ELC his cap hit is like 900k, he makes more money because of his 1st round pick signing bonus's but those aren't contract cap bonuses.

Gus and TVR are both signed next year (tvt might be even a year after that I think... he's actually cheaper than he is right now in his future 2 years)

Svedberg I think just signed a 1 year deal so he'll probably make a 200-400K more around 900k on his next year deal.

 

[MassHavoc]

So Weise is gone. Ladd was never in the plan. Impossible.

How many years of control do we have on Gus/TVR/Svedstein?

There was a time when Hammer may be left out eventually....at this point I don't care how old he gets...we can't lose our top 3 defenders.

Priorities:

1. Panarin
2. Ladd
3. TT
4./5. Weise and Shaw for grit
6. The young defenders
7. Desjardins
8. Fleishman



To me the Kruger thing was probably a promise that made sense in October. He was out there, and we brought him back for nothing, but I would not be surprised if all the dollars they have been stashing, and prorating and juggling was not to figure out how to take care of Kruger all along.

I misinterpreted it as putting aside Bread Man's bonus money so it doesn't penalize us further.

Next year we may have the Bickell monkey on our back, and a bonus fine on the cap, and certainly that is the Ladd money. But thats ok...the question is Ladd or 3-4 of the other guys on the list.

Timing wise, we have to get by next year with little flexibility, possibly pay to dump Bickell for a deadline wing, trade Shaw, survive the year with our chance at a cup being the progression of TT/Kruger and the greatness of our top shelf.

The following year, we can be back in business again as the cup favorite, and some of our young defenseman may be difference makers by then.

TT and Breadman in the long term plans for sure, but as for immediate priorities they are not. Their cheap as hell deals may be the only thing that keeps the team afloat next year.

 

[HawkWriter]

Don't know but not according to that site.

Birthdate: 1994-09-11
Age: 21
Position: C
Shoots: Left
Draft: 2012 1st (#18 overall) by CHI


$894,166
CAP HIT
$1,460,833
AAV
$925,000
CURRENT SALARY
2
YEARS REMAINING

RFA
EXPIRY STATUS

Same site has Panarin's cap hit at $812k...but that certainly isn't the case after all his bonuses. Blackhawks will likely have to defer a large chunk of that cap hit (from the bonuses) to next year. Panarin's cap hit is likely to come closer to $3 - 3.5mil. There may be a difference in Schedule A to Schedule B bonuses though which I'd have to refresh my memory on.

 

[ClydeLee]

Panarin was given legit bonus's to hit to sign.

Most 1st round picks, even guys like Toews get really rare bonus's though like his conn smythe bonus. TT is getting any score top 10 or play X games this year bonus like Panarin has going for him.

Panarin got the A which I think playing games was apart of and it's like another 925K to his contract but the big one is if he finishes top 10 in points, goals, or assists out of all forwards. And he's currently like 9th in points. If he gets that it's another 1.75 I think on his hit.

 

[HawkWriter]

Panarin was given legit bonus's to hit to sign.

Most 1st round picks, even guys like Toews get really rare bonus's though like his conn smythe bonus. TT is getting any score top 10 or play X games this year bonus like Panarin has going for him.

Panarin got the A which I think playing games was apart of and it's like another 925K to his contract but the big one is if he finishes top 10 in points, goals, or assists out of all forwards. And he's currently like 9th in points. If he gets that it's another 1.75 I think on his hit.

I wouldn't say Panarin was given "legit" or easy bonuses at all just to sign. If you take a look at the bonuses (mainly Schedule B), many people thought they would be hard to hit and really him being one hell of a player is the reason why he is going to hit most of them. Not really easy ones.

"$225,000 in Games Played bonuses in 2015-16. Games Played bonuses: $25,000 for 5 GP, $200,000 for 10 GP. $850,000 Schedule A bonuses, $1,725,000 in Schedule B bonuses in both 2015-16 and 2016-17. Schedule A bonuses (max $850,000): $212,500 for any of the following achievements - top 6 forward on team in ice time (total or average, min 42GP), 20 goals, 35 assists, 60 points, top 3 forward on team in +/- (min 42GP), 0.73 points per game (min 42GP), All Rookie team, All Star game, All Star game MVP. Schedule B bonuses (max $1,725,000): $1,725,000 for any of the following achievements - top 10 forward in the league in goals/assists/points/points per game (min 42GP), top 5 in league in Hart/Selke/Richard voting, NHL First or Second team all star, Conn Smythe"

 

[Milky]

God we need Kruges backs. Our PK and overall D is shit right now.


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[The Hawk]

The payment is just fine.
What I can see is Shaw getting moved. He's going to probably get close to a 3.5-4m bridge deal.
TT is staying here. He's a cap dream at 900K.

My guess is that Weiss will be considered at a cheap price for maybe a 1-2 year deal.
They'll lose Ladd, but maybe sign Fleischmann to a cheap 1 year or see which older UFAs want a shot at a cheap, one year stint to win a cup on the 19/81 line.

Free agent list:
http://www.generalfanager.com/freeagents

David Booth could be that stop-gap cheap signing. He's at a 1yr deal with FLA for 1.1m, and if this team can't move #29, they may look his way.

THey need to keep Shaw. He means a lot to this team when he is on the ice and I think probably in the locker room also. He never quits.

 

[DMelt36]

THey need to keep Shaw. He means a lot to this team when he is on the ice and I think probably in the locker room also. He never quits.

Depends heavily on salary. Kruger's deal means you can't spend much more on another 4th liner than the Hawks already will be next year.

Shaw is good but far from irreplaceable.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

THey need to keep Shaw. He means a lot to this team when he is on the ice and I think probably in the locker room also. He never quits.

You have to find salary for players, and with the cap probably not going up by much, it puts Shaw into the "expendable" category.
Moving Bickell is still an issue, plus the Hawks have already expressed publicly that Panarin is getting an extension.
I like Shaw at 2 million. He's going to get a healthy raise with his resume.

 

[The Hawk]

Depends heavily on salary. Kruger's deal means you can't spend much more on another 4th liner than the Hawks already will be next year.

Shaw is good but far from irreplaceable.

Then find the money somewhere else. They would play hell trying to find the energy and grit that Shaw bring every night.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Sanpaper!!!

 

[DMelt36]

Then find the money somewhere else. They would play hell trying to find the energy and grit that Shaw bring every night.

Good luck with that.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Maybe they know something we don't like Hossa planning to retire?