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Your reply doesn't even make sense. I was just pointing out that most people who were sceptical of moving him to tackle knew he played it in college and sucked at it. Most of you who were jerking off over moving Long to Tackle were the same ones who hated us picking Long but LOVED Bostic...

But you are welcome.

Sincerely Uncle Phil ...

Well if there is anyone out there who has a 100 percent track record of predicting who will pan out and who won't in the NFL then they would be the all-time-best General Manager in the NFL. People make predictions about games, players, teams and sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong. I guess as long as that happens there will be folks who show up to point out the mistakes. Congratulations, I guess.

Whatever people predicted about Long, I'm excited about his future.
 

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The people in favor of him moving to T knew that he had the size, strength, and athleticism to do it, and also knew that Emery even said that his future could be at tackle. The only knock was inexperience, but he had all the measurables for a tackle. And I don't know about your second statement about Bostic, but it's a non-sequitur, so whatever.

B.S...
Long hasn't shown that he could play Tackle until he finally got in there and started playing the position. The only similarities between the two positions are they are both on the offensive line. The only people who would have known if he could were the coaches who actually got to see him play it in practice. So sitting here saying he has the " measurable " is complete B.S. All any of us, who were not guessing, had to judge Long at the Tackle position was his time playing it in college... And he was a terrible back up LT.
 

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Well if there is anyone out there who has a 100 percent track record of predicting who will pan out and who won't in the NFL then they would be the all-time-best General Manager in the NFL. People make predictions about games, players, teams and sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong. I guess as long as that happens there will be folks who show up to point out the mistakes. Congratulations, I guess.

Whatever people predicted about Long, I'm excited about his future.
You are speaking to some one who is 100%, at least on these forums...
But to be fair I simply keep my mouth shut when I am unsure about a player.

And the reason why I brought up Bostic was because of the jab thrown at me by some one who use to love Bostic ...
 

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B.S...
Long hasn't shown that he could play Tackle until he finally got in there and started playing the position. The only similarities between the two positions are they are both on the offensive line. The only people who would have known if he could were the coaches who actually got to see him play it in practice. So sitting here saying he has the " measurable " is complete B.S. All any of us, who were not guessing, had to judge Long at the Tackle position was his time playing it in college... And he was a terrible back up LT.

Yes, we were all guessing about Long's future prospects at tackle. But what I'm saying is that if you just look at his measurables, i.e., his size, strength, athleticism, then you can make an educated guess about his viability at tackle. You don't need to look at the extremely small sample size of his college games at tackle to make a prediction about his NFL future at tackle. Also, Emery himself said on draft day that he had a future at tackle.
 

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Once the ball is snapped, he has his father's and brothers nastiness. Couple that with the fact that he is a freakish athlete (those genes again), I wouldnt be surprised if he could play DE at a high level.
 

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Kyle just threw the DE to the ground on a few plays towards the end of the game. Very Impressive. Total Beast.
 

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I am glad to see that one of the most important things about today was who was right or not about Long playing RT. Just kind of warms my heart. John Lynch said on the broadcast the way he handled Houston and with his athleticism that he should be able to play LT. I 100% agree with Lynch but for the record its more important for the team than whether I am right or not.
 

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I was/am definitely in the if it isn't broke don't fix it camp, but it looks like moving Long is no problem. Still, any Bears fan who gets nervous as shit when we talk about moving guys to new positions has plenty of justification... it often goes poorly and we have ruined more than one player/position this way.
 

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Don't move him to left until after he signs his new deal.
 

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B.S...
Long hasn't shown that he could play Tackle until he finally got in there and started playing the position. The only similarities between the two positions are they are both on the offensive line. The only people who would have known if he could were the coaches who actually got to see him play it in practice. So sitting here saying he has the " measurable " is complete B.S. All any of us, who were not guessing, had to judge Long at the Tackle position was his time playing it in college... And he was a terrible back up LT.

So basically, you are just pissed that you was wrong about Long and are now realizing that you are not as football smart as you thought you was. Got it.
 

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Shout out to those who said you can't just move Long to OT and that you would be weakening 2 spots.

Where are those posters now? They seem silent on the subject. I have only seen a couple of them man up and take their medicine (AKA admit being wrong).
 

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Yes, we were all guessing about Long's future prospects at tackle. But what I'm saying is that if you just look at his measurables, i.e., his size, strength, athleticism, then you can make an educated guess about his viability at tackle. You don't need to look at the extremely small sample size of his college games at tackle to make a prediction about his NFL future at tackle. Also, Emery himself said on draft day that he had a future at tackle.

I actually agree with you for the most part but you also don't want to ignore what he did in college either. That's all any of us really had to evaluate him and the move to RT.

As for his measurables... You could say that about almost every one on the offensive line. They are all big , fast, strong and athletic. They all have the measurables to be a tackle but only a handful of offensive line men can play tackle. That's why they get the big contracts. It's a much harder position to play and is really very different from a guard.
 

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So basically, you are just pissed that you was wrong about Long and are now realizing that you are not as football smart as you thought you was. Got it.

I wasn't wrong about Long because I never really took a side. I was of the opinion that if it isn't broke don't fix it but I was never against long moving to either tackle position if he proved he could play it... And who knows, maybe he did prove it to Fox.
 

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I wasn't wrong about Long because I never really took a side. I was of the opinion that if it isn't broke don't fix it but I was never against long moving to either tackle position if he proved he could play it... And who knows, maybe he did prove it to Fox.

You sure sound salty about it now.
 

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Yes, we were all guessing about Long's future prospects at tackle. But what I'm saying is that if you just look at his measurables, i.e., his size, strength, athleticism, then you can make an educated guess about his viability at tackle. You don't need to look at the extremely small sample size of his college games at tackle to make a prediction about his NFL future at tackle. Also, Emery himself said on draft day that he had a future at tackle.

I agree with this. Almost every ex player I have listened to talking about Long and his moving to RT or eventually LT has been a near consensus that he should become a tackle sooner rather than later. That is would benefit the Bears not only by upgrading the tackle but also that it is easier to plug in the guard. That's apparently why Tackle's make the big money on the O-line.
 

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I actually agree with you for the most part but you also don't want to ignore what he did in college either. That's all any of us really had to evaluate him and the move to RT.

As for his measurables... You could say that about almost every one on the offensive line. They are all big , fast, strong and athletic. They all have the measurables to be a tackle but only a handful of offensive line men can play tackle. That's why they get the big contracts. It's a much harder position to play and is really very different from a guard.

I disagree with a lot of what you said in this thread but you're a pretty good poster from what I can tell. That's why these forums are here is to debate our opinions and hopefully keep it as cordial as possible. So thank you for keeping it civil.

On another note, regardless of who thought Long should be moved or not. Are there any posters that want the Bears to fail at RG to prove a point? I highly doubt anyone of us would, which in the end means we are all rooting for the same thing. Minus the trolls who come here to rile up other posters of course but who cares what they think at the end of the day.
 

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The fact people doubted Kyle Long could play OT is pure stupidity. Long is a beast and I can't wait until he gets paid and we lock him for a long time.


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