Lake found on Mars

[nc0gnet0]

I'm sure this has been answered online somewhere, but is there a way for us to try and start life on Mars? Like start with plants and bacteria, etc.?

terraform mars? You would need to start with the atmosphere.

 

[modo]

I'm sure this has been answered online somewhere, but is there a way for us to try and start life on Mars? Like start with plants and bacteria, etc.?

We could. The soil would have to be washed to remove perchlorates.

 

[modo]

But we do know it did start, ergo it is possible. Maybe even probable, given the near infinite vastness of the cosmos.

sure it happened once, but that only gives us a framework of 1 planet in the entire known Universe.....you could plug that into an equation but without knowing the framework of how life starts you could still wind up with a near 100% chance or even a chance that is less than 1 planet.

As I said we could potentially be an exception to the chances of life......depending how life is formed it may even be a science miracle we exist.


There are quantum tunneling probabilities that are so remote that technically it is possible to happen but the odds of it happening are so rare that the Universe would have to exist for hundreds of billions of years for it to actually have a realistic chance of happening.

There are other quantum tunneling events that happen often enough to cause the Sun and other stars to actually work. Without quantum tunneling the Universe would not exist as we understand it.


food for thought

 

[Enasic]

Food for thought...modo doesn’t want life to exist anywhere and will fight tooth and nail when confronted with basic equations that only prove the chance of that, is absurdly small...it doesn’t even rule out there may not be life.

Anyway, I think most logical, rational people could assume given the vastness and infinite possibilities of the universe that we are not alone. But that’s just my opinion. I don’t need science to shove the proverbial cake in my face before I know it’s my birthday.

 

[modo]

Food for thought...modo doesn’t want life to exist anywhere and will fight tooth and nail when confronted with basic equations that only prove the chance of that, is absurdly small...it doesn’t even rule out there may not be life.

Anyway, I think most logical, rational people could assume given the vastness and infinite possibilities of the universe that we are not alone. But that’s just my opinion. I don’t need science to shove the proverbial cake in my face before I know it’s my birthday.

this statement shows me you really haven't digested what I wrote or that you think I am trying push some divine agenda.


I have said this many times:

"If we do find it, we may come to understand that the creation of life process is a fairly common experience or something so rare that it may be lucky that it happened even once in the visible Universe."

I'm not sure why you decided to write what what you did

 

[airtime143]

How can anyone believe the world is 6K years old when Dinosaurs went extinct... EXTINCT (meaning thrived for who knows how long on this planet)! 65 million years ago

one of my favorite little dinosaur factoids is this-
There is less time between our walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth than the time between the stegosaurus walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth.

 

[modo]

one of my favorite little dinosaur factoids is this-
There is less time between our walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth than the time between the stegosaurus walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth.

the caveman movies totally lied to me

 

[Tater]

https://patch.com/illinois/algonqui...ium=email&utm_term=weather&utm_campaign=alert

Mars And Earth At Opposition: How To See It In Illinois

The crimson orb has been bright all month, but will be especially so Friday evening. Here's how to see it in Illinois.

By Shannon Antinori, Patch National Staff | Jul 27, 2018 11:19 am ET

ILLINOIS — There's so much going on in the heavens right now that it's hard to know what to focus on, but for now, we suggest you focus on Mars, the red dot you may have been seeing dancing in the nighttime sky. It's becoming brighter by the night and reaches opposition with the Earth on Friday. The weather forecast in Illinois is favorable for viewing.

Friday night's forecast calls for mostly clear skies and a high in the upper 60s.

As NASA explains it: "During opposition, Mars and the sun are on directly opposite sides of Earth. From our perspective on our spinning world, Mars rises in the east just as the sun sets in the west. Then, after staying up in the sky the entire night, Mars sets in the west just as the sun rises in the east. Since Mars and the sun appear on opposite sides of the sky, we say that Mars is in 'opposition.' If Earth and Mars followed perfectly circular orbits, opposition would be as close as the two planets could get."
Mars and Earth are at opposition about once every two years, but this is an extra-special year because Mars is at perihelion, or its closest, which occurs only 15 or so years. The last time Mars was this close was in 2003.

Because both the Earth and Mars have elliptical orbits, opposition and the red planet's closest approach to ours doesn't always occur at the same time. Mars will be closest to Earth around 4 a.m. on Tuesday, July 31, according to EarthSky.org.
Mars moves slower, taking about two Earth years for a trip around the sun, but if they orbited in a perfect circular pattern, opposition would occur every year.
The brilliant crimson orb has been visible since May, but it will be brighter during opposition than when it makes its closest approach. That's because of the angle at which sunlight hits it.
In 2003 when Mars last came this close to Earth, a meme circled the internet that said it would be as big as the moon, according to Space.com. It's likely to resurface, but just ignore it. The planet will be big, bright and beautiful, but keep in mind that Mars is half the size of Earth.
SEE ALSO: 2018 Guide To Meteor Showers, Other Sky Shows
You won't need special equipment like a telescope or binoculars to see it. Just look up and be dazzled. And if you miss it, Mars will continue to be bright for about a month after opposition.
The Delta Aquarids meteor shower also peaks overnight Friday and Saturday. Consider it a dress rehearsal for the more reliable Perseid meteor shower, a typically prolific sky show that runs through Aug. 24, peaking overnight on Aug. 12-13.
That means you may see meteors any time you look up in the night sky anytime over the next several weeks.
Image credit: NASA, ESA, the Hubble Heritage Team (STScI/AURA), J. Bell (ASU), and M. Wolff (Space Science Institute)

 

[Warden of the Northeast]

one of my favorite little dinosaur factoids is this-
There is less time between our walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth than the time between the stegosaurus walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth.

Love it!

 

[Ares]

terraform mars? You would need to start with the atmosphere.

I love the hypotheticals about detonating nuclear weapons at the poles to melt Mars' ice caps and create an atmosphere.

It just sounds like 13 year old boys coming up with a terraforming plan lol

 

[LordKOTL]

terraform mars? You would need to start with the atmosphere.

To my knowledge, getting Mars a magnetic field would have to be 1st. Without that whatever atmosphere we'd try to create would be lost to the solar wind. There are some interesting hypothetical of how to do this--I mean aside from restarting Mars' geodynamo which is wholly unfeasible. But, even something as simple as a 1 tesla magnetic dipole at Mars' L1 larange point could be enough for a magnetosheild that could prevent solar wind.

one of my favorite little dinosaur factoids is this-
There is less time between our walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth than the time between the stegosaurus walking the earth and the T-Rex walking the earth.

Yep. One of mine, too!

 

[nc0gnet0]

To my knowledge, getting Mars a magnetic field would have to be 1st. Without that whatever atmosphere we'd try to create would be lost to the solar wind. There are some interesting hypothetical of how to do this--I mean aside from restarting Mars' geodynamo which is wholly unfeasible. But, even something as simple as a 1 tesla magnetic dipole at Mars' L1 larange point could be enough for a magnetosheild that could prevent solar wind.



Yep. One of mine, too!

I knew this, but considered creating the magnetic poles part of the creation of the atmosphere.............

 

[LordKOTL]

I knew this, but considered creating the magnetic poles part of the creation of the atmosphere.............

Gotcha

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[modo]

 

[number51]

This thread has bounced back a bit, but still not as entertaining as guys taking "science time with Brett" seriously.

 

[remydat]

sure it happened once, but that only gives us a framework of 1 planet in the entire known Universe.....you could plug that into an equation but without knowing the framework of how life starts you could still wind up with a near 100% chance or even a chance that is less than 1 planet.

As I said we could potentially be an exception to the chances of life......depending how life is formed it may even be a science miracle we exist.


There are quantum tunneling probabilities that are so remote that technically it is possible to happen but the odds of it happening are so rare that the Universe would have to exist for hundreds of billions of years for it to actually have a realistic chance of happening.

There are other quantum tunneling events that happen often enough to cause the Sun and other stars to actually work. Without quantum tunneling the Universe would not exist as we understand it.


food for thought

Entire known universe is a bit of a misnomer when the vast majority of matter in the universe is unknown since we can't detect it.

Not only is the chance we are alone mathematically small, I know of no other phenomena in the universe that occurs just once.

 

[Enasic]

The funny this is....even if "we found it" there still would be people who wouldn't believe it. What would "finding" it entail? Bringing it back to Earth and putting it in a museum? Taking pictures? Having super geniuses we don't know tell us "Hey, we found it!" That could easily all be faked and you would have to imagine whatever they "found" would be super off limits to mostly anyone who could even begin to refute it. Some already think there's sizeable evidence that we have been contacted. How could we know we're not being visited now? Because they don't announce themselves or hold out banners? If they were that super intelligent, and could figure out a way to travel the cosmos, I think they could figure out how to go under the radar. It would be very much like humans sneaking into their bedroom and not getting the attention of the Iguana in the tank. Am I saying that's the case? No. But it's so hard to potentially prove something like that. For one, because if they're coming down and visiting but didn't want us to know about it, we wouldn't know. And second, if we were to find life out there in the universe, we would basically be taking the governments word on it...because the odds they bring back an alien species to Earth would be extremely small.

 

[Monster]

If they have the ability to come here I doubt they would worry about hiding. We don’t hide from Apes we study in the wild... or ants for that matter. I’m not sure we want contact if they are smart enough to travel here... we assume because they are smart they are kind. For all we know we are just bright enough to be slave labor. Then again I don’t know shit... I just think they could be like the Necromongers as easily as ET.

 

[Xuder O'Clam]

Or they could be well advanced technologically, but have no concept of war, truth, deception, fear, anger, jealousy, contempt, kindness, love, etc. You know, human nature.

 

[Ares]

Or they could be well advanced technologically, but have no concept of war, truth, deception, fear, anger, jealousy, contempt, kindness, love, etc. You know, human nature.

Earth is going to deport Canada to Mars if you don't behave.