Lamarr Houston blows knee celebrating a sack down 30

[Toast88]

I honestly think that if we get torched by the Packers again, he will be gone by Monday.

Hahaha, good one. I needed a laugh.

 

[Run the ball]

Much appreciated.

I think if you look at points allowed and yards allowed through week 5, you would see it differently.

As far as the turnovers, I agree, we were definitely causing mistakes by the other teams and forcing turnovers.

In that regard, do you think Tucker preaches and teaches this to a level that Marinelli (and vets) do?

I think Tucker and his assistants are really struggling with finding solutions and are being downright stubborn to a Lovie level by not at the very least trying something different. I'm not sure if that's the fault of the HC who won't approve such a radical attempt to find a solution?? Either way, this model is broken and needs an overhaul!

As for Marinelli and such, those guys have shown that if you give them an offense that can control the clock and protect the D, they'll pay you back handsomely!!

I'd love to have awnsers for all, however I don't, only my personal speculation.

 

[bears26]

Wow, how embarassing . Seeing it for the first time as I had to walk away from the blowout. So embarassing, even worse than Tulloch's injury. Might be the most embarassing injury of all time.. The fans just laughed at him when he went back to the ground. "They are all going to laugh at you"

 

[dabears70]

Tulloch got hurt doing the discount double check, but his team suffered, the Bears will benefit.

So his team that's 6-2 and one of the better defenses in the league suffered?? Shaking my head.

 

[dabears70]

Comedy or tragedy take your pick. Not much difference.

Not much difference in comedy and tragedy?? Ok.

 

[dabears70]

He doesn't even seem embarrassed by it.

Have you spoken to him or something cause all i've seen is him say that he should not have been celebrating a sack while the Bears were losing that bad??

 

[dabears70]

He hasn't? People need to stop looking at just one section of the stat line, and as Ommy used to say week in and week out on the CMB stop following the fucking ball and watch the player.

People don't understand that he was brought here to stop the run and every game but our first game against Buffalo we have been really good against the run.

 

[Ares]

Houston tears his ACL and gets to sit out the remainder of this shitshow defense while still getting paid.... Lamarr you cheeky ****

 

[Mongo_76]

I think Tucker and his assistants are really struggling with finding solutions and are being downright stubborn to a Lovie level by not at the very least trying something different. I'm not sure if that's the fault of the HC who won't approve such a radical attempt to find a solution?? Either way, this model is broken and needs an overhaul!

As for Marinelli and such, those guys have shown that if you give them an offense that can control the clock and protect the D, they'll pay you back handsomely!!

I'd love to have awnsers for all, however I don't, only my personal speculation.

But he actually has tried something different.

I know people want to take away credit from the defense in the Atlanta game by saying Atlanta had a bad Oline. And don't get me wrong, they did. But that same "bad line" had held teams to 6 QB sacks total leading up to our game.

Their line is not what impacted that game.


Tucker had 3 linebackers starting that weren't even supposed to be on rosters at the beginning of the season. So, instead of teaching them his fucked up version of 2-gap responsibility, he lined them and his DT's in one-gap and just let them attack.

Allen and Houston were lining up at the 5 and 6. Ratliff played the 3-technique. Paea played the undertackle. In the back-field, we played a 2-short zone to begin the game and then moved the safeties back to a 2-deep when the Falcons abandoned the run and went to to intermediate routes. It was like shooting fish in a barrell for our safeties. It wasn't fancy. It was honestly, just basic 4-3 defense.

You watched them mug the line, blitz from all angles, and just... attack.



And it worked.


So what does he do against the Dolphins and Patriots?


4-3 2-gap with man coverage in the slot and a soft deep zone. Fucking Special person. Receivers hit the soft spots and Gronk abused the man-coverage in the seams.

Brady sat back there and dissected us.

 

[ShiftyDevil]

This has been a very dumb season.

 

[The Hawk]

Two games in a row where the opposing quarterback has probably their best completion percentage in their career. IF that isn't an indictment on Tucker and company, I donot know what is.

 

[Run the ball]

But he actually has tried something different.

I know people want to take away credit from the defense in the Atlanta game by saying Atlanta had a bad Oline. And don't get me wrong, they did. But that same "bad line" had held teams to 6 QB sacks total leading up to our game.

Their line is not what impacted that game.


Tucker had 3 linebackers starting that weren't even supposed to be on rosters at the beginning of the season. So, instead of teaching them his fucked up version of 2-gap responsibility, he lined them and his DT's in one-gap and just let them attack.

Allen and Houston were lining up at the 5 and 6. Ratliff played the 3-technique. Paea played the undertackle. In the back-field, we played a 2-short zone to begin the game and then moved the safeties back to a 2-deep when the Falcons abandoned the run and went to to intermediate routes. It was like shooting fish in a barrell for our safeties. It wasn't fancy. It was honestly, just basic 4-3 defense.

You watched them mug the line, blitz from all angles, and just... attack.



And it worked.


So what does he do against the Dolphins and Patriots?


4-3 2-gap with man coverage in the slot and a soft deep zone. Fucking Special person. Receivers hit the soft spots and Gronk abused the man-coverage in the seams.

Brady sat back there and dissected us.

I didn't really notice much of that, but to not admit that Carimi was a turn style and got his QB killed all game long is overlooking and digging too deep, IMO.

Get pressure and the D looks better, to me it's that simple. Now we can do X's and O's about gap this and gap that but the reality is we got pressure that game and it made our D look much better than it is. We need more of that going forward to even have a chance of saving this season.


Again, I Iove your analysis and I am just discussing this in simpler terms.

 

[Twigg4075]

Two games in a row where the opposing quarterback has probably their best completion percentage in their career. IF that isn't an indictment on Tucker and company, I donot know what is.

And one of those QBs was Tannehil. Ryan Fucking Tannehil.

 

[bearmick]

now its a garbage signing? windy you are a fraud as a 'respected, analytical football guy who even played before'. Drop the pretense, cause you are a meatball.

He's absolutely right. I told you in the offseason that Houston was a terrible signing. So did Desbro. I never understood why so many people were so excited about paying $35 million for an average DE with absolutely nothing special in terms of puss rushing skills and who has never gotten to the QB remotely consistently. You don't pay $35 million to a decent run stopping DE who gives you little else, which is what Houston is and always has been. It was never, ever a good signing.

 

[Run the ball]

Oh I disagree, do you miss getting gashed at over 5 yards a clip on the ground? That had to be addressed during the offseason and it was successfully done. We just had and still have too many holes to fill. It would also help if our offense could actually make something happen early in games and not get that D behind the 8 ball early and often.

 

[onebud34]

Two games in a row where the opposing quarterback has probably their best completion percentage in their career. IF that isn't an indictment on Tucker and company, I donot know what is.

Well...it is Brady...and as bad as they looked it wasn't the best completion percentage of his career. I think he had a 90% in the playoffs one year.

Probably top 5 though

 

[bearmick]

I think Houston has done what he was signed to do. People looking at that stat line and the sack column are going to be much disappoint in regards to Houston, that's not his bag and never has been.

On saying that, celebrating like a cockend while down 30, no, you just don't do that.

It's not just about stats. He hasn't been effective in relation to his contract.

And as much as I realize that it's the trendy thing to ignore stats and looking at "other things", because it creates a juxtaposition with people who only talk stats and makes people think they sound like they understand football better, the fact is that sacks ARE important. Or at least getting to the QB fairly regularly. Houston doesn't.

 

[Jack Lame]

I'm glad he got hurt. Karma for a shitty player and assbag.

 

[bearmick]

Oh I disagree, do you miss getting gashed at over 5 yards a clip on the ground?

A healthy Ratliff, Paea playing well and all around soild play from the interior of the line is the #1 reason for the improved run defense, imo. Houston has helped too, but he's overpaid for what he gives you.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

Whether you liked houston or not I think it's pretty clear that the team would have been better off with paying someone else less money at that position and using the extra to get a linebacker that isn't a disgrace like DJ, Shea and Briggs.